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[David Gaider]

AlanC9 wrote...
I think at one point there was going to be a "Mysterious Stranger" start. But that was cut a long time ago. I don't know if there was ever any actual gameplay associated with it.

No, that was cut at the concept stage.

As for adding Origins via DLC, that's not going to happen -- for the reasons already stated. Sorry, but there are six Origins already in the game. That will have to do.

[highcastle]

I don't understand why there's a problem with RPing a HN rogue. My last character fit that bill. For RP reasons, I pictured him as a free spirit. As the younger child, he knows he won't be inheriting the terynir, which frees him to be a lot more independent than his warrior older brother.

Personally, I like the fact that the HN and Mage origins are it. There tends to be more focus on humans in most RPGs, but DA:O has strong backgrounds for all its races. And let's be honest, farm-boy-rising-to-hero is a cliche. I don't know if there's any way to do it credibly right now.

[spirit-dog]

The other option is to play something other then a HN. Despite the fact that all of the trailers and even the live chat last night show male HN's there are many many other options in DA:O.

[Sloth Of Doom]

David Gaider wrote...
As for adding Origins via DLC, that's not going to happen -- for the reasons already stated. Sorry, but there are six Origins already in the game. That will have to do.

Wait, so you are saying that having more playtime just to estabish character background than most games have for the entire plot will "have to do"?

WTF Gaider?

[Zatharnian]

They should make it that if you choose to do your skin colour darker your parents both take on that colour it makes the game look more "roleplaying'y"

[Sloth Of Doom]

Zatharnian wrote...

They should make it that if you choose to do your skin colour darker your parents both take on that colour it makes the game look more "roleplaying'y"

That has been adressed 1.000,000,000,003 times bfore, and biowae reps have even said (and I paraphrase) 'Damn, we are stupid.  Good call community"

[Janni-in-VA]

"Sure, you can throw up all the 'adopted/freak' excuses you want,..."



While I'll admit that some of my original suggestions were off-the-wall, they were also tongue in cheek. Yes, you are the child of light-skinned, human, noble parents. However, most of my post was simply meant to show that there are legitimate RP approaches which might broaden the scope of the character you feel constrained to play. I hardly think that taking a few liberties with your PC's appearance or approaching the character from a different angle (i.e. a younger child, skilled as a warrior, searching for his/her own identity) qualifies as making him/her a "freak". However, it's your game; play it as you will.

[Mlai00]

Well, it looks like I'll be able to play Sacred Ashes Warden in Awakenings, by using the "Orlesian Warden." So at least I'll have that.

Too bad he's gonna be French. But what you gonna do?

[Emerald Melios]

I just hope Dragon Age 2 has some sort of Dalish Keeper origin.

[Bryy_Miller]

I doubt DA2 will have origin stories.

[Cowboy_christo]

I agree that most origin lock you in a certain way to have to rp. Nothing like trying to play an old looking mage then be told we are an apprentice and then your roomate tell you he was there far longer than you and look like 25 at best. HN origin also lock you out of rping certain thing because it doesnt feel "right" to be... let's see, black with tattoo or pretty much older than your own dad. Pretty much all origin require u to be a "young" person which i hate when trying to roleplay something different.

[Fishy]

Although, if the Couslands are in their mid 50's,

Father and Mother Cousland seem to be in their 50's .. Fergus seem to be middle 30's.
So in fact .. The Hero could be between 20-30 easily..But he can't realy be younger or older than that.He's not married and the way your parents talk you just entered adulthood recently.

*Imo the hero's between 20-25* .. Also some hint that the hero might be younger than Morrigan .. She called me *petit homme* which basicly mean *Younger than me *

Also whatever your appearance .. Everyone see you has a young and beautiful adult.. Even if your character's so  ugly that every mirror broke when you walk to close and look older than  the first enchanter himself.For that reason i can't  play very long  a ugly character because the game don't allow me to roleplay one.In NWN it's was funny roleplaying a ugly character.

Also it's funny how Morrigan call Ohgren and Zevran with *elf* or smelly * dwarf* . She don't seem to have a problem with one of my dorf..Which was probably the ugliest dwarf you could ever encounter.

I think they should have  Charisma in the game(statistic) .. That would add more value for roleplaying a character.

Modifié par Suprez30, 10 mars 2010 - 10:40 .

[Super_Cat]

I didn't mind the fact that everyone assumed you were young and attractive, since that is the most common appearance of a "fantasy hero". I'm sure the dialog trees in this game have enough branches as it is.

Maybe if you are ugly they are just reacting to your natural charisma? Heh.

Modifié par Super_Cat, 10 mars 2010 - 01:24 .

[Danacetia]

Frankly, I don't wish to have "farmboy has village destroyed by darkspawn, picks up sword, and slays an archdemon" either. If you want to say that a "human commoner" shouldn't be added because it's boring, may I play "Devil's advocate" by asking: how boring is "2nd child to the bluest blood in Ferelden whose family has been key figures in Ferelden's darkest historical events"?

Like many who've posted I feel that RPing my HN leaves me stuck playing a "Good" character. Yes, my entire family was murdered; but, I have been taught how my family has stepped-up in Ferelden's past. So, I must do my duty to honor my slain family and for Ferelden.

