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[shedevil3001]

i got 14 days to wait hmmmmmmph



eli no they havent stopped the romance its just put on hold it says that on the faq

[Noir201]

14 days for me in england, but atleast i can be ready with other char's and classes till it's out

Modifié par Noir201, 05 mars 2010 - 05:50 .

[errant_knight]

To head back to the topic.... The King/Queen is the sole ruler, but that doesn't mean that their spouse would necessarily be without power and influence. A spouse who is a warden would have their own sphere of influence and responsibilities. Not to mention that in this case that spouse commands the grey wardens and perhaps the king's armies.

[EmperorSahlertz]

It pretty much says in the epilogue if your HNM marries Anora that their constant power struggle prevent Ferelden to get into a true golden age.

[saintfrancisnudecenterfold]

If only Vincent Price were still with us. He'd have been great as Irving.

[Noir201]

Wouldn't be surpised if as HMN, it will come up in some dialogue about the struggle with Anora, or as HFN the good times with Alistair, depending on a event which both needed to settle.

[shedevil3001]

it would be good if they tried to find a way to cure the taint so the gw hfn/hmn could be with their love after they have built up the gw's so they could let someone else take charge for a while

[Dansayshi]

They can still have kids apparently, its just difficult. In awakenings id imagine a HFM would be pregnant lol. Hear me out, they know the taints going to corrupt them, but they can still have em, look at Alistair / Warden and Morrigan. So wouldnt it make sense as soon as the conflict is over they'd be "trying" lol.

[Vim]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

It pretty much says in the epilogue if your HNM marries Anora that their constant power struggle prevent Ferelden to get into a true golden age.

The exact words from the epilogue slideshow are:

married Queen Anora in a lavish ceremony six months after her coronation, becoming the prince-consort of Ferelden. Many said that  if  the two did not end up vying for control of the throne, they would usher in a new golden age not seen since King Calenhad first united the barbarian tribes.

The magic word is -- if --. I kind of get the feeling from the dialogs that she's more than happy to have her husband -help- her run the country as long as he recognizes and accepts that she's in charge. She'll welcome his advice and is willing to delegate to him important tasks as long as he understands that she has the last word.  In the very brief epilogue conversation you get with her as her betrothed, the one thing she always says to you at the end of the conversation is:

We will need to speak more of the role you wish to play. As the hero of Ferelden, there are many opportunities. But that can wait.  Enjoy the rest of the celebration, Warden. I shall speak to you again before the day is done.

It's only if you don't accept that she's in charge, then a potential power struggle looms...

Now given that my human male noble character doesn't particularly trust her with that kind of power (he's still ticked that she forced him to kill Ser Cauthrien when he would have preferred to have recruited her and thus avoided killing a capable officer and her men while the Darkspawn were rampaging.) and suspects her of sharing the same fatal flaws as her father, a struggle is probably inevitable unless she and my character really, really hit it off and she lightened up a bit on the power sharing thing. Given that he gave both Morrigan and Zevran a shot, neither of whom he fully trusted, he'd be willing to give his marriage to Anora a shot too. Nevertheless given the limited dialogs so far, i'm very much on the fence over that.  Several of my other characters absolutely hate her however.  Thankfully my hmn never told her that her father had to die.  That just seemed a bit too harsh for my suave noble to tell someone's daughter  in spite of  the fact that he fully planned on seeing Loghain dead.  Otherwise there would have been no possibility of forgiveness for her after that second even harsher betrayal where she lies to the Landsmeet  about you after you save her from Howe and promised her your support for her queenship.

Modifié par Vim, 05 mars 2010 - 11:30 .

[Galad22]

Eli-da-Mage wrote...

Apparently you are just seen as a consort and nobody incuding your husband or wife cares about you. It'll be like Alistair or Anora rejected you.

I'll be somewhat annoyed if this is true. We are after all living legend of ferelden and one of its greatest hero, everyone should know our name at least, especially if we are queen (fine princess-consort) or king as well.

[Catalyst38]

i like Queen Anora shes just the right amount of **** to be entertaining yet predictable. I marry her every time i play a human. If i'm not recognized as king in awakening i think i'll just go with the Orlesian story i mean why give us the option to transfer character if are choices don't matter.....i'm getting bad NWN2 flash backs just thinking about it.

o and my log says i'm Anora's king consort not prince consort if that changes anything.

Modifié par Catalyst38, 10 mars 2010 - 04:21 .

[Vim]

Catalyst38 wrote...

i like Queen Anora shes just the right amount of **** to be entertaining yet predictable. I marry her every time i play a human. If i'm not recognized as king in awakening i think i'll just go with the Orlesian story i mean why give us the option to transfer character if are choices don't matter.....i'm getting bad NWN2 flash backs just thinking about it.

o and my log says i'm Anora's king consort not prince consort if that changes anything.

