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[Suron]

...why can't we call him out/**** at him over it?

now I can see a carebear, I mean paragon, Shepard not bringing it up..but Renegade?

Screw you Joker..if your ****** had evacuated and gotten into an escape pod..guess what...I WOULD'NT HAVE BEEN SPACED...I WOULDN'T HAVE DIED.

YOU CAUSED MY DEATH by being a MORON.

now...honestly..my "canon" shepard..for myself...is a paragon..a goody goody...so he doesn't necessarily blame Joker...though if it was me I'd tease him about it in a joking but not joking kind of way...

however in my Renegade playthrough...I don't see how I don't have the option of downright ****ing him out and throwing in his FACE how my death was HIS fault...and if not refusing to let him back on MY ship at LEAST telling him that if he so much as blinks after I give him an order I'm putting a vent in his forehead with my rifle.

[Tooneyman]

I hate you! Simple easy. Joker is awesome. I'm glad shepard saved him. Besides at that time. IF joker moved to much it would break his legs. DUH! after he got with cerberus he got an upgrade on his body. The creators even explain it.

[Suron]

Tooneyman wrote...

I hate you! Simple easy. Joker is awesome. I'm glad shepard saved him. Besides at that time. IF joker moved to much it would break his legs. DUH! after he got with cerberus he got an upgrade on his body. The creators even explain it.

ok point me to the dialogue that states or even suggest joker got some kind of upgrade?

second I like joker too..however I'm talking matter-of-factly...and it is..matter-of-factly...HIS fault you died...and he's always been able to walk..he just has to be careful..he could have made it to the escape pod..or did you miss that it was RIGHT BEHIND HIM

[Nastrod]

Tooneyman wrote...

I hate you! Simple easy. Joker is awesome. I'm glad shepard saved him. Besides at that time. IF joker moved to much it would break his legs. DUH! after he got with cerberus he got an upgrade on his body. The creators even explain it.

He has always been able to walk since  he has brittle bones not no bones. There is a real disease like that now. I am not saying he can walk that great but it it not like in ME1 he needed a wheelchair.

Modifié par Nastrod, 05 mars 2010 - 05:26 .

[Tooneyman]

On my thread for joker romance I will go find it. There is a link that tells about joker upgrades. I don't remember what part it is, but trust me its there.

[Wild Still]

ME2 would have been about the destruction of the Reapers, but Joker humped the pooch and necessitated a whole extra episode.If he screws up like this again the Reapers will have to wait 'till ME4 to get spanked by the Shepard.

[Tooneyman]

Here you go home boy here the link Enjoy knowing the truth. HAAHHAA!

http://www.youtube.c...u/7/SLK2bPz1Ce0

[Suron]

he was still able to walk even before the upgrade (I'm not gonna bother looking at the link..I'll take your word for it)



however it doesn't change the fact he could always walk..regardless...the escape pod was FIVE FEET FROM HIM..



defend it all you want..it's his fault Shepard died. I like him too..I'm talking from a renegade and matter-of-fact standpoint...it's his fault.

[The Governator]

Suron wrote...

...why can't we call him out/**** at him over it?

now I can see a carebear, I mean paragon, Shepard not bringing it up..but Renegade?

Screw you Joker..if your ****** had evacuated and gotten into an escape pod..guess what...I WOULD'NT HAVE BEEN SPACED...I WOULDN'T HAVE DIED.

YOU CAUSED MY DEATH by being a MORON.

now...honestly..my "canon" shepard..for myself...is a paragon..a goody goody...so he doesn't necessarily blame Joker...though if it was me I'd tease him about it in a joking but not joking kind of way...

however in my Renegade playthrough...I don't see how I don't have the option of downright ****ing him out and throwing in his FACE how my death was HIS fault...and if not refusing to let him back on MY ship at LEAST telling him that if he so much as blinks after I give him an order I'm putting a vent in his forehead with my rifle.

Do you honestly think a Renegade Shepard would have sacrificed or even risked his/her life for the sickly kid with brittle bones?  I don't.  Joker was 'an ass' according to a renegade Shepard in the first ME.  So why risk life and limb to save him?  He's just a helmsman, not the savior of the Galaxy.

[Ecael]

Technically speaking, Shepard, it is your own fault that you were ejected through the ship's hull. Mr. Moreau's actions are not uncommon among pilots or ship captains who have become sentimentally attached to their vessel. All other possible crew members had already escaped, implying that his purpose was to ensure the survival of others.

Unfortunately, you did not have the choice of abandoning Mr. Moreau.

[Tooneyman]

I know, dude I'm just pulling your leg. As a renegade option your being to nice. You should take the controls away from him and show joker who his daddy or momma depending if your a male shep or female shep. lol. HEy joker whos in charge now. I died for you once, now I'm taking the ship away from you. This is what you get for killing me you weak boned bastard. hehe.



Joker goes and crys in a corner!

[GenericPlayer2]

This cannot be blamed on Joker's physical condition. Ash/Kaidan/Liara clearly state that Joker won't leave, not that he can't leave, or needs someone to help him leave.

