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[Archereon]

If I knew (personally) the person who decided Awakenings should be a stand alone game, I'd have given them a good Wynne fashion lecture on how stupid that decision was.

If they'd just done this EP like conventional EPs (which require the base game to play), we could have had nearly the full DA:O party with for one thing, and it would be infinately easier for decisions to carry over.

I thought it was the EA way (and seeing as EA makes the business plan, they're "won't mess with Bioware" policy doesn't apply here) to force its consumers to buy as many of their products as possible to play a game?

[Shipwr3K]

i like expecting new companions. I really dont care if any of the dao companions make it to da2. (if there is to be da2)

Modifié par Shipwr3K, 04 mars 2010 - 09:38 .

[Raygereio]

Erm, wuh? o_O
Unless I just got hit in the head, or something, Awakening is an expansion pack and will require the original game to play (at least for the PC, I don't know how console expansions work).

The new party has nothing to do with how the expansion pack is handled (blame the writers and gameplay-decisions are transfered through your save file, not the installation of the game). As for your third statement, that doesn't even make the slightest sense in the context of the rest of your post. If EA wants its consumers to buy as many product as possible, why would they make Awakening a standalone game so that new players can skip Origins?

Modifié par Raygereio, 04 mars 2010 - 09:43 .

[tacopacabana]

its been confirmed in a million places that this is an expansion and requires the original game installed to play...

[Archereon]

You don't require the original game to play even on (nevermind, your right). That's the point of the Grey Warden commander isn't it? (If you import a game with a dead warden, they come back to life (or rather their death is retconned), your not forced to play the commander.)

And I'm talking about for console everybody, not all of us have fancy computers.

Modifié par Archereon, 04 mars 2010 - 09:43 .

[tacopacabana]

you still need the version of dragon age origins installed in your computer before you are to play origins. isnt it because origins installs the engine and such and your computer? awakening just dresses it up differently to add a new campaign.



take 2 mins and search anywhere, including steam and the EA store you'll see it loud and clear

[Evolution33]

You have to have the original game instaled on your harddrive in order to play on the PC and on consoles you have to install Awakennings to the harddrive and use the original disc to play the game. So either way you need the original game to play.

[Raygereio]

Archereon wrote...
You don't require the original game to play even on (nevermind, your right). That's the point of the Grey Warden commander isn't it? (If you import a game with a dead warden, they come back to life (or rather their death is retconned), your not forced to play the commander.)

You misunderstood that statement; you don't need to have a save on hand or even have already played Origins in order to play Awakening as you can just start with a 'default' Orlais-Warden instead of importing an old save.
You do need the original game to play it though, that's no different regardless of PC or XBox (I presume you download the expansion to your console's hard drive from the live-marketplace, something like that?).

[Victor Wachter]

Archereon wrote...
If they'd just done this EP like conventional EPs (which require the base game to play), we could have had nearly the full DA:O party with for one thing, and it would be infinately easier for decisions to carry over.

I just want to take a moment to stick up for the new companions. I've been playing Awakening (yay me!), and I think you'll find that these new guys are friends you haven't met yet, and will be as memorable as your Origins companions.

I wasn't involved in the creation of the story or their dialog, so I am not saying it from a creator's point of view, but a player's. Of course, I do work for BioWare, so this could be PR spin. But I hope you'll trust me when I say that I really do like the new crew and I think you'll warm to them too.

Modifié par Victor Wachter, 04 mars 2010 - 10:04 .

[Wowlock]

Victor Wachter wrote...

I just want to take a moment to stick up for the new companions. I've been playing Awakening (yay me!), and I think you'll find that these new guys are friends you haven't met yet, and will be as memorable as your Origins companions.

I wasn't involved in the creation of the story or their dialog, so I am not saying it from a creator's point of view, but a player's. Of course, I do work for BioWare, so this could be PR spin. But I hope you'll trust me when I say that I really do like the new crew and I think you'll warm to them too.

Now you put it that way... I am more happy with no romance idea. I dont think I could take another blow from Awakening companion love with another/new expansion/game.

I hope they can have satisfying ending though because I can see the topics '' What happend to Anders ?!'' after the Awakening. Like Origins companions , if these guys will become popular then there is more questions to come

I am looking forward to test them in Awakening.

[Wishpig]

I gotta say I'm upset it's not stand alone, but not really for the same reasons.



Stand-alone would easily justify the price, as $40 is the typically price for stand alone games, not expansions that already required you to spend at least $50 already.



I personally don't mind paying $40, but it's gonna and already has drawn some major bashing, which hurts the franchise and thus makes me sad.

[JKJEDIKNIGHT]

lol, I like the "this could be PR spin". :-p Having seen the new crew, I think it would have been good to be able to take the new warrior to bed. I bet she would have been more of an animal than Morrigan :-p

[shedevil3001]

well from the video anders and mhari look cool but awwwww gonna miss some of my old companions but hopefully they arent gone forever and maybe in future expansions we might get to go to gwaren or orlais and other places i've read about in the stolen throne man that book was fantastic

[Cuthlan]

Honestly, this group of companions looks like it could be even better than the Origins ones, ignoring the romance standpoint.



