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#26
Jassper

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Maybe it's your video card, mine look fine,

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Actually photo shoped, but it's about what they should look like
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Archmage Silvery

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Like said before, it's most likely the lighting because it appears to be some sort of a flame, a candle or similar. That would mean the devs set the light color to yellow/orange.

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To the OP:



I have noticed that their facial expressions when choosing a voice distorts the mouth and part of face. It seems like the characters lips grow, but I haven't noticed dark or brown teeth.

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Abigail Fenn

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As long as my character doesn't run around with a huge grin displaying a rotting set of teeth, I have no problem with the discoloration.

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So who is already in the midst of making a 'clean and bright toothy smile' mod?

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Archmage Silvery

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Making that kind of a mod would take at max 15 minutes, provided that you have the game installed and have a way to unpack the texture files.

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RedShft wrote...

To the OP:

I have noticed that their facial expressions when choosing a voice distorts the mouth and part of face. It seems like the characters lips grow, but I haven't noticed dark or brown teeth.


Just look at those teeth Twitchmonkey uploaded

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... I am surprised people notice it. It looks fine to me. It's not like the teeth are rotten and black nor pearly white, but just... normalish teeth. Perhaps a few too many beers.

p.s Making a mod for it would most probably make the teeth look very, very odd. 


Modifié par Lucy_Glitter, 18 octobre 2009 - 10:18 .


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RV0LVr

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I have to agree with Lucy,they look fine to me and if they look 'rotten' to you it's probably because of the lighting in CC

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RV0LVr wrote...

I have to agree with Lucy,they look fine to me and if they look 'rotten' to you it's probably because of the lighting in CC

While I accept that it could have to do with the lighting (in which case, I still have to wonder why BW would make the character creator environment so horrible for creating characters) but I don't see how you could think they don't look abnormally brown. Again, could be a result of the lighting and shadows, but can we at least agree that under decent lighting conditions, teeth of this coloration would be considered quite unattractive?

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I noticed this too, but it doesn't bother me. Unless it's something wrong with my screen... it's quite possible because i had to change contrast, everything was too dark at first.

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I have made an animation to illustrate just how off the teeth look, maybe I'm being a bit obsessive, but I don't see this as being a minor issue. At the beginning of the animation, I have photoshopped the teeth to be very white, in the middle, they are at a happy medium, and at the end, they are the coffee color that they appear as in the editor:



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Twitchmonkey wrote...

RV0LVr wrote...

I have to agree with Lucy,they look fine to me and if they look 'rotten' to you it's probably because of the lighting in CC

While I accept that it could have to do with the lighting (in which case, I still have to wonder why BW would make the character creator environment so horrible for creating characters) but I don't see how you could think they don't look abnormally brown. Again, could be a result of the lighting and shadows, but can we at least agree that under decent lighting conditions, teeth of this coloration would be considered quite unattractive?

Remember Oblivion? You created your character in a damp, dark cell. When you got out and looked at your char (after about 15m of gameplay) you cried in horror. Here would be the same issiue. Compare your character in the CC and your portrait...even here you see a difference because the latter is in normal lighting. Nothing to worry about I hope. :pinched:

But why would people voice their concern over teeth of all things is far beyond me. I will just :D and adore my fangs in silence.

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Doc5thMech

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Brutes should by all means have rotting, misaligned teeth complete with chips and missing altogether in spots.  The nobles after a fight with such brutes, porbably should consult the herbalist to figure what leaf to chew on to improve their state. and do so on a regular basis (like eating to enhance energy levels and sleeping to recover one's strength), chewing to recover that Dentyne gleam!
For the rest of you all, I think a mod for dentures might be just the ticket.  Buy several sets so you don't have to chew those disgusting, foul smelling, mouth-wash tasting plants from the herbalist.:devil:

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Remember Oblivion? You created your character in a damp, dark cell. When you got out and looked at your char (after about 15m of gameplay) you cried in horror. Here would be the same issiue. Compare your character in the CC and your portrait...even here you see a difference because the latter is in normal lighting. Nothing to worry about I hope. :pinched:

But why would people voice their concern over teeth of all things is far beyond me. I will just :D and adore my fangs in silence.


