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When I first saw Anders, I thought he would be the perfect guy for one of my PCs who got dumped by Alistair. I have other PCs who ended Origins without being involved in a romance, and others who would stay faithful to their Origins romance even if tempted by a new romance in Awakenings (or struggle to remain faithful, fail and have to deal with the consequences).

So, I was disappointed to learn that none of the new characters would be romance options. I'm not as bothered by the fact that the old romances won't be coming along, since they will at least be referred to and may have cameo appearances.

I like the romance aspect of Bioware games because it adds depth to the characters and the story, and makes immersion into the world much more real. I'm still interested in the expansion without the romances, because romance is not the only way to deepen characters and stories. I'd be less interested in future DA projects if romance gets cut altogether, but I haven't heard anything that suggests this is new policy for Bioware, so I'm not worried about that yet.

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I swear bioware should just make a western version of one of those crappy Japanese dating sims to appease people.

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Sloth Of Doom wrote...

I swear bioware should just make a western version of one of those crappy Japanese dating sims to appease people.


I don't think a crappy dating sim would actually appease the people who like the romance aspect of Bioware's games.
I've seen many posts from people saying they feel the romances add to the story and character development and that the game would not be as enjoyable for them without the romances. For some the romance is a major part of the enjoyment, for others it's not necessary but very welcome. No one has said they want the games to be all about romances all the time.

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It's just a shame they've cut it out. Ofcourse it's no necessity, but it adds depth to the characters and the story. I've played alot of RPG's, none had the romance option, and due to the fact that BW has the romance option in their games, I'm 10 times more caught up in the story and emotionally attached to the characters. The statement "I'm glad there's no romance in the game, etc." doesn't really make sense, since if you don't like it, you can just skip all that. But it should stay in the game for the people who like the feature, which was available before the expansion, and should therefor have been available in the expansion too. Considering, what, 50% or more, like the feature.



Even though it's not in it, I'll still play the expansion, just dissapointed they took it out.

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I don't much care that the new characters aren't available for sexy time, but I am more than a little bit annoyed that my little red headed bard isn't coming along in this installment. I replayed about half the game on my favorite character just to "harden" her so she would stay with me.

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Saying you're not going to buy the expansion because it doesn't include your romance is about as ludicrous as not purchasing a brand of cigarettes because they're temporarily pulling your favorite flavor. You know damn well it's not the terribly-limited romance you're addicted to, yet you have the audacity to claim such a petty thing makes or breaks the game and its story. With such a one-dimensional position on the issue, you might as well claim you've also only played through the game once. Leliana is, after all, your one-true love!

So, lets say you get your returning romance. You're having fun continuing your seemingly wonderous escapade with your love of choice; it would seem that all is well, since having a romance suddenly makes the story 10x more interesting. You smile that selfish smile as every other player has to bare with the outcome of having to play through the expansion with what could very well be their most hated character. It doesn't matter to you of course, but the problem is still there. People still aren't happy with the outcome, because financial shortcomings cuts short the nit-picking consumer's desire for the best of both worlds. But that makes too much sense, doesn't it?

Anyone demanding that Bioware should've implemented this into the expansion, and then continue to threaten them with their insignificant personal boycott are just kidding themselves. You're obviously not comprehending how it is just an extension, and isn't obligated to continue every little thing that was present in the original game. This will most likely fail to be the only expansion they're going to be releasing. If Awakening had the original cast of characters instead of entirely new ones this would be, quite literally, a different story. But as it is right now, and as it always has been ever since the beginning of Awakening's development, the character who could neither die or be romanced remains the most logical decision. If you still can't grasp this after release, you weren't that much into Dragon Age as a whole in the first place.

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Same for me, no romance and no team members from DA means no buy from me.

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that sucks i wanted to see what happened with morrigian

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Caozen wrote...

Saying you're not going to buy the expansion because it doesn't include your romance is about as ludicrous as not purchasing a brand of cigarettes because they're temporarily pulling your favorite flavor. You know damn well it's not the terribly-limited romance you're addicted to, yet you have the audacity to claim such a petty thing makes or breaks the game and its story. With such a one-dimensional position on the issue, you might as well claim you've also only played through the game once. Leliana is, after all, your one-true love!

