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No romances in Awakening?


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Rokushi

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Let me first quote this from the FAQ section of Awakening:

1.7 – If I had a romance in Origins, does it carry over into Awakening?

Romances do not carry forward in Awakening, because you are away from your previous life fighting a new threat.

1.8 – Who can I romance in Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening?

There are no romances options available in Awakening. The story is
focused more on the mission at hand and the new threat to Ferelden.


Now I'm not that much of a romanticus, but I did like the romance aspect in DAO alot, it just made the game that more enjoyable. After having played DAO I was excited and looking forward to Awakening. But they sure did take away one of the most important aspects imho. Because, tbh, this is what gives DAO that emotional depth. What is everybody's opinion on this?

Grtz

Modifié par Rokushi, 05 mars 2010 - 10:37 .


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Am actually rather glad they're taking baby-steps away from the "we have to include romances in our games" model, to be honest.

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Personally not a big deal for me, seeing as I will most likely continue this character as far as I can and I want to stay faithful to my first romance which would be Morrigan. The fact is that there are more important areas to focus on in expansions.

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Damar Stiehl

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I hate romance options, so I'm glad they got taken out.

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It is unfortunate that romance options were taken out. I am baffled by anyone who thinks otherwise.



For a game like DAO which is modelled after a real world and for a company with Bioware resources, I think every character that can have a religious belief should also have a romance track. No matter how small.



We are dealing with characters that are supposed to be believable after all.



Samara's romance in Mass Effect 2 is an excellent example. The romance does not go anywhere, but you get to see clearly that that aspect of the character is present.




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Eurypterid

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I don't mind it. Not everyone you meet in life is going to end up being a romantic interest.

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warden guru

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what i love the romance i love plowing morrigan and leliana

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DanaTodd

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Bummer. Looks to me like it puts the game back to the 11-year-old game market category. Probably won't bother with it.

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Elvhen Veluthil

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I am glad also that there is no romance in Awakening. Hopefully we'll get an interesting villain this time.

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Janni-in-VA

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I enjoy the romance option because it's something non-Bioware games usually don't do (at least not without a mod). I understand that the story is moving forward, but it would have been nice to have a romantic option for those who chose to focus more on duty and the Blight than a romance.

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DanaTodd wrote...

Bummer. Looks to me like it puts the game back to the 11-year-old game market category. Probably won't bother with it.


Really? You feel there needs to be a romance option for the game to appeal to the teen+ crowd? Nothing else matters to older gamers?

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My first Warden will always remain true to Morrigan so there wouldn't be any romances for my character anyway. Now if I could stop being a flat ear and join a Dalish tribe that would be awesome.

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Eurypterid wrote...

DanaTodd wrote...

Bummer. Looks to me like it puts the game back to the 11-year-old game market category. Probably won't bother with it.


Really? You feel there needs to be a romance option for the game to appeal to the teen+ crowd? Nothing else matters to older gamers?


Not exactly.  But it gives the game some depth beyond the concept of blowing stuff away.  It adds to the story lines, esp when the romance gets in the way.  It's something that happens to real people, and Bioware manages to make it look "natural".  As if they were thinking of concepts beyond just the battles. Especially since the other characters seem to notice and comment on the devoloping relationships. 

Without it, I just don't see much happening between the different characters beyond set ups for yet another side-quest.

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Eurypterid

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I don't see romances as being necessary for that sort of story depth. There are many other ways in which you can bring depth and emotional impact to a story without using a romance angle. Time will tell, but I have confidence that Awakenings will provide a good story without any romance options.

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No romance means no game purchase for me.  I want immersible character development in an rpg. That includes the option to love or not love.  Lose the personal options and it descends into just so much hack and slash.  I'll pass.

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Galadriel22 wrote...

No romance means no game purchase for me.  I want immersible character development in an rpg. That includes the option to love or not love.  Lose the personal options and it descends into just so much hack and slash.  I'll pass.


That's absolutely your choice, and if romance is a make-or-break for you, fair enough. But I think it's a rather narrow view. Just because there's no romance option does not mean it's solely hack and slash. There are plenty of ways to build roleplaying and story without romance. I'm not trying to change your mind or convince you that you need to buy Awakenings; just pointing out that the 'R' in RPG doesn't just stand for romance.

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Eurypterid wrote...

Galadriel22 wrote...

No romance means no game purchase for me.  I want immersible character development in an rpg. That includes the option to love or not love.  Lose the personal options and it descends into just so much hack and slash.  I'll pass.


That's absolutely your choice, and if romance is a make-or-break for you, fair enough. But I think it's a rather narrow view. Just because there's no romance option does not mean it's solely hack and slash. There are plenty of ways to build roleplaying and story without romance. I'm not trying to change your mind or convince you that you need to buy Awakenings; just pointing out that the 'R' in RPG doesn't just stand for romance.