I do remember Oblivion, I remember how impossible it was to get your character looking right due to the poor lighting and it sucked and it still does. Why they didn't learn from Oblivion's mistakes I don't know but I think they made them even worse. I'm also not convinced it's necessarily a problem with the lighting. Take a look at her portrait (and sorry for the expression, it was the only one that showed the teeth:

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Clearly more evenly and well-lit, but the teeth do not benefit greatly in color or tone due to this extra light. It's kind of hard to make a cute character when their teeth are so terrible.

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Yesterday I thought the teeth looked awful, but today it looked normal. I checked again and I noticed, that only elves haven't got white teeth.

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maybe they are all smokers lol.....

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Twitchmonkey

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sin_bad wrote...

Yesterday I thought the teeth looked awful, but today it looked normal. I checked again and I noticed, that only elves haven't got white teeth.

According to my game, if anything, humans are worse:

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Edit: Also, here's a picture of a human under similar, though admittedly not identical, lighting conditions:

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Modifié par Twitchmonkey, 18 octobre 2009 - 11:51 .


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Twitchmonkey wrote...

Remember Oblivion? You created your character in a damp, dark cell. When you got out and looked at your char (after about 15m of gameplay) you cried in horror. Here would be the same issiue. Compare your character in the CC and your portrait...even here you see a difference because the latter is in normal lighting. Nothing to worry about I hope. :pinched:

But why would people voice their concern over teeth of all things is far beyond me. I will just :D and adore my fangs in silence.


I do remember Oblivion, I remember how impossible it was to get your character looking right due to the poor lighting and it sucked and it still does. Why they didn't learn from Oblivion's mistakes I don't know but I think they made them even worse. I'm also not convinced it's necessarily a problem with the lighting. Take a look at her portrait (and sorry for the expression, it was the only one that showed the teeth:

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Clearly more evenly and well-lit, but the teeth do not benefit greatly in color or tone due to this extra light. It's kind of hard to make a cute character when their teeth are so terrible.

Ok, point taken. :lol:

But on another note - it is not like we will see our char talking on a close-up. I bet the only time we see them making faces is in the CC and then just the battlefield (if you like to fool around with the camera angles maybe).

I would be more worried about their body animation and the awful shape of a female body (a discussion for another topic, but shoulders wider than hips look just nasty, both static and even more so in motion). :?

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I imagine we will see them smiling in cutscenes, unless they're just evil and never smile. I'm not sure where I stand on whether the female bodies are wrong or just not idealized, but at least at lot goes into those, I doubt there is more than one teeth texture, and it's a sham that they didn't appear to make it that well.

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Doc5thMech

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Asheris wrote:
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Ok, point taken. :lol:

But on another note - it is not like we will see our char talking on a close-up. I bet the only time we see them making faces is in the CC and then just the battlefield (if you like to fool around with the camera angles maybe).

I would be more worried about their body animation and the awful shape of a female body (a discussion for another topic, but shoulders wider than hips look just nasty, both static and even more so in motion). :?

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Shoulders wider than hips ... shades of Arnold Schwartz... (before he went into politics, when the shoulders narrowed and the hips widened, as did the jaw and cheeks) ... :crying: not well suited to the average female.
In the same sense, it is not so much our main character's body that gives the greatest eye candy but the figure of the characters we encounter, unless one uses a more distant camera angle. So, for eye-candy's sake, let the gender of the avatar display be independent from the gender of the character, at least for the player's party.:huh:

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Kirika69

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The teeth look like they are made out of wood. Horrible.



I'm hoping a texture mod will be released asap

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KethWolfheart

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White teeth are nice, and I know this is not based on any real medieval earth background, but rotting teeth was pretty much a given in the old days. Not that I like looking at them mind you :)

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Twitchmonkey

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KethWolfheart wrote...

White teeth are nice, and I know this is not based on any real medieval earth background, but rotting teeth was pretty much a given in the old days. Not that I like looking at them mind you :)

http://www.geocities.com/mary_m_haselbauer/medievalteeth.html

From what I gather, even in the middle ages, which, let's face it, Dragon Age is roughly equivalent to, I don't think we'd be seeing this level of staining, especially when so many of the characters created are so young and pretty.

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RV0LVr

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BioWare should release a teeth related lore or something at this point,but seriously I don't think we'll be showing our teeth much through the rest of the game anyway.I can understand why it bothers you guys so much and if it does end up looking too unpleasant it has a good chance of a mod being made for it.