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Dano32839

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The bad news about Mass Effect 3 is that NONE of the main characters in Mass 2 will play a major roll in Mass 3.

The reason for this will be that for some player a particular character would have died.

And Bioware can not make a big story line for characters that may be dead.



As for Shepard, If he died.  They will probably have another main charactor to replace him/her.

So instead of a male/female voice over they will have two of each.
Two for male/female Shepard...and two for "NEW GUY" male/female.



I don't see any other way around it.

Do you?
Thanks for listening.

Modifié par Dano32839, 04 mars 2010 - 11:00 .


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See "this same argument in about 30 other places."



...and has been repeatedly said, before launch, that it will not be possible to import into ME3 if Shep dies in ME2.



Sorry man :(

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If Shep dies, you just can't import that particular file. You'll have to choose another file where s/he doesn't die, or you play as the default. You'll never not be playing as Shepard.


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-D-C-D- wrote...

...and has been repeatedly said, before launch, that it will not be possible to import into ME3 if Shep dies in ME2.

Add another to the counter.

Dang, come on guys.  Program, get with, please.

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EDIT: nevermind

Modifié par cruc1al, 04 mars 2010 - 11:02 .


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If I can't go through the entire ME trilogy with Garrus by my side I will be very disappointed.

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Just a question, why do you assume that even if they dont use any ME2 characters other then Shep, why would they need to replace the voices? Shepard would remain the same, the only new VO's they would need would be for the "new guy".



Your argument (not a hostile argument btw, so no need to confuse) has a few too many flaws.

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TommyServo wrote...

If Shep dies, you just can't import that particular file. You'll have to choose another file where s/he doesn't die, or you play as the default. You'll never not be playing as Shepard.


But I'm mainly talking about the rest of your team.  Each and every one of them could be dead to some players.
They will not have a major role in ME3.

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People have already started a dozen threads about this...

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kraidy1117

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So why should the ones who worked hard to make sure there team survives suffer because someone was too lazy or stupid to save everyone.

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Somewhere a kitten just died.

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kraidy1117 wrote...

So why should the ones who worked hard to make sure there team survives suffer because someone was too lazy or stupid to save everyone.


You assume some don't do it on purpose. :devil:

Fact is, they won't have integral roles to the ME3 story because if that character happens to be dead on some one's game, they wouldn't be able to complete ME3.  That said I can seem them returning in NPC/cameo type roles depending on their status at the end of ME2.

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I tend to agree with your reasoning; at the same time, who can really say at this point what Bioware will or will not do?

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How cool would it be if Joker took Shepard's place. If Shep dies, you see Joker replacing him at the end of ME2. So it's possible.

Joker and EDI would make a great team. EDI could be a virtual squad mate. Maybe a flying projector that requires a wifi connection for her to properly display her body image. She would also be fully equipped with tech abilities.

Modifié par kRaYzi3, 04 mars 2010 - 11:36 .


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If that's the case, then Ash, Kaiden, Wrex and the Council won't have roles in ME3.



Since the producers have already hinted that your ME1 party will have roles to play, I'm pretty sure they'll sacrifice meaningless side plots that can be tacked on via DLC to give more space to your ME2 squadmates.



The whole point of the first two games was how your decisions effect the game. If what you're proposing is true then the game becomes pointless.



And since I don't think the game is pointless...

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Nozybidaj wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

So why should the ones who worked hard to make sure there team survives suffer because someone was too lazy or stupid to save everyone.


You assume some don't do it on purpose. :devil:

Fact is, they won't have integral roles to the ME3 story because if that character happens to be dead on some one's game, they wouldn't be able to complete ME3.  That said I can seem them returning in NPC/cameo type roles depending on their status at the end of ME2.


Why not, Bioware should make people have disadvantages if people died. Why must people work there ass off if there is no reward?

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it could just look at you imported file and if the person is dead make them not appear

EX: Garrus- hide (show) if he lived

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kraidy1117 wrote...

Nozybidaj wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

So why should the ones who worked hard to make sure there team survives suffer because someone was too lazy or stupid to save everyone.


You assume some don't do it on purpose. :devil:

Fact is, they won't have integral roles to the ME3 story because if that character happens to be dead on some one's game, they wouldn't be able to complete ME3.  That said I can seem them returning in NPC/cameo type roles depending on their status at the end of ME2.


Why not, Bioware should make people have disadvantages if people died. Why must people work there ass off if there is no reward?


Exactly!  This is the point.  You've spent the first  game chasing down Saren but along the way your were building the foundations of a coalition.

ME 2 has you actively putting together a coalition for the Collector strike but you've also put pieces together to fight the Reaper threat.  Since ME 3 is clearly act 3 of a three act play, you'll start paying it off.  So the people who've spent two games, saving the rachni, helping Wrex change the Krogan,  reaching out to the Geth, rallying the quarians and rallying everyone around shouldn't you naturally be ahead of the game as opposed to somebody who dicked around to see how many of his friends he could betray or kill?