[The Governator]

justinnstuff wrote...

Ecael wrote...

Technically speaking, Shepard, it is your own fault that you were ejected through the ship's hull. Mr. Moreau's actions are not uncommon among pilots or ship captains who have become sentimentally attached to their vessel. All other possible crew members had already escaped, implying that his purpose was to ensure the survival of others.

Unfortunately, you did not have the choice of abandoning Mr. Moreau.

True, isn't the captain supposed to go down with the ship? 

I am not sure that is entirely true.  I thought that the captain is supposed to go down with the ship if the entire crew cannot get off.  As far as I know, Captains are supposed to be the last ones off the ship, but that does not mean dying if there is no one left to save.

[Suron]

The Governator wrote...

Suron wrote...

...why can't we call him out/**** at him over it?

now I can see a carebear, I mean paragon, Shepard not bringing it up..but Renegade?

Screw you Joker..if your ****** had evacuated and gotten into an escape pod..guess what...I WOULD'NT HAVE BEEN SPACED...I WOULDN'T HAVE DIED.

YOU CAUSED MY DEATH by being a MORON.

now...honestly..my "canon" shepard..for myself...is a paragon..a goody goody...so he doesn't necessarily blame Joker...though if it was me I'd tease him about it in a joking but not joking kind of way...

however in my Renegade playthrough...I don't see how I don't have the option of downright ****ing him out and throwing in his FACE how my death was HIS fault...and if not refusing to let him back on MY ship at LEAST telling him that if he so much as blinks after I give him an order I'm putting a vent in his forehead with my rifle.

Do you honestly think a Renegade Shepard would have sacrificed or even risked his/her life for the sickly kid with brittle bones?  I don't.  Joker was 'an ass' according to a renegade Shepard in the first ME.  So why risk life and limb to save him?  He's just a helmsman, not the savior of the Galaxy.

actually I meant to bring that up in my OP....why aren't we given the option to say "Screw Joker"....why? because Bio shoe-horns us into going after him so we can "die"

[Tooneyman]

Your best renegade option towards joker was this. Ashley shows up.

AShley: Shepard I'm going to help you.

Shepard. No get everyone off the ship thats a damn order!

[CrookedAsylum]

Darht Jayder wrote...

http://silentstephi..../ohhaijoker.bmp

Joker hates you too.

That's a look even a Reaper would fear.

[eternalnightmare13]

Suron wrote...

The Governator wrote...

Suron wrote...

...why can't we call him out/**** at him over it?

now I can see a carebear, I mean paragon, Shepard not bringing it up..but Renegade?

Screw you Joker..if your ****** had evacuated and gotten into an escape pod..guess what...I WOULD'NT HAVE BEEN SPACED...I WOULDN'T HAVE DIED.

YOU CAUSED MY DEATH by being a MORON.

now...honestly..my "canon" shepard..for myself...is a paragon..a goody goody...so he doesn't necessarily blame Joker...though if it was me I'd tease him about it in a joking but not joking kind of way...

however in my Renegade playthrough...I don't see how I don't have the option of downright ****ing him out and throwing in his FACE how my death was HIS fault...and if not refusing to let him back on MY ship at LEAST telling him that if he so much as blinks after I give him an order I'm putting a vent in his forehead with my rifle.

Do you honestly think a Renegade Shepard would have sacrificed or even risked his/her life for the sickly kid with brittle bones?  I don't.  Joker was 'an ass' according to a renegade Shepard in the first ME.  So why risk life and limb to save him?  He's just a helmsman, not the savior of the Galaxy.

actually I meant to bring that up in my OP....why aren't we given the option to say "Screw Joker"....why? because Bio shoe-horns us into going after him so we can "die"

Same reason you can't go running through the Normandy during the attack screaming like a little girl and shoving people out your way in order to take an escape pod all by yourself.

[Collider]

Joker wasn't the one who put the collector ship right next the relay. He couldn't foresee the danger the ship would have to the Normandy. There's no way Joker could have gotten off the ship alone, unless you think he could viably crawl the escape pod.

[Mondo_]

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[SelphieSK]

GenericPlayer2 wrote...

This cannot be blamed on Joker's physical condition. Ash/Kaidan/Liara clearly state that Joker won't leave, not that he can't leave, or needs someone to help him leave.

This.
He believed he could save the ship. He tells you that.
And Shepard needed to die to get the game started, so to speak.
Blame the writers. Not Joker.

[Oawa]

Ecael wrote...

Technically speaking, Shepard, it is your own fault that you were ejected through the ship's hull. Mr. Moreau's actions are not uncommon among pilots or ship captains who have become sentimentally attached to their vessel. All other possible crew members had already escaped, implying that his purpose was to ensure the survival of others.

Unfortunately, you did not have the choice of abandoning Mr. Moreau.

Seconding this.

Shepard made the conscious decision to go after Joker.  Joker didn't ask him to.

Renegade Shep, may be an ass, but I don't see them as being a selfish spoiled child that blames everyone else for their problems.

[jinrsx]

What was he gonna do, break his arm at them?