Yep, she declares your charcter King Consort twice before the Landsmeet. Both the Landsmeet quest entry and her journal entry are updated to say that you are her King Consort.  But then when you hit the epilogue, if you tell her that you're looking forward to being King she'll tell you that you're only prince consort. The epilogue slideshow will then refer to your character as prince consort also.  Human female nobles also get downgraded to princess consort in the epilogue slideshow.  The game contradicts itself on this subject. Personally I tend to go with her proclamations before the Landsmeet that you're King Consort since the Landsmeet is the highest authority in the land.  I don't think she's dumb enough to go back on her word, particularly given who her audience was, and reduce your title when her position is still so tenuous.   If on the other hand her downgrade of your character's title is an intentional attempt to cut your character off from any real power now that the blight is over, that could serve as cause for some players to remove her from the throne. Unfortunately there is so little dialog between Anora and her fiance warden that different players can read into her words different things.  It will be interesting to see how Bioware has handled the dialog between Anora and a warden husband in Awakening, and whether it's the king-consort title that follows the character in the game or the lesser prince-consort title.

Modifié par Vim, 10 mars 2010 - 05:18 .

[L33tuberpwner]

Cousland is a strong family name.



Anora was married to the Theirin line which now all but extinguished if you are Prince-consort.



The Mac Tir name is worth dirt on it's own after Loghain.



Hell, the ending even implies a golden age of you ruling together.......if a power struggle does not happen.

[L33tuberpwner]

I was polite to Anora so me and her got along quite well.



If you're an **** to her and only after power she is going to treat you like an ass.



She never betrayed you either. She even tells you that she cannot fall into her father's hands

she is not going to be arrested and be locked in a tower.



She is basically Queen Elizabeth I and her giggle is soooo adorable, the only attractive person in the game with culture and intellect to match.



She is ruthless because she has to.

[ankuu]

Dansayshi wrote...

They can still have kids apparently, its just difficult. In awakenings id imagine a HFM would be pregnant lol. Hear me out, they know the taints going to corrupt them, but they can still have em, look at Alistair / Warden and Morrigan. So wouldnt it make sense as soon as the conflict is over they'd be "trying" lol.

Bioware hear you! :happy: I really do hope they will be trying. And what if he is born corrupted? He'll be a new-born Grey Warden.

[goofygoff]

I don't get all the Anora hate.



What was she supposed to do? Roll over and play nice, while you take her crown from her and kill her father? I probably would've done the exact same thing in her shoes.



In fact, during one playthrough I pretty much did just that - my HNF told her she was supporting her, but in the end, parked her own caboose on the throne with Alistair. Definitely my least favorite ending, but one I will import into Awakening because I'm curious to see how it's handled.

[Astranagant]

Lady Jess wrote...

shedevil3001 wrote...

i loved howe tim curry played him well but he always plays a bad guy well was sad we didnt have more to do with him before we killed him but anora grrrrrrrr i hated her from the second i met her i hate people that only care about power and manipulate to get what they want

I guess it's a credit to Tim Curry's acting to say this. But he inspires a seething hatred in me the second I hear his voice. So when I made my first human noble, I ws rather shocked that I instantly felt that when Howe spoke his first words. When he spoke the second time I realized WHY...lol Brilliant choice of voice acting on Bioware's part. Tim Curry can cause a very visceral reaction, like not many other actors I can think of just from his voice alone.

Well same Elliot can, but thats a whole DIFFERENT visceral reaction...

Tim Curry's too great an actor to be constantly typecast as villains.

[L33tuberpwner]

It would be very funny, if you can have a son by Anora.



Showing that Cailan was as impotent in bed as he was in command ho ho ho.

[Abyss Vixen]

Yer my first ending was the same as goofygoff, However i was slightly disapointed i didnt get to do the prison part during that run through as i actually manage to kill cautherin in the first encounter while saving Anora.



( Just run to the room at the end of that outside corridor and none of the npc's follow bar her )



However i did rather like being abit devious and stealing the throne of Anora, she always seemed abit to power hungry for me. But i guess that what made her charecter so intresting. Kinda reminded me of MP's *ahem*

[Maria13]

L33tuberpwner wrote...

It would be very funny, if you can have a son by Anora.

Showing that Cailan was as impotent in bed as he was in command ho ho ho.

Infertility is not the same as impotence...  You can be potent but infertile.  Conversely it is possible that the fertility problem lies with the partner.

Modifié par Maria13, 10 mars 2010 - 06:52 .

[Maria13]

x0runawayx0 wrote...

If we are King or Queen how will that affect awakening and why would u go away from your kingdom

Oh easy... Boredom with the regal life...  The need to prove oneself to one's royal spouse....  Some kind of personal involvement...

[L33tuberpwner]

Amaranthine is part of Ferelden



You are King of Ferelden.



You are not leaving your Kingdom.

[Kohaku]

goofygoff wrote...

I don't get all the Anora hate.

What was she supposed to do? Roll over and play nice, while you take her crown from her and kill her father? I probably would've done the exact same thing in her shoes.

In fact, during one playthrough I pretty much did just that - my HNF told her she was supporting her, but in the end, parked her own caboose on the throne with Alistair. Definitely my least favorite ending, but one I will import into Awakening because I'm curious to see how it's handled.

What you said. I've come to not dislike Anora too much since the kind of person I am, I would do the same thing. I've only played the game once though, trying to balance playing other games, but my first was getting married to Alistair. I'm just curious to see how it is imported, though if it's not it won't cause me to hemorrhage.