I'll quote the part of his PM:
«See, those scans you took? It turns out the keepers are
bio-engineered...and based on my comparisons to some of that material
from Saren's flagship Sovereign,
they were engineered millions of years ago...by the same people who
made Sovereign!»
I had read that PM before but for some reason that very part never made me think back about the speech that Sovereign gives to Shepard in ME1 on Virmire. In ME1 Sovereign tells you that they had no beginning, that they simply "are", and that basically no one "made" them, that would imply that the Reapers have been "there" since the... well... since the "beginning" of the universe, because let's face it, either in fantasy or in our reality we as a species cannot fathom that something... anything... had "no beginning", the way we conceptualize everything has a start, and everything that has a beginning also has an end, but Sovereign says that there's a "realm of existence" or something along those lines, beyond anything we can possibly understand, and so on...
So it got me thinking that perhaps the Reapers "ascended" somewhere, or "know" about another... place... or something, and that they are somewhat disconnected from their own history, to a point where they firmly believe that they've never had "a start" per se and that they are eternal. But Chorban claims that, basically, the Keepers were created by "the same people who made Sovereign". So either the original Keepers and Reapers creators ascended into their own creation (think "Avatar" basically) and themselves became eternal through them or the Reapers destroyed their own creator(s) (that's a cliché in lots of sci-fi stuff, just think Dragon Ball Z and the Androids for instance, and there's so many examples) and self-proclaimed themselves as being eternal because they refuse the thought that in the end whatever they can say that they were created by ornagics despite all the hatred they may express towards them (that strangely reminds me of something called the Terminator franchise).
But, anyway, the point is that the Reapers "were created" when on the other hand they themselves claim... or, at least Sovereign claims that they (so Sovereign speaks for all Reapers in his speech to Shepard) are eternal, they always have been and that no one created them. Now my mind is split in two between believing Chorban's research results or perhaps almost blindly beliveing the Reapers (or at least Sovereign), or perhaps Chorban is simply wrong and his research points at no clear evidence and he (Chorban) is just too excited about it and thinks he found something awesome, or perhaps he's really right and that the Reapers somehow "forgot" or maybe somehow never became aware that they really had creator(s) behind their very existence. Actually, when I think about it, the Reapers never or cannot explain the reason why they exist, they simply reply to Shepard "we simply are", as if that was an excuse? Or is it an actual excuse because they have no memory beyond the genocidal cycles they have been doing for what seems to be an eternity.
Heh... I'm not even sure if any of this made any sense but anyway, comment if you want about this, if you think you understand it, because I don't think I do, it's kind of contradictory, the Reapers claim they have no creators, we humans cannot grasp nor comprehend the very possibility that something, anything, could exist at all without a "beginning", so we are kind of biased towards believing Chorban, or any research claiming that the Reapers really did in fact had creators... but in the end what if not one single organic species genuinely couldn't understand the Reaper's very nature and that trying to understand them is simply a futile attempt at explaining their presence.
I think I'm gonna go play again before my brain melts.
Modifié par Lyrandori, 05 mars 2010 - 04:23 .
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