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[Archereon]

 I don't get why so many players list Wynne as one of their least favorite characters...

Sure she lectures you a lot if your a renegade (using ME alignments here for lack of a better word, seeing as the PC of Dragon age can never really be evil.) character, but for White Knight characters (like most of mine), Wynne can be one of the nicest characters in the game.

[Ramante]

Romance Zevran and wait till she talks to you about it, trust me after that you want to kill her.

Play as a mage and do her personal quest, it makes no sense.

Take her to the Guardian (urn quest) while playing a CE, her comment is absolutely ridiculous.



That's all I can think of, for now.

[Addai]

Check out the Abominable Wynne thread, we have lots to say.

[Cuddlezarro]

we have an entire topic dedicated to hating on the old cow and you dont have to be a complete jerk to her either to get on her bad side either

[casedawgz]

Does it have Gryphons in it?

[Cuddlezarro]

casedawgz wrote...

Does it have Gryphons in it?

[Reaverwind]

Wardens are not "white knights". Wynne is over the top, even for less pragmatic wardens.

[errant_knight]

Archereon wrote...

 I don't get why so many players list Wynne as one of their least favorite characters...

Sure she lectures you a lot if your a renegade (using ME alignments here for lack of a better word, seeing as the PC of Dragon age can never really be evil.) character, but for White Knight characters (like most of mine), Wynne can be one of the nicest characters in the game.

Agreed, the way I play, Wynne is awesome, and if you build up her offensive skills properly, she can end up being more versatile than Morrigan. I love using Wynne.
And she's not wrong about your romances. At first, I didn't see why she'd object if the object of your affections wasn't another grey warden and potential king, but the dangers still apply. If you put your romance first, no matter who you're romancing, you end up risking not only Fereldan, but Thedas as a whole. Which I always do, thus proving her entirely correct.

Wardens can be played good, evil, or anywhere in between, and your choices will have an effect on the world at large. She's not saying anything that isn't so, no matter how much a PC might not want to hear that.

One warden might take the 'at all costs' ethos to heart, another might look for another path. Neither is wrong. It's a matter of personal gameplay. Her point of view is that these things need to be taken into account. My PC agrees with her, although it can be uncomfortable when human failing takes her off that path.

Modifié par errant_knight, 04 mars 2010 - 08:00 .

[Schwinni]

Ramante wrote...

Romance Zevran and wait till she talks to you about it, trust me after that you want to kill her.
Play as a mage and do her personal quest, it makes no sense.
Take her to the Guardian (urn quest) while playing a CE, her comment is absolutely ridiculous.

That's all I can think of, for now.

I can: like I already said, in RtO she offers sex to Alistair although my female PC has a relationship (which Wynne of course knows about) with him.

[errant_knight]

Schwinni wrote...

Ramante wrote...

Romance Zevran and wait till she talks to you about it, trust me after that you want to kill her.
Play as a mage and do her personal quest, it makes no sense.
Take her to the Guardian (urn quest) while playing a CE, her comment is absolutely ridiculous.

That's all I can think of, for now.

I can: like I already said, in RtO she offers sex to Alistair although my female PC has a relationship (which Wynne of course knows about) with him.

Yes, because she was entirely serious about that. She also genuinely didn't think he knew where babies come from, and any number of other off the cuff remarks. Wynne is old so she couldn't possibly have a sense of humor.

[Cuddlezarro]

that banter was disturbing and wrong for where you was at and what you was doing



Im sorry but it was completely inappropriate at the time

[Herr Uhl]

errant_knight wrote...

Yes, because she was entirely serious about that. She also genuinely didn't think he knew where babies come from, and any number of other off the cuff remarks. Wynne is old so she couldn't possibly have a sense of humor.

Hush, people from abominable Wynne thread are on the prowl.

I don't get it either. It's mostly due to her being set in her ways, she is the second oldest party-member after all. And of course her advising you not to have relationships.

[ejoslin]

Archereon wrote...

 I don't get why so many players list Wynne as one of their least favorite characters...

Sure she lectures you a lot if your a renegade (using ME alignments here for lack of a better word, seeing as the PC of Dragon age can never really be evil.) character, but for White Knight characters (like most of mine), Wynne can be one of the nicest characters in the game.

No, she just lectures.  She has zero faith that the Warden will live up to the picture Wynne has in her mind how Wardens are supposed to behave.  And her morals?  Well, she says the right thing but . ..  Try this.  Go to the Slavers with her, get to the point where Caladrius is nearly dead and wants to make a deal with you.  Wynne will give her opinion on the matter.  Tell her to keep her opinions to herself.  Do exactly what she agrees with.  Watch her disapprove for -18 anyway.

She worries more about being viewed as a wise counselor than you actually following her advice.  -18 approval for telling her to be quiet during an obviously tense moment.

[Archereon]

Wait, who's the ol-...

Shale?


