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[Watcher01]

In the Prima Official Game Guide for ME2, listed under assault rifles is the Geth Pulse rifle, anyone found out if there is one in game for either the Xbox 360 or PC versions. If there is indeed one, where is it located and can Shepard use it like the Vindicator or Revenant?

[Xenon]

You can only get this weapon on Hardcore or Insanity difficulty on Tali's recruitment mission. You can find it in the last room in the mission (the same one Tali is in). It is useable, but is generally considered an inferior assault rifle.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

GPR is not as good as you think it is. It's the weakes assault rifle, of course it decimates shields and biotic barriers. Thats all.

[Watcher01]

Thanks,

I was wondering because the game guide gives no reference to it after the initial list.

[Grand_Commander13]

Yeah, it's an ordinary AR that any AR user can use once you get it (if you get it). Though as the previous two posters said it's not viewed as being very good.

[Teivel]

Personally, i really appreciate the Geth rifle and use it almost constantly after i get it. It's acurate, has a large internal ammo capacity and gives you something like 460 reserve rounds. I Can place the stream on an enemies head and kill relatively quickly on every difficulty short of insanity (which, truth be told, requires its own tactics). It just feels like a pleassure to use rather than the clunky collector rifle, the sub-par avenger or the brilliant but always empty vindicator.



Get the weapon, give it a shot and then to each their own.

[vadrillan]

It does have shedloads of ammo though



It's still miles better than the ME1 version too!

[TheRealWazzar]

It's fast, accurate, and eats through shields, but it's only average against health and armour.

[swk3000]

The Geth Pulse Rifle has the lowest damage per shot of all the Assault Rifles. However, it compensates by having the highest rate of fire. It also has natural bonus to Barriers and Shields, and a large ammo capacity (comparable to the starting Assault Rifle you get on Freedom's Progress).



Personally, I don't find this thing nearly as bad as everyone else does. It may not inflict obscene amounts of damage like the Revenant, but if you put some Tungsten Ammo on it, you've got a weapon with bonuses against everything, and with an amazing rate of fire and accuracy. It may not get the vote for best overall weapon, but it's still a surprisingly solid weapon. It's actually kinda annoying that it's not available until later in the game. I'd be interested in running through the game with it to see how it performs.

[Roxlimn]

It's essentially "better-Avenger." It's an Avenger-style assault rifle that's actually somewhat comparable to the Vindicator, which is just a straight upgrade to the Avenger, all things considered.

[RamsenC]

If the rifle truly does 3.7 damage like the ini says, its not a good weapon. When your base damage is so low even 70% more damage from ammo isn't all that much. Also after getting the AR accuracy upgrade all the regular ARs are plenty accurate.



The Avenger has more than double the damage and shoots around 15% slower. Against barriers and shields the geth rifle gets a x1.35 bonus instead of x1.25, which again adds up to very little considering the low base damage. On top of that the Vindicator blows both weapons away.

[cruc1al]

The Geth pulse rifle with its high rate of fire is excellent against synthetic targets when you use disruptor ammo, because each shot has a chance of frying the opponent's circuits or weapon.

EDIT: I might do a damage comparison video of avenger and GPR later today, with shield and health damage demostrated, and synthetic ammo vs. mechs.

Modifié par cruc1al, 05 mars 2010 - 03:30 .

[Roxlimn]

RamsenC:



We didn't go by the chart you're probably referring to. It seems to be wrong on the GPR numbers. You can try out the GPR on Ilium in a test situation against Barriers, and on Blue Suns N7 missions as test situations for Shields. It seems to be better than an Avenger, going by performance parameters in terms of damage over time in a sustained burst.



Vindicator is better than both in terms of burst damage provided that you hit with all the shots. If you miss often or go by spraying shots without consideration to when the bullets actually leave the gun, then GPR could be a better choice for mid range work, since it has a more or less continuous rate of fire, is reasonably accurate on full auto after upgrades, and has a hefty reserve ammo capacity.



