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PhoenixGate wrote...
Just to put my two cents in, hanar are the equivalent of jellyfish. Doesn't that exempt them from gender as surely as it does the asari?
jbadm04 wrote...
do you miss children during the gameplay or just "afterwards" when you are done and think about what you saw and "would" miss? I for myself enjoyed the game and didnt think about chidlren and various female aliens until this thread came up.
Well they are from a water world and they sure look like the Cnidaria species of our world, except they are exceptionally large.. and floats on air.... It isn't too much of a stetch to call them jellyfish. And how on earth would you make female/male (if they even got such terms) dicernable in this species, without it being ridiculous?Commander Shepard wrote...
PhoenixGate wrote...
Just to put my two cents in, hanar are the equivalent of jellyfish. Doesn't that exempt them from gender as surely as it does the asari?
Hanar aren't jellyfish. They may look like them but they aren't. Until they provide an explanation as to why we haven't seen any females, we cannot dismiss the possibility of female hanar
Having kids in a game today seems to be a bad thing. Modders can then mod children to be shot. Certain parties in the world don't like killing children in games. So many companies refuse to put children in games to protect there sales.Commander Shepard wrote...
Mass Effect has a problem that is shared by many other games: why are there no kids running around, and where are the batarian, turian, krogan, hanar, elcor, salarian, volus, and vorcha women? At least for the Asari, they provided an excuse to why we see no men. But Bioware has yet to provide an excuse for why we have only seen male people of these 8 races and why there are no kids ANYWHERE. I know the Krogan women are important and are kept in special camps but we should've seen at least one.
Do you want these included in the Mass Effect 3 universe?
vortex590 wrote...
There's no law in the US against children being in games or even having them killable.Such a law would be tossed out immediately by courts as a violation of the 1st amendment.Most developers don't include children in there games because it would mess with the rating they get from the ESRB.
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Well they are from a water world and they sure look like the Cnidaria species of our world, except they are exceptionally large.. and floats on air.... It isn't too much of a stetch to call them jellyfish. And how on earth would you make female/male (if they even got such terms) dicernable in this species, without it being ridiculous?Commander Shepard wrote...
PhoenixGate wrote...
Just to put my two cents in, hanar are the equivalent of jellyfish. Doesn't that exempt them from gender as surely as it does the asari?
Hanar aren't jellyfish. They may look like them but they aren't. Until they provide an explanation as to why we haven't seen any females, we cannot dismiss the possibility of female hanar
sedrikhcain wrote...
vortex590 wrote...
There's no law in the US against children being in games or even having them killable.Such a law would be tossed out immediately by courts as a violation of the 1st amendment.Most developers don't include children in there games because it would mess with the rating they get from the ESRB.
The First Amendment protects freedom of expression but it, as with nearly all the principles of law outlined in the US Constitution, is weighed against other interests. For example, we have the right to free speech but that right ends at the point when that speech begins to recklessly endanger others (yelling fire in a crowded theatre, for example). So the mere existence of the First Amendment doesn't guarantee that you can put anything you want into games. And given the number of conservatives on SCOTUS at the moment, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see them try to get such laws on the books, although I'm hopeful that the latest appointment (and some common sense) will keep that from happening.
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Jlop985 wrote...
sedrikhcain wrote...
vortex590 wrote...
There's no law in the US against children being in games or even having them killable.Such a law would be tossed out immediately by courts as a violation of the 1st amendment.Most developers don't include children in there games because it would mess with the rating they get from the ESRB.
The First Amendment protects freedom of expression but it, as with nearly all the principles of law outlined in the US Constitution, is weighed against other interests. For example, we have the right to free speech but that right ends at the point when that speech begins to recklessly endanger others (yelling fire in a crowded theatre, for example). So the mere existence of the First Amendment doesn't guarantee that you can put anything you want into games. And given the number of conservatives on SCOTUS at the moment, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see them try to get such laws on the books, although I'm hopeful that the latest appointment (and some common sense) will keep that from happening.
Even with the conservatives on the Supreme Court, it is extremely unlikely that they would uphold a law censoring video games in this manner. Heck, the Supreme Court keeps smacking down laws that ban virtual child pornography.
The only vestige of authoritarian limits on free speech in the US is obscenity. Something has to be against community standards, appeal to prurient interests, be portrayed in a patently offensive way, and have no literary, artistic, political, or scientific value. If it's in a video game, most likely it will have some artistic value, so there would be no obscenity.
Any "censorship" that occurs with works published in the US is self-censorship, either to avoid controversy, acquire a desired rating, or to avoid censorship issues in other countries the work is published in.
I am not familiar with how freedom of speech operates in Canada, so Bioware may be working under a different set of rules.
Daurf815 wrote...
Well that's easy, they're in the kitchen.
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