Exactly my though.Plus you're a commander warden trying to fight talking darkspawn and if you romanced someone in origins .. Do you really need to fall in love with the first new companions that show up?That remind me of my teenager years .. Falling in love after the first kiss.Like my mother told me ..Teenager don't  know about love .. They love love.

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 I am very disappointed that I am unable to continue romancing my toons wife, Queen Anora.  I will still get the expansion and I hope they rectify this with a DLC or two because I expect at least existing romances to play 'SOME' part of the story at least.  I mean, my toon is the King and the Queen has nothing to say about him running off to some new darkspawn menace?  Somebody at BioWare dropped the proverbial ball on this one and I just hope they have the good sense to pick that ball back up.

Sure there is more than Romance to the 'R' in RPG;  However, Dragon Age: Origins already established romance as as being a big part of the Role you choose to play.

Modifié par Jax Sparrow, 06 mars 2010 - 06:56 .


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I don't need romances for bed scenes. I just want more complexity in companion relations. I want betrayals, challenges, romantic tensions, spurns, for the topic to come up even if it will always end in a rejection, or a future promise. As long as those are delivered, it doesn't matter to me if they ever get naked.

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I'm sorry to hear this too. Makes me much less likely to be interested in playing. Bioware has always done this well, and it's always optional anyway. I'd prefer to have it as an option.



That's cool, though. No game can be all things to all people.

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I was disappointed too that in the expansion I wouldn't be able to continue the story of my 'main' warden and his devoted companion who is due to stay with him into the future. However I guess the die is now cast as far as Awakenings is concerned and I've decided to recreate that particular warden based on my experience to date, and complete some others that are still playing out the story in different ways. I will await feedback on Awakenings but my main concern now is about the future.

It's clear some people love the romance options (to my wife, it is essential), some don't and some are indifferent. That's fair enough but what makes DAO such a classic is that it has something for everyone, and if you don't like some of the elements, you can pass them by. They gave DAO an extra level of interest to many of us because of the extra dimension and depth given to the game and because they help us to imagine our characters and companions better as three-dimensional individuals with a wide range of emotions and feelings. They added to the fun too. To an extent, romance has become a signature of BW games, and the contribution it makes to roleplay and depth helps to give BW an edge over the opposition imo. Just because some of you would happily do without the romance doesn't mean that the rest of us should have to as well.

I hope BioWare do not water down or remove romance from future follow-ups to DA: Origins, That would be a great shame. I hope that instead, they will build on the assets they have created.

Modifié par Aybeden, 06 mars 2010 - 11:42 .


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Akka le Vil

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The fact there is talking darkspawn is more of an annoyance than the fact there is no romance, honestly :P

I like romance a lot, but if it's a mandatory trait, it starts to feel artificial. Like it was said, you don't have everyone falling in love with you in real life (unless you're one hell of a lucky bastard).

Or, as a middle ground, perhaps that Bioware could make a "specifically non-romanceable" character, that you can attempt to romance but that is not interested and would refuse :P

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Romance is pretty much staple in any decent fantasy tale, whichever medium it features in. Western RPG sacrifices story telling impact by claiming to give the player the ability to 'forge their own tale' - something which to a degree, Dragon Age succeeded at, (although only surface deep in some aspects.)

However, removing the romance lines from the game rather than developing them deeper, (betrayal, mistrust, commitment etc etc) just smacks of avoiding the harder job of continuing the story into fresh ground. Instead, Bioware are reducing the breth of the story, which can only reduce it's overall impact and completeness.

It's a shame - and reminds me why I prefer narrative driven JRPG where perhaps the choices might go out of the window, but their story telling ability and level of immersion is much better.

Probably a purchase breaker for me in the end - if I want mindless hack and slash I can play an MMO and at least be socialable while doing so...

Modifié par ninemil, 06 mars 2010 - 01:02 .


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Like I said earlier I think every character that can have a religious belief should also have a romance track. No matter how small.

It will be interesting to see how the game plays with that one leg amputated

I personally think it was a money/budget issue. They were short money and had to make choices what to cut

Modifié par vilnii, 06 mars 2010 - 01:18 .


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Eurypterid wrote...

DanaTodd wrote...

Bummer. Looks to me like it puts the game back to the 11-
year-old game market category. Probably won't bother with it.


Really? You feel there needs to be a romance option for the
game to appeal to the teen+ crowd? Nothing else matters to
older gamers?


"You took the words right out of my mouth
It must have been while you were kissing me"

Ahem; I agree with you that romance doesn't have to be in every game expansion that Bioware does. (Two points to the first person that identifies the singer of the song that contains the above quote)