Now I honestly don't want to play an "evil" character in Origins. Like I originally stated, I have a few more Human characters that I play in my RPGs and MMORPGs, and I would like to have them NOT be a Cousland.

In the days since I started this thread, I have worked on the stories of some of the origins I suggested:

Bann Son or Daughter: Instead of having your family be "noblility for generations" you father & grandfather were part of the rebellion and for their service your family was awarded the title of Bann, and became the Bann of <Bannship that sided with Orlais>. Where the HN intro talks about your family's "blue blood status", Bann Son/Daughter introduces players to the politics of Ferelden; how "raw" the wound from the Orlesian occupation still is; and/or how "stable" the Ferelden nation is on the eve of the Darkspawn incursion.

Redcliff Knight: My Denerim Knight suggestion started out as a newly knighted Redcliff Knight. (referring to Duncan mentioning that Eamon's forces could be able to help to Cailan in a week:) It just seemed to me to be a little ludicrous that Duncan went from Ostagar to Redcliff, then from Redcliff to Highever to recruit my HN then from Highever back to Ostagar in a span of 3 days. It feels like the Horde could've come and gone through Ostagar in the duration that this journey would've taken realistically. Wanting to play a Ser to learn about knighthood in Ferelden, I thought that the reason Duncan knows this is because he recruited me in Redcliff. I switched it to Denerim Knight 'cause I felt that you wouldn't be amenable to a Redcliff Knight origin since you'd have to change Eamon, possibly Teagan, Isolde, and all of the knights stationed at Redcliff Castle. But, if you were thinking of making a "Redcliff farmer" HC origin I thought I might suggest it now.

[Emerald Melios]

Danacetia wrote...

Frankly, I don't wish to have "farmboy has village destroyed by darkspawn, picks up sword, and slays an archdemon" either. If you want to say that a "human commoner" shouldn't be added because it's boring, may I play "Devil's advocate" by asking: how boring is "2nd child to the bluest blood in Ferelden whose family has been key figures in Ferelden's darkest historical events"?

See, that's why I favor the City Elf & Magi origins.

[Jackalofdeath]

The real issue is this: They already paid for all the voice work, and it would take too much time and effort making all the dialog fit into 1 new origin, and adding/recoding a lot of the dialog/scenes to react to this extra origin.


1) Make it a 7-12 dollar DLC pack, call it the ORIGINS pack. Have it consist of new origins for a lot of class/race combos. Say, 3 to 5 new origins, all being different locations/variety of backgrounds per character. Do some voice work/ add some unique responses and 1 quest per background. If it is a new area they come from, let them get the option to revisit it later, or have 1 person from the past visit them/come up to them later.

2) Make it a smaller expansion, 15-20$ expansion, a collection of origins, adding a lot of variety in backstory and replayability for players. Add locations for the backstories, new romance options for various NPCs in those locations. Basically the objective of the expansion would be to provide a lot more content, backstory, and variety to the character progression ingame.

[Kwanzaabot]

So if we can't have it as part of the main game, that's fine.



But how about as part of a new campaign? It doesn't have to be a big, Awakening-sized expansion pack, how about a nice little dungeon crawl? Give us a "bunch of adventurers meet in a tavern and head off to the local Tower of Evil to get some loot" and I'd be happy, as long as there were some interesting origins to go with it (say, another City Elf, Apostate Mage, Human Commoner and Surface Dwarf).



Problem solved. Who says we have to be a Grey Warden saving the world from the Blight all the time?

[Gliese]

It's unfortunate that elves are better mages than humans bc that means that you essentially have 3 elven origins, 2 dwarven and 1 human.

Sure you can do a human mage for RP reasons but really you have almost the exact same origin and situation as an elf mage so there's imo little incentive for it.

[casedawgz]

Gliese wrote...

It's unfortunate that elves are better mages than humans bc that means that you essentially have 3 elven origins, 2 dwarven and 1 human.
Sure you can do a human mage for RP reasons but really you have almost the exact same origin and situation as an elf mage so there's imo little incentive for it.

I think a beard is all the incentive need.

[Ayanko]

Eleinehmm wrote...

Why 20 ? I do not remember anything speficic about the human noble's age

Blah , you're brothers around 28+ years of age, you're pretty much 10-8 years younger than him. From what I recall Alistar is 23 years of age. And the Male Human noble can use the dialouge option "HA, You're a virgin and you're how old?"
^--Meaning he's obviously younger than Alistar. Plus at the age of 18-20 women are married off.
Soooo Human Noble is most likely between the ages of 18-21.
And lets be honest how many women made there female wardens young looking with the perfect complexion?

My Human Nobles are usualy light toned with Blue/Green Eyes and Blonde hair. Idk why iI always try to base the Male noble on Maric, and female noble on Katriel/Anora/Rebel Queen (All strong Blonde females)

[Mlai00]

I think Alistair is older than 23, just judging by his face.

I thought Alistair would be 25-27. Fergus would be around 32. Male HN would be around 23.

That's what I thought, anyways.

[Gill Kaiser]

Gliese wrote...

It's unfortunate that elves are better mages than humans bc that means that you essentially have 3 elven origins, 2 dwarven and 1 human.
Sure you can do a human mage for RP reasons but really you have almost the exact same origin and situation as an elf mage so there's imo little incentive for it.

The elf has, what, an extra 2 points in magic or something? It's hardly important.