And at the "wardens are not white knights" person: generally no, but you can play yours as one.

Modifié par Archereon, 04 mars 2010 - 08:11 .

[Schwinni]

No, she isn't joking. She really picks on Alistair heavily. This is disgusting for Emilia.

[Archereon]

ejoslin wrote...

Archereon wrote...

 I don't get why so many players list Wynne as one of their least favorite characters...

Sure she lectures you a lot if your a renegade (using ME alignments here for lack of a better word, seeing as the PC of Dragon age can never really be evil.) character, but for White Knight characters (like most of mine), Wynne can be one of the nicest characters in the game.

No, she just lectures.  She has zero faith that the Warden will live up to the picture Wynne has in her mind how Wardens are supposed to behave.  And her morals?  Well, she says the right thing but . ..  Try this.  Go to the Slavers with her, get to the point where Caladrius is nearly dead and wants to make a deal with you.  Wynne will give her opinion on the matter.  Tell her to keep her opinions to herself.  Do exactly what she agrees with.  Watch her disapprove for -18 anyway.

She worries more about being viewed as a wise counselor than you actually following her advice.  -18 approval for telling her to be quiet during an obviously tense moment.

...What game are you playing, I have a Warden on which her only lecture is the romance lecture, which she apologizes for later when you complete the romance.  

[ejoslin]

Archereon wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Archereon wrote...

 I don't get why so many players list Wynne as one of their least favorite characters...

Sure she lectures you a lot if your a renegade (using ME alignments here for lack of a better word, seeing as the PC of Dragon age can never really be evil.) character, but for White Knight characters (like most of mine), Wynne can be one of the nicest characters in the game.

No, she just lectures.  She has zero faith that the Warden will live up to the picture Wynne has in her mind how Wardens are supposed to behave.  And her morals?  Well, she says the right thing but . ..  Try this.  Go to the Slavers with her, get to the point where Caladrius is nearly dead and wants to make a deal with you.  Wynne will give her opinion on the matter.  Tell her to keep her opinions to herself.  Do exactly what she agrees with.  Watch her disapprove for -18 anyway.

She worries more about being viewed as a wise counselor than you actually following her advice.  -18 approval for telling her to be quiet during an obviously tense moment.

...What game are you playing, I have a Warden on which her only lecture is the romance lecture, which she apologizes for later when you complete the romance.  

Did you read the rest of my post?  And if you want to just stick with the romance, given how LATE the Zevran romance turns to love (which is actually what triggers the apology), that's a long time to stay judgemental.  Especially with how early it can switch to adore.

[goofygoff]

The timing of the RtO dialogue between Wynne and Alistair did make me go, whaaa..? But I had no problem with the content itself. In fact, I lol'd and was like, "Go, Wynne!" Yes, even though I was romancing him at the time.



It just seemed like she was getting even with him for calling her old, by ribbing him and making him uncomfortable. I seriously doubt she was in any way, trying to "steal my man".



I was annoyed with her, however, when I took her with Loghain. But then again, I'm totally and admittedly biased there.

[Archereon]

Yes I did, and I don't particularly care, I dislike Zeveran. His tragic upbringings do not excuse his behaviors.

[Noir201]

She's ok, just have to take some of what she says with a pinch of salt, must admit her humor is better then Oghren.

Can understand why some people hate her, it's like having your mother speak behind your shoulder while your playing....... or is that just me who thinks that

[ejoslin]

Archereon wrote...

Yes I did, and I don't particularly care, I dislike Zeveran. His tragic upbringings do not excuse his behaviors.

Well, start a Zevran hate thread.  You asked why someone would dislike Wynne.  I answered you.  In FACT, there's a thread going on that contrasts Leliana and Zevran.  You can go there and explain why one assassin is ok and the other is not!  Ummm, that is if you like Leliana 

Edit: It's actually kind of funny how often Zevran and Wynne agree on things, but Zevran is far more vocal and convincing in his pleas.

 And you still haven't said anything about a -18 disapproval for letting the slavers DIE but telling her to keep her opinions to herself . . .

Modifié par ejoslin, 04 mars 2010 - 08:19 .

[GazzPandora]

Actually i think Wynne is one of the most interesting characters in the game. At first yeah she is a bit of a pain, but after her approval goes up i find she has some very good background stories. Not to mention useful abilities.



I support Wynne lol

[errant_knight]

Noir201 wrote...

She's ok, just have to take some of what she says with a pinch of salt, must admit her humor is better then Oghren.

Can understand why some people hate her, it's like having your mother speak behind your shoulder while your playing....... or is that just me who thinks that

Well, some of us don't have mothers anymore, and kind of like that. Just sayin'

[Herr Uhl]

ejoslin wrote...

Edit: It's actually kind of funny how often Zevran and Wynne agree on things, but Zevran is far more vocal and convincing in his pleas.

If Wynne was an male elf that tried gave you earrings and sexytime, she'd probably be about as convincing