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Even if everyone lives in your game it doesn't mean that everyone will return.  Zaeed's a hired gun.  Jack's a criminal.  Thane may die from his disease regardless.  Samara most likely could return to be a Justicar...etc. 

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Dano32839 wrote...

The bad news about Mass Effect 3 is that NONE of the main characters in Mass 2 will play a major roll in Mass 3.

The reason for this will be that for some player a particular character would have died.

And Bioware can not make a big story line for characters that may be dead.



As for Shepard, If he died.  They will probably have another main charactor to replace him/her.

So instead of a male/female voice over they will have two of each.
Two for male/female Shepard...and two for "NEW GUY" male/female.



I don't see any other way around it.

Do you?
Thanks for listening.



There are countless threads about this. You are either blind or ignorant. This issue has been addressed already. Your statement is completely false. The surviving squad of ME2 will be in ME3 as your squad. Why? Because ME3 is the final fight. Theres absolutely no point for shepard to get another team of people for several reasons. 

1. ME2 is all about the squad, as said by Bioware. The whole game is about preparing your team, building trust and relationships. They wouldn't dedicate an entire game to that just to cast the entire squad aside for a new one.

2. Shepard has the most dangerous and skilled beings in the galaxy on his ship. No need to discard them and find some other people who didn't walk through hell and back with him. He's gained their trust, they would all pretty much do anything for Shepard.

3. Just because you don't see how Bioware can implement the ME2 squad into ME3 doesn't mean that it won't happen. People like you who don't understand game development figure that there is no way that it can possibly happen. 

So just because you don't understand how the writers/developers will figure out who lived and who died in the game doesn't mean it won't happen. When Bioware announced that every decisions from ME1 would impact ME2, people didn't think they meant it literally. They continually argued that only about 3 of the major ones would impact, that theres no way for them to log every decision you made in the game. Well, there are over 100 decisions that are logged in your ME1 save file and transfered to ME2. I'm pretty sure that blowed those pessimistic people's mind away. 

So stop posting all of this junk, we've had enough of these claims on the forums and they've all been disproved. 
 

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Yep, cause Bioware wrote the trilogy and said, "Know what would be fun? Lets just screw the fanbase by throwing all their favorite characters out the window."

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eternalnightmare13 wrote...

Even if everyone lives in your game it doesn't mean that everyone will return.  Zaeed's a hired gun.  Jack's a criminal.  Thane may die from his disease regardless.  Samara most likely could return to be a Justicar...etc. 


Jack realy has no where to go and she is dieing.  Samara did say that if you need her help you can call upon her at any time.

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kRaYzi3 wrote...

How cool would it be if Joker took Shepard's place. If Shep dies, you see Joker replacing him at the end of ME2. So it's possible.

Joker and EDI would make a great team. EDI could be a virtual squad mate. Maybe a flying projector that requires a wifi connection for her to properly display her body image. She would also be fully equipped with tech abilities.


Joker would stub his toe and ****ing die.

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I love how this guy says that Bioware "can not". Last i checked, you weren't head of the company, or project director.



Your argument is that because some people could have their squad members die, they can't play a squad mate role in ME3? Well what about Ashley/Kaiden? They did it with them, and one of them dies. That doesn't mean that Ashley/Kaiden won't be squad mates in ME3, in fact its quite the opposite. Your argument is extremely weak. The only one who won't be returning is Zaeed, because either he's dead from the suicide mission, his mission, or he's alive - recieved his payment, and walked. Jack has no where to go, Thane could die but he has about a year.



Miranda quit Cerberus, she has no where to go. Why would she leave Shepard? She's not the type to sit behind a desk and do something else. She will be in your squad definitely, so will Jacob.



Samara could leave, but the threat isn't over and she is still sworn to Shepard. She's most likely going to stay. Leaving to resume crime fighting wouldn't make sense when there is a greater threat - the reapers.



Garrus isn't leaving.



Tali isn't leaving.



Mordin isn't leaving.



Grunt might leave, but highly doubt it. He's the most loyal to shepard out of all of your squad.



Legion isn't leaving.





So there you have it. If you honestly think that Bioware will discard all of the squadmates from ME2, a game thats ALL about building up your team and getting them ready, then your going to be in for a shock when they return as squadmates in ME3.

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I could do without Jack in ME3. The last couple of hours of my ME2 playthrough she wouldn't even speak to me. Every time I tried she just screamed "**** Off!!"



I think she was pissed I lead her on and then chose Miranda....



The only 2 squad members I would be truly upset about not having would be Grunt and Garrus. Still, I expect nearly all of them to be back. Also, if you were someone who killed off most of your squad...then it looks like you will need to playthrough again and keep everyone alive...