Yeah, for me, in my first file, Dalish male named Dristen, he adopted her as sort of the camp elder at first... He misses his Dalish clan, so the party members and travelers he collects at camp are like surrogate clan to him, or at least he'd like them to be. Wynn would be the elder, Alistair would be like his clan brother, Morrigan is like the clan mage and a love interest he wanted to 'bond' with, Lelliana was like the clan storyteller.... But it didn't work out that way.
Wynn and Lel in particular are disappointing to him... Wynn looses her temper with him during conversations instead of being understanding and patient with him. He's only probably 19 or 20, and never knew much about the world outside his clan. So when he was excited about Griffons, for instance, and she was being snappy and impatient about it, it really took him by surprise. And then she wanted him to agree to live in servitude for others asking no reward in return and bearing no grudges... that just sounds like slavery. So they got in an argument about that as well.
Then, Zevran came into his life, and he was so happy to have a fellow elf around, though he tried to hide his eagerness and act cautious. But they understood each other and hit it off great. He broke up with Morrigan for Zev, because she didn't seem to see a future for them anyhow. Zevran wants to get to know him, cheer him up, wants to hear his opinion on things, and respects him when they disagree on things... They adore eachother, and Zev opens up to Dristen about his past and regrets. What does Wynn do at this point? Tell Dristen off for having an inapropriate relationship, and then when he says it's a serious relationship, tries to change her argument and say that Zevran will get hurt in the end. I liked the response that was something to the effect 'That makes sense, hurt him now instead of later, great logic'. He's never looked at Wynn as the wise elder or kindly grandmother type again. After all, he KNOWS Zevran's feelings for him are very serious. It's pretty obvious without him having to say it. But Wynne doesn't ask questions. She doesn't want to have to consider what others are thinking or feeling, nor what they have been through, if it interferes with the judgments she's already formed based on her own prejudices and ethical standards not even she herself lives up to.
He doesn't hate her, he understands to some extent why she is the way she is. But he can't respect her, because she refuses to grow and learn from her mistakes, and she disrespects someone he cares about. Her story about learning from the loss of her elven apprentice rang rather hollow, for sure, considering she still treats people the same way she treated him, and Dristen would like to think that poor mage's life was inherently worth a whole lot more than the lesson his death teaches. That bit of subtext to the convo really bothered him.
Haven't gotten far through my other files yet, but I'm doubting they are going to have any more charitable view than my kindly child of nature Dalish, who sees through her at this point, and frankly rather pities her. My HN will agree with her about duty, but is not going to be able to put up with a stranger patranising him at his age and after what he's been through... And my CE... well, if Wynn rubs her the wrong way, she'll be lucky to leave the tower alive. Wynn might want to hope Zevran is there to give me the sad eyes and tell me about mercy. LOL
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As for 'born leaders'... Well, my Dalish was not a born leader... he really wanted a simple life with his clan. He didn't resent Duncan for taking him away, as the Blight is as much a threat to the Dalish as anyone else in Ferelden, and he would die of the taint poisoning his blood without the joining ritual. But he was absolutely lost in the world, really. Did Redclif first, because Alistair said Arl Eamon should be the first person they turn to... then did the Tower because my Dalish hated the idea of a sacrafice or killing a child... Then we got Zevran, and he likes to take into acount Zevran's opinions and advice as well, which are usualy pretty apt. Zevran is a pragmatist with a heart, so he's practicaly co-leader of our little band of misfits at this point. Wynn doesn't read people well and lets the chantry's views cloud her judgement, so he doesn't look to her for guidence, especialy since she only wants to boss him around, and doesn't seem to care as much about his own ideas and motivations.
It's funny, I think Zevran likes Wynn and Leliana better than Dristen does at this point. LOL (not getting into Lel issues here as it would be OT and irelivent)
"And say 'Wynne struck first' all you like, in means very little to
me. Someone can call me a big, smelly doo-doo head, but that doesn't
mean I'm going to turn around and chuck a rock at their head. XP"But Zevran isn't mean to Wynn. He makes her uncomfortable, yes, but he's generaly very complamentary towards her. She doesn't exactly meet him half way. She could laugh it off and ask questions, but instead she patranises him, gets offended, and patranises him some more. Their exchanges left me with increased respect and admeration for Zevran and his great humor and good natured way of dealing with offensive people, and by contrast left me with distaste for Wynn for having even atempted to breach such a sensitive topic with him in the presence of his peers, and in such a sanctimonius way. Of course you aren't going to get close to someone who's been through hell by saying to them 'hey, I've got you figured out. you are this way, and feal that way, now one moment while I pat myself on the back for trying to save your soul'. Less kindly people than Zevran would have simply told her to **** off.
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And I think that is probably what she is suppose to be like. I like her. She isn't my favorite character because the others are just incredibly interesting compared to her but he when the world is falling apart around me I like that little bit of encouragement from her. Shes the camp mommy. Without her Alistair wouldn't have dry socks and his shirts would all have holes in them.
