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Zenthar Aseth

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.. is generally OK. I like the challenge. But sometimes it seems like the level designers just fell asleep..

I mean WTF? Out of nowhere you get jumped by TEN shrieks.. five from both sides.. on a bridge...... you're completely surrounded and there's jsut not way to win the fight :mellow: 

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I know the fight your talking about, i just did it on hard, it wasnt particularly that difficult >< you just have to manage mage cc's and taunts effectivly, try lowering the difficulty if you absoulutly cant get through it



There are some fights though where i agree the difficulty curve spikes up ><

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Zenthar Aseth

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Yes, I can see how you can do it with certain party configurations... such as mages with AoEs. But I don't have those........ I haven't found injury kits in 10 hours so my party tank is totally useless and they just focus him to death in 1 second

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I find that if I cant get past an area. I usually set some caltrop traps down.



1 large caltop seems to do just enough damage to widdle away somthing and weaken enemies. It also stops them from moving around to much making it easier for Shale to taunt them.

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At the risk of coming across as a complete tool, I cannot tell a lie. The first time I played through, I died multiple times in some battles when I was playing on easy. After extensive further play, I can say that's probably because the game (for PC at least) was designed to be tactical. If you don't switch between characters, balance your party, and manage your healers/pots effectively, you're toast.

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yes youre toast, or toad


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is it just me? or is normal hard and easy normal? it seems that every other encounter on normal you have a 60% chance to wipe. I don't want to sound like a wuss, but that's really hardcore for normal. I played the game on normal until the baby dragon in the werewolf ruins..took me like 8 reloads to kill her. Then once i got to the ending of the werewolfs, no way in hell i could kill that mage with all his monsters. So i set it to easy, now it's too easy! But at least i don't have to try 30 minutes to kill a baby dragon. And that mage..no way in heck. I have played all the baldur's gates which i know is not dragon age but same kind of play. And i don't remember it being so difficult!



So is it just me? IS anyone else having excessive amounts of trouble on normal?

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Curry Noodles

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Yeah, I agree that default easy is too easy and default normal is a little too hard in some places to begin with. I think the level scaling is messed up, but once you get to about level 14 or 15 the level scaling makes sense again and normal mode really is normal.

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I don't play on normal, but one of my friends is having a challenging time.

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MrGOH

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Lots of people are - there are some battles that are tough if your party isn't configured a certain way, or if you never learn any spells beyond the first in any line. I had some troubles at first on hard, but now that I have a handle on the game, it seems easy to win most battles, though I occasionally have to reload. I make no claims to be a god of strategy - I think I just hit on some pretty good strategies because I'm willing to try different things if I get stuck.

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Zenthar Aseth

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Easy is WAY too easy. The battle I mentioned in the OP.. I didn't have to manage anyone to win it on easy whereas I got raped on normal...... on easy I didn't use any heals or abilities still beat it without anyone dying..

My biggest problem ATM in Orzammar is that I can't for the life of me find injury kits.. so my party is really screwed... and my main character has 6 injuries although he's never fallen in battle..

Modifié par Zenthar Aseth, 07 novembre 2009 - 08:56 .


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kansadoom

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I having trouble with some battles on normal but only a couple on which i have had to reload more than once, that wolf random battle was one of the tough ones...

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EradicatorX

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I'm playing on hard and all the fights have been easy so far, just use aoe stuns and CoC. Only the dragons gave me bit of a hard time.

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Jalem001

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Its weird how everyone struggles with different fights. I had to do the fight against the leader of the cultists like 9 times, but I killed the High Dragon on my first try. Meanwhile my friend got the leader on the first try and couldn't kill the High Dragon.



My party was two tanks (Alistar, and me), Lelianna with a bow, and Wynne for healing. No CC, but with two tanks we do fine against larger groups. Mages are my bane.



I love the difficulty. I feel its spot on.

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Sergiyftw

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Playing on normal...ive been having a hard time with some things, forcing me to be cheap...

But doesnt always work, there are times when you fight one opponent, use potions, heal do everything and that opponent STILL kills all your party with half health left... (im currently stuck on a similar moment)

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I've been playing on nightmare. But I'm not going to lie, on some fights I have to drop down on hard. On normal if you set good tactics for your AIs you can cruise through it.