I mean... there's no Zevran. So we're off to a good start there...

[KnightofPhoenix]

When a second expansion is announced, we will see people complaining that the new guys aren't going to be in it, just you wait.

[shedevil3001]

it would be fun if at least 1 of them carried over from each game delving further into there past and how they got to where they were in the story

[Wishpig]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

When a second expansion is announced, we will see people complaining that the new guys aren't going to be in it, just you wait.

Heh, ya, me and you have been saying that the whole time.

The 2nd expansion has been announced and dated (feb 2011 I beleave.) Thats all we really know though...

[shedevil3001]

expansion or dao 2 ?

[hexaligned]

I'll end up buying it at some point most likely, the desicion to restrict the new talents/spells/specs to the expansion and not allow them in the original game seems a little odd to me though, I don't think I've ever bought an rpg expansion that was that limited. I got wrangled into playing FF 13 with the girl when it comes out, and Red Dead Redemption is coming out in April...,and then it will pretty much be summer, at wich time I'm usually spending my free time enjoying my other hobbies. I'd much rather spend 10 dollars more for an rpg that I will get 3-4x the play time out of. Hard to justify dropping 40 bones on such a limited game, at least for me personally...that being said I'm sure I'll be bored sometime next winter and pick it up.

Modifié par relhart, 04 mars 2010 - 10:55 .

[Cuthlan]

Eli-da-Mage wrote...

I want to work for Bioware. Not only do they get the early pilot version to test but they also get it 2 days earlier release unlike us download-only europeans.

P.S: When does RtO come out for PS3 i really want the carryover items but it isnt out yet.Boo to me getting dragonage for PS3 instead of PC.

RTO comes out on PS3 next thursday.

[worksa8]

Victor Wachter wrote...

Archereon wrote...
If they'd just done this EP like conventional EPs (which require the base game to play), we could have had nearly the full DA:O party with for one thing, and it would be infinately easier for decisions to carry over.

I just want to take a moment to stick up for the new companions. I've been playing Awakening (yay me!), and I think you'll find that these new guys are friends you haven't met yet, and will be as memorable as your Origins companions.

I wasn't involved in the creation of the story or their dialog, so I am not saying it from a creator's point of view, but a player's. Of course, I do work for BioWare, so this could be PR spin. But I hope you'll trust me when I say that I really do like the new crew and I think you'll warm to them too.

Thank you, that was a really honest reply. ^^
I am looking forward to the new companions, and I understand why you did this...not that I don't agree with a ton of other things though, but I've mentioned them I believe.
(No new killing blows, no DLC carrying through, etc...)

[boardnfool86]

Victor Wachter wrote...

Archereon wrote...
If they'd just done this EP like conventional EPs (which require the base game to play), we could have had nearly the full DA:O party with for one thing, and it would be infinately easier for decisions to carry over.

I just want to take a moment to stick up for the new companions. I've been playing Awakening (yay me!), and I think you'll find that these new guys are friends you haven't met yet, and will be as memorable as your Origins companions.

I wasn't involved in the creation of the story or their dialog, so I am not saying it from a creator's point of view, but a player's. Of course, I do work for BioWare, so this could be PR spin. But I hope you'll trust me when I say that I really do like the new crew and I think you'll warm to them too.

I don't really think that's the point. Not to be a nay sayer, but when people complain about past party members no longer being available, it has little to do with how 'cool' the new party members are, and more to do with people wanting to continue and evolve past relationships/friendships. You can't really blame them either, when you make characters as engaging as you guys do (BioWare) people develop attachments to them.

That being said... BioWare games give you so many choices that trying to build new games off previous ones si very tough as you have to continue to branch things out. Are you friends or aren't you? Is this member stilla roundor aren't they? Is this member dead or aren't they? So it is far easier to ratchet in a lot of things via all new party members, no romances, no dog, etc etc

Now THAT being said, although I get the choice for awakenings (and I have mixed feelings about it but I am sure I'll enjoy the game none the less - in fact I am playing DAO again to make decisions more condusive to awakenings) please PLEASE do not do that for ME3... Mass Effect 3 is the conclusion for the stroy arc of Shep Dawg and I am totally on the same page as to why Wrex, Liara, and Ash/Kaiden don't join up, and I think its totally plausible... but an all new crew would suck, i can understand a character or three not making the squad cut (and Wrex not even being in consideration) but please don't do an all new squad in ME3 with just cameos for previous members still alive

[king zetta]

The thing you people need to understand is this nothing more than big DLC. The only reason you would want to buy it on a disc is because it's very big and would take forever to download. it works the same damn way shale or warden's keep does.