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Belmontes

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Has anyone else thought the romances in ME1 and ME2 are pointless. Their is really no point except that u get to screw ur romance interest before the final mission. I think that bioware needs to add more signifigance to the romances in Mass Effect and maybe make it a huge deal in the 3rd games plot. 

Anyone else dissapointed when they didnt see Tali's face, who thinks they should show her face in the next game. 

lol, these posts r great. its funny to see all these people take what i posted so serious, ive had good laughs thanks to u guys. I see what most of u r trying to say by ME not being a romantic game and i see ur guys point, thats not what im tryin to say. But even though what i tryed to say did not come out clear u guys sure cleared up some questions ive had. Anyways, one thing ive been wonderin is how u think ur romance from ME1 or ME2 will tie in to the next game or if it will follow ME2's way and u can blow off ur old romance for someone new? keep up the posts, their great, haha.

Modifié par Belmontes, 05 mars 2010 - 10:21 .


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Qwepir

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I didn't do either of them in ME1, and have no plans to do any in 2. I just don't see the point.



Anyone else dissapointed when they didnt see Tali's face, who thinks they should show her face in the next game.


I don't.

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Pointless?
Well, if you consider emotional attachment pointless, then by all means.
- For me it's part of what made the first game so engrossing.

Modifié par LiquidGrape, 04 mars 2010 - 10:25 .


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Nuclear_Xmas

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maybe they should just make mass effect 3 a dating sim, how about that?

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MagicalSarai

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Mass Effect 3: Reapers of Heart and Soul

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Daewan

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I'm pretty sure getting to screw your LI is the whole point of romance. Everything else is just gravy.

What were you expecting, anyway? A little house with a white picket fence and lace curtains?

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Qwepir wrote...

I just don't see the point.

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since when does their need to be one?

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If there's no point to it, I'm not going to bother.

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For one the romances show there can still be love in a galaxy full of chaos. At least that's what I think.

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Qwepir wrote...

If there's no point to it, I'm not going to bother.

Then why are you playing a video game? Or posting on a forum? There's no point to either of those.

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Bioware is pretty much the only game company I know of that has most of their games with romances, its there sig.

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pointless romances > pointless posts.

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Mass Effect is not a romance simulator. I'd say that the romances need to have a smaller role in the next game. Garrus has about two sets of dialogue if you don't romance him. If they make romances even more important, it's screwing over the people that aren't interested in them.

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Darht Jayder wrote...

pointless romances > pointless posts.


^

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LiquidGrape wrote...

Pointless?
Well, if you consider emotional attachment pointless, then by all means.
- For me it's part of what made the first game so engrossing.


It's only pointless when they turn around and throw all that attachment away in the next game. <_<

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thegreateski

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Mr. OP, you will quickly discover that most romances both in and out of the game are pointless.

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Exile Isan

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Frankly I like the fact that you can romance someone in these games. Even if it has no impact on the story it still makes for nice character development for your companions AND your character.

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Internet Kraken wrote...

Mass Effect is not a romance simulator. I'd say that the romances need to have a smaller role in the next game. Garrus has about two sets of dialogue if you don't romance him. If they make romances even more important, it's screwing over the people that aren't interested in them.

This seems less like an argument for the devs to shut out romance, and more for them to pay attention to rich development of dialogue outside of romance. Which a lot of people are totally on board with. I think it'd make for a better game overall, but they shouldn't feel compelled to minimize romance dialogue to do it. Richer character dialogue overall, FTW.

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I see the LI's as a side quest you get to do. It gives you a chance to get to know the LI more than not following down that path.



But that is just my opinion.

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Pointless? No. Personally, I like them.

Not tied into the main story? Sure.

Could be tied into the main story? Maybe.

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Belmontes wrote...

Has anyone else thought the romances in ME1 and ME2 are pointless.

No.

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Belmontes wrote...

Has anyone else thought the romances in ME1 and ME2 are pointless. Their is really no point except that u get to screw ur romance interest before the final mission. I think that bioware needs to add more signifigance to the romances in Mass Effect and maybe make it a huge deal in the 3rd games plot. 

Anyone else dissapointed when they didnt see Tali's face, who thinks they should show her face in the next game. 


No, or not totally. I don't think they were pointless.   I enjoyed the three romances in ME and ME2's were ok, but I just have a connection with Kaidan, and if they show Tali's face you probably won't like it.  It won't be the face you imagin it to be.

I do wish there had been more conversations and more humor/flirting between Shepard and their LI.  That's one thing I did like about DA and one thing I'm hoping for in ME3. 

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Belmontes wrote...

Has anyone else thought the romances in ME1 and ME2 are pointless. Their is really no point except that u get to screw ur romance interest before the final mission. I think that bioware needs to add more signifigance to the romances in Mass Effect and maybe make it a huge deal in the 3rd games plot. 

Anyone else dissapointed when they didnt see Tali's face, who thinks they should show her face in the next game. 


I am surprised how much people make of the romances... but admitadly that is what interested my wife in the game.  

Besides, a good space epic needs action, humor, and romance. 

In regards to Tali, I found her to be the least interesting character in ME2... bordering annoying.  I could care less. 

Modifié par Throw_this_away, 04 mars 2010 - 11:28 .


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I personally think the game would be better off without them to be honest.

Back when I was playing BG2, for some reason the romance with Jaheira always got bugged - it bothered me enough that I downloaded a walkthrough guide to the whole romance to try and pinpoint where the dialogue broke. When I printed off the guide all those years ago, it came to 45 pages of dialogue, so I've kept hold of it all these years in the original game box and out of interest looked at it now.

At a glance, the Jaheira romance in BG2 (this isn't including the expansion Throne of Bhaal btw) has approximately 40-45 seperate dialogue events, including a number of specific quests relating to Jaheira - the majority of these conversations all involve relating to her character in some way with very little flirtation. For most of these dialogues, there is the possibility of choosing wrong dialogue choices which either set back or break the possibility of romance altogether. As in ME games, only towards the end could your character 'sleep' with her. All in all it's the best character writing ever presented in a videogame - the whole thing had meaning, and was a great gaming experience.

Now compare that to ME1 and ME2 - in both games the 'love' interests have approximately 5 dialogue scenes each - I'll be honest with you, I've never fallen in love with someone in real life after five 2 minute conversations, so for me to call them 'love' interests or 'romance' options to start with is fairly laughable - call them scrog options if you want, but beyond that there's very little thought put into the LIs in these games as compared to the BG characters. AT the very least, in ME1, the conversations were closer to the sort you could have with BG2 characters - it was less forced flirtation and just talking about them / stuff. In ME2 it's literally a case of:

'Oh hey new person I've never met before, great b**bies by the way! Oh...after four more times of this, we're totally going to have sex!'

I literally don't understand how anyone can develop any sort of connection to these characters at all - it just seems to be purile nonsense aimed at making pre-pubescent teenage boys giggle, topped off with some cringeworthy cutscene - whatever happened to fade to black?!

So yeah, I'd much rather they didn't bother at all, and actually spent the time saved making the core story better instead.

Generally I've always disliked Bethesda after what they did with Oblivion and Fallout 3, but one thing they'll always have my respect for is the development mantra of saying - 'If you're going to put romance options in a game, either make sure you do them really well, or don't bother with them at all' - thus why those games don't have them.

Modifié par Faceman2006, 04 mars 2010 - 11:34 .


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Belmontes wrote...

Has anyone else thought the romances in ME1 and ME2 are pointless.


One more thing... like them or not... I think that the beauty of the game is that you do not have to do them.