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I play on hard, and so far I have fell on 1 fight that really was hard (redcliff one), so far the fight were challenging

Modifié par nordrian, 07 novembre 2009 - 09:06 .


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Bawheidbob

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Yeah have to agree with what has been said here about easy being too easy and normal well just being hard.



I find i do not need to do anything on easy to win fights yet putting game on normal just proves how clueless i am as the same fight i will get owned very quickly indeed....frustrating.

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I'll have to agree and say tactics are really fundamental to surviving if you plan on not micromanaging your party members. After about level 7 things really took off and I haven't died more than a handful of times since hitting level 21 on hard difficulty. The game really stresses tactics/micromanagement/partyconfig.

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I think that Normal is accurately challenging. After I get more familiar with the Tactics (now I have just entered the Tower of Ishal) and stop running to a battle with a melee weapon and archer's tactic I will try Hard.

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Zenthar Aseth wrote...

.. is generally OK. I like the challenge. But sometimes it seems like the level designers just fell asleep..

I mean WTF? Out of nowhere you get jumped by TEN shrieks.. five from both sides.. on a bridge...... you're completely surrounded and there's jsut not way to win the fight :mellow: 


The combat in this game isn't hard you just gotta be patient enough to pause for almost every round in some fights. A lot of people are too used to button mashing games like warcraft now and don't remember the days of BG 1 & 2 and other "turn-based" RPG's...

Like the manual says.. the higher difficulty settings require a lot of pausing and maximum use of skills and buffs as well as using the terrain to your advantage.

Getting the tactics set up right makes a huge difference as well.

I like how this game isn't a complete walk in the park like most games now days.

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Oh, and don't forget to use flasks, those are probably the best lifesavers in the early game. The most common problem I've seen so far in my friends that play, is that they like to run into a room full of archers and just take hits. Or they like to explore and enter rooms that they know have enemies with their non-tank main character. Enemies will almost always focus on the person they see first until they get hit. It's important to let your tanking character initiate the fight and deal some damage. Focus firing on one target at a time also helps a lot when you're trying to quickly remove their dps.



My friend once sent in his two-handed warrior in first before the tank and just got destroyed and blamed it on game mechanics and how it's too hard. There really should be a strategy guide or a list of beginner tips somewhere, because I'm pretty sure the difficulty turns off newer players who are used to more casual games.



But I'll have to say, the satisfaction of being tactically superior is rewarding. Just keep at it, and by the time you get over the learning curve you'll be destroying people in no time.

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Yeah have to say i am one of those who will attempt to stick with it until i understand the system.



I just feel i have been thrown in at the deep end somewhat to me having to try and take down 8/9 mobs all at once just seems overwhelming.



Totally different game to what i have played before, makes me completing Uncharted 2 100% on my PS3 almost laughable in comparison to difficulty/learning curve/understanding game

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The patch said it made it easier, which makes me sad. Why, why, why listen to complainers who can't learn strategy, and how to play the game. I might have to increase the difficulty just to have fun again. :\\



easy = faceroll mode.



did you ever play BG? >.>



You don't know how happy I was when I realized I had to be careful. And think. And that it was easy to die. *sigh* and I want it to get harder and harder, and I want to get better and better. But alas! people complain. I hope they install and even higher difficulty. I guess more options couldn't hurt..but what kind of person would want to go it to be easier? :\\



FIGURE IT OUT



not trying to be rude...

but seriously. Just strategerize, it'll work out - think, brains r m helpful.

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Bawheidbob wrote...

Yeah have to say i am one of those who will attempt to stick with it until i understand the system.

I just feel i have been thrown in at the deep end somewhat to me having to try and take down 8/9 mobs all at once just seems overwhelming.

Totally different game to what i have played before, makes me completing Uncharted 2 100% on my PS3 almost laughable in comparison to difficulty/learning curve/understanding game


The thing is to take your time, everytime you pause, check every and any of your char, see what he can do, and learn to mix the abilities (I'm playing a "cold mage", and I learned how to use it efficiently without killing my allies).