If your parameter is 100% headshotting with all weapons, then Vindicator is far and away better than both GPR and Avenger.

[RamsenC]

I'm not referring to a chart, I'm referring to the ini with all the weapon data. GPR is the only gun that does not have a damage value so I'm assuming it is using the default weapon data damage which is 3.7. Since I'm assuming theres a possibility I'm wrong, but ini files usually work this way.

[Roxlimn]

RamsenC:



It appears that the GPR is actually basing itself on the Avenger base damage, rather than default weapon data damage. You can confirm the non-influence by changing the value on your ini file and observing GPR damage behavior afterwards.

[themaxzero]

RamsenC wrote...

I'm not referring to a chart, I'm referring to the ini with all the weapon data. GPR is the only gun that does not have a damage value so I'm assuming it is using the default weapon data damage which is 3.7. Since I'm assuming theres a possibility I'm wrong, but ini files usually work this way.

Its wrong. It's base damage is the same as the Avengers.

Its an Avenger that has more ammo, is more accurate, fires faster and does more damage against Shields/Barriers. Its slightly weaker against armour.

Overall it's an upgraded Avenger.

Modifié par themaxzero, 05 mars 2010 - 03:49 .

[RamsenC]

Ah thats interesting, how was that figured out?

[Athenau]

GPR is superior to the avenger in every way. Even against armor the lower multiplier doesn't compensate for the higher ROF.



Still, both are inferior damage-wise compared to the Vindicator or Tempest. And the Revenant is, of course, in another class entirely.

[SpockLives]

OP: The Prima Guide does indeed tell you where to find it. It's a tip on the map of Tali's mission.

[sandman7431]

Assuming you're playing as a soldier, the GPR is completely unnecessary. The vindicator is vastly superior and the LMG is on a different planet. The GPR is not a terrible secondary weapon for vanguards though as it has a ton of ammo and chews through shields and barriers before you charge in with the shotty.

[qq151069]

I thought the GPR is great for suppressive fire. The GPR has a huge magazine and high rof so you can pin down tons of troops. Of course, its dps is a bit lackluster so its nice to have some high dps characters (Thane, Samara, Garrus, etc...) to help thin out the enemy ranks. That being said, I only like using the GPR on "support classes" because "combat classes" need a higher dps weapon.

[SmilingMirror]

Recoil and armor penetration is worse than the Avenger. I wouldn't call the GPR straight up better.

The GPR has only slightly better RoF, and the base damage is the same. It also is better taking out shields/barriers and has a little more accuracy.

We also know very little how upgrades effect Geth weapons still.

The actual clip size is the same as the avenger.

Modifié par SmilingMirror, 05 mars 2010 - 06:16 .

[cruc1al]

The actual clip size is the same as the avenger.

Yeah and that actually means the Geth rifle runs out of ammo more quickly, even though it doesn't do any more damage per second.

Modifié par cruc1al, 05 mars 2010 - 07:43 .

[Nostradamoose]

It kills shields fast, that's how you should see it. It is a fast shield killer.



Nothing else, nothing more. So you have to mount a strategy to use it accordingly.

[cruc1al]

Nostradamoose wrote...

It kills shields fast, that's how you should see it. It is a fast shield killer.

Is it?


Geth Pulse Rifle versus Avenger, damage to shields

I did a comparison of the two rifles. I put the video clips side by
side and slowed down the action so you can watch the shield bar drain
on both sides for comparing.

To me it looks like the Geth rifle is slightly better --- EDIT: Looking at the video again and pausing exactly at the point where Avenger stops shooting, they've both done exactly as much damage to the shields.

I couldn't spam the whole Avenger clip so the Geth rifle ended up doing more damage than it should.

It's on Insanity, and I have 2/5 AR
damage upgrades and no AR penetration upgrade, the class is infiltrator
and I'm using squad disruptor ammo (40% damage).

Modifié par cruc1al, 05 mars 2010 - 08:03 .