So, lets say you get your returning romance. You're having fun continuing your seemingly wonderous escapade with your love of choice; it would seem that all is well, since having a romance suddenly makes the story 10x more interesting. You smile that selfish smile as every other player has to bare with the outcome of having to play through the expansion with what could very well be their most hated character. It doesn't matter to you of course, but the problem is still there. People still aren't happy with the outcome, because financial shortcomings cuts short the nit-picking consumer's desire for the best of both worlds. But that makes too much sense, doesn't it?

Anyone demanding that Bioware should've implemented this into the expansion, and then continue to threaten them with their insignificant personal boycott are just kidding themselves. You're obviously not comprehending how it is just an extension, and isn't obligated to continue every little thing that was present in the original game. This will most likely fail to be the only expansion they're going to be releasing. If Awakening had the original cast of characters instead of entirely new ones this would be, quite literally, a different story. But as it is right now, and as it always has been ever since the beginning of Awakening's development, the character who could neither die or be romanced remains the most logical decision. If you still can't grasp this after release, you weren't that much into Dragon Age as a whole in the first place.


non-sense and Hog wash...  If Marlboro stopped making light cigarettes I would indeed stop buying their products.  

Romance is a big part of fantasy literature.   The main character's romance in any fantasy story always plays a major role.  Read just about any forgotten realms novel and you'll see what I mean.  Now, I'm not saying that it can't be done, but for many people it's just not the same without a romance in the story especially when it's a continuation like Awakenings is.  

Deciding not to purchase a product because it doesn't have a feature that you want is entirely reasonable.  I wouldn't buy a car without seats, or a house without windows.  And to some people romance IS that important.  Who are you to judge them?  

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NO ROMANCE!!!!!!!!

I am both appalled and outraged, since romancing and character intimacy to me made the game much muuuuuuuch more fun to play

Good day sir!

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Too bad they are taking them out. I personally thought that each character in DAO should have been able to have one. It can't possibly take up that much more space in the game. Strange decision to remove them. Only thing I can think of is budget restrictions.

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Not a big deal as far as I am concerned, it neither makes nore breaks the game for me. While it was a fun aspect of the game for me, it wasn't the end all be all of immersion. Besides, I kinda like the fact my charcter (whichever one I decide to bring along first) stays true to his original romance. Ya want authenticity, most peopel don't go around cheating on their significant others, or doing everything that walks upright and has two legs.

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I just hope to at least run into a certain captain. Or a close relative with similar tastes for that matter.

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I definitely thought the romance aspect of the game was fun and added to the depth of my character (plus it was kinda funny to see my female dwarf and Alistair together Posted Image ). But frankly, it sounds like the expansion might be too short to develop any meaningful romantic relationships. My chars' relationships took awhile to develop, which I kinda liked.

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Oh well, if they make the villians better than Origin's I will be happy. Romance was a pretty awesome aspect of Origins, but I doubt it will be as essential in the new expansion. I loved seeing Morrigan and Leliana fighting over my character though. Anyways, I'm glad at least some people are actually not buying this game over something they deem essential. I'm so tired of these bots supporting these companies to death makes me sick thinking about it. I hope in the Bioware continues the romance theme in Dragon Age 2, or whatever the sequel will be.

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Would definately miss the romance option. But i actually hope that the modder-community will pick this one up. Especially given how many ppl are disappointed about the lack of romance.

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I was most disappointed when I heard they took the romance option out..I loved all the talking and the side comments the characters use to throw at each other...well i guess it will be the first bio-ware game without romance than..but still it would be better if they didn't exclude the option outright...I sincerely hope they won't do that in the future DA's..

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Ok no new romance i can live with, but your romances from Origins wont be carried over? so what you just break up with your old flings or what? why can't lilliana or whomever be a part of your new life fighting this new threat? at least with Lillianna she said she will go with you wherever you go, so it kinda doesn't make sense story wise to not have your romances carry over, hopefully its addressed in the story of awakenings somehow.

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i was disappointed when i read about that, but i'm undecided till i beat awakening

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urvashi wrote...



I like the romance aspect of Bioware games because it adds depth to the characters and the story, and makes immersion into the world much more real. I'm still interested in the expansion without the romances, because romance is not the only way to deepen characters and stories. I'd be less interested in future DA projects if romance gets cut altogether, but I haven't heard anything that suggests this is new policy for Bioware, so I'm not worried about that yet.


Origins is the first video game that has really begun to engage me with the characters and their stories and I'd like more. I'm not yet convinced I'm going to get that from the expansion. However, in a series of interviews late last year, the head of BW, Ken Muzyka, set out his vision for the future of BW games. He placed a lot of emphasis on developing the depth of the characters and immersing us deeply into their stories. Romance was an important part of his vision. He wanted us to become emotionally involved and really care about the characters.

He said Origins was just a step on the way to realising that vision. It's the content of those interviews that gives me hope for the future of BW games.

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Aybeden wrote...

urvashi wrote...



I like the romance aspect of Bioware games because it adds depth to the characters and the story, and makes immersion into the world much more real. I'm still interested in the expansion without the romances, because romance is not the only way to deepen characters and stories. I'd be less interested in future DA projects if romance gets cut altogether, but I haven't heard anything that suggests this is new policy for Bioware, so I'm not worried about that yet.


Origins is the first video game that has really begun to engage me with the characters and their stories and I'd like more. I'm not yet convinced I'm going to get that from the expansion. However, in a series of interviews late last year, the head of BW, Ken Muzyka, set out his vision for the future of BW games. He placed a lot of emphasis on developing the depth of the characters and immersing us deeply into their stories. Romance was an important part of his vision. He wanted us to become emotionally involved and really care about the characters.

He said Origins was just a step on the way to realising that vision. It's the content of those interviews that gives me hope for the future of BW games.


For me, Fable was the first game I was able to feel any connection to the character and the world. Origins blows Fable away, however, with truly engaging characters and stories. (I also love that there aren't simple black & white morality issues in Dragon Age, the choices you make are more complex.) I'm really glad to hear that deepening characters and stories, including romances, is a goal for Bioware games in general. I'm currently playing my tenth PC in this game and despite the fact that you do the same quests, the story is different every time depending on how you play the character, who you bring in your party, who you romance and who you befriend. With Mass Effect, as much as I loved that game, I have no desire to play more than one Shephard, as rich as that universe was, I don't think there is more I could learn about it by doing it again.

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I'd forgove them if they had inter party romances, as in a destined soulmate in the game that wasn't you character. The romance options with your character could be complicated if your already sworn to anyone. But I see no reason to have two other party members fall in love...and hey, if you can help/hinder that process--that would be kinda fun. Actullay, I'd like that in the sequel...as well as sorting your own love life out--you can meddle in the party's affairs too--ahahah.

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I was disipointed when i heard theres no new romance but no lilanna!? shes the only charater i would want to hell with alistar and ESPECIALLY ogrhen its a injustice to see that some of my best charaters for combat are being robbed from me i dont care if they took out all the new charaters and just made me and lilanna do everything i need my lock picker lol plus i wouldnt mind losing her but then not being able for forum bonds and relationships with new charaters!? i mean most grey wardens arent aloud to have relationships but common if we cant have the old relationships they could atleast give us the ability to explore new bonds. But oh well dao 2 will come out and relationships will be back in i just hope you can import favorite charaters after all alot of them offer to travel with you after end game *cough* oghren, lilanna, zevran.

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In an RP sense, I think it is kind of appropriate...you're not some ragtag bunch out on the road, you're the Warden Commander of Ferelden now and a relationship might be a liability as well as a distraction. On a RL level, I can also imagine how complicated it would be from both a programming and a writing standpoint to bring all of the possible choices/romances/etc. over from DA:O.



Really, all I'm hoping is that the character that I offed doesn't make a zombie appearance. Actually, that would be OK, as long as he really is a zombie.