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Ecael

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The Governator wrote...

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Ecael wrote...

Technically speaking, Shepard, it is your own fault that you were ejected through the ship's hull. Mr. Moreau's actions are not uncommon among pilots or ship captains who have become sentimentally attached to their vessel. All other possible crew members had already escaped, implying that his purpose was to ensure the survival of others.

Unfortunately, you did not have the choice of abandoning Mr. Moreau.


True, isn't the captain supposed to go down with the ship? =]


I am not sure that is entirely true.  I thought that the captain is supposed to go down with the ship if the entire crew cannot get off.  As far as I know, Captains are supposed to be the last ones off the ship, but that does not mean dying if there is no one left to save.

That may depend on whether you consider Commander Shepard or Mr. Moreau to be the captain of the vessel.

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Actually, if you want to get right down to it it's Shepard's fault s/he died. I mean wouldn't you have hopped right into the escape pod after you got Joker in there? I mean s/he hangs around to see the ship get blown up? What an idiot. Image IPB

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Suron wrote...

...why can't we call him out/**** at him over it?

now I can see a carebear, I mean paragon, Shepard not bringing it up..but Renegade?

Screw you Joker..if your ****** had evacuated and gotten into an escape pod..guess what...I WOULD'NT HAVE BEEN SPACED...I WOULDN'T HAVE DIED.

YOU CAUSED MY DEATH by being a MORON.

now...honestly..my "canon" shepard..for myself...is a paragon..a goody goody...so he doesn't necessarily blame Joker...though if it was me I'd tease him about it in a joking but not joking kind of way...

however in my Renegade playthrough...I don't see how I don't have the option of downright ****ing him out and throwing in his FACE how my death was HIS fault...and if not refusing to let him back on MY ship at LEAST telling him that if he so much as blinks after I give him an order I'm putting a vent in his forehead with my rifle.


Hey MAN I like HOW YOU randomly CAPTILIZE words, it REALLY makes your posts LESS ANNOYING to read. Thanks for DOING that I APPRECIATE it! IT also makes me TAKE your posts much more SEROUSLY

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Highdragonslayer wrote...

Suron wrote...

...why can't we call him out/**** at him over it?

now I can see a carebear, I mean paragon, Shepard not bringing it up..but Renegade?

Screw you Joker..if your ****** had evacuated and gotten into an escape pod..guess what...I WOULD'NT HAVE BEEN SPACED...I WOULDN'T HAVE DIED.

YOU CAUSED MY DEATH by being a MORON.

now...honestly..my "canon" shepard..for myself...is a paragon..a goody goody...so he doesn't necessarily blame Joker...though if it was me I'd tease him about it in a joking but not joking kind of way...

however in my Renegade playthrough...I don't see how I don't have the option of downright ****ing him out and throwing in his FACE how my death was HIS fault...and if not refusing to let him back on MY ship at LEAST telling him that if he so much as blinks after I give him an order I'm putting a vent in his forehead with my rifle.


Hey MAN I like HOW YOU randomly CAPTILIZE words, it REALLY makes your posts LESS ANNOYING to read. Thanks for DOING that I APPRECIATE it! IT also makes me TAKE your posts much more SEROUSLY

A temporary setback on post originated from Suron thread 5579. Re-routing correction of excessive capitalization use to subject signature 7010. Subject name is Highdragonslayer.

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#30
Dave the Seagull

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This is all Joker's fault! What a tool he was! I have to compute Pi all day because he plugged in the overlord!

Modifié par Dave the Seagull, 05 mars 2010 - 09:05 .


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Suron wrote...

...why can't we call him out/**** at him over it?

now I can see a carebear, I mean paragon, Shepard not bringing it up..but Renegade?

Screw you Joker..if your ****** had evacuated and gotten into an escape pod..guess what...I WOULD'NT HAVE BEEN SPACED...I WOULDN'T HAVE DIED.

YOU CAUSED MY DEATH by being a MORON.

now...honestly..my "canon" shepard..for myself...is a paragon..a goody goody...so he doesn't necessarily blame Joker...though if it was me I'd tease him about it in a joking but not joking kind of way...

however in my Renegade playthrough...I don't see how I don't have the option of downright ****ing him out and throwing in his FACE how my death was HIS fault...and if not refusing to let him back on MY ship at LEAST telling him that if he so much as blinks after I give him an order I'm putting a vent in his forehead with my rifle.


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*sits in corner crying*

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Post is complete. No other flame posts on board. Securing quote tags and bold colored fonts.

Biotic_Warlock wrote...
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*sits in corner crying*

Message away. Are you feeling well, Jeff?

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Ecael wrote...

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Biotic_Warlock wrote...
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*sits in corner crying*

Message away. Are you feeling well, Jeff?

no.

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SoDaR2008

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Biotic_Warlock wrote...

Ecael wrote...

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Biotic_Warlock wrote...
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*sits in corner crying*

Message away. Are you feeling well, Jeff?

no.


Aww ... did you fracture your thumb on the mute again? Tut, tut!

Modifié par SoDaR2008, 05 mars 2010 - 09:14 .


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Well, at least you can call him a cripple...

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actually, Joker refusing to leave the ship as soonas Shepard hit the abandon ship alarm is at least deriliction of duty, disobeying a lawful order, and at worst, mutiny. he is the helmsman, also known as a "Limo Driver"

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he felt he could buy time or save the ship... people lived because of his actions

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The Governator wrote...

justinnstuff wrote...

Ecael wrote...

Technically speaking, Shepard, it is your own fault that you were ejected through the ship's hull. Mr. Moreau's actions are not uncommon among pilots or ship captains who have become sentimentally attached to their vessel. All other possible crew members had already escaped, implying that his purpose was to ensure the survival of others.

Unfortunately, you did not have the choice of abandoning Mr. Moreau.


True, isn't the captain supposed to go down with the ship? =]


I am not sure that is entirely true.  I thought that the captain is supposed to go down with the ship if the entire crew cannot get off.  As far as I know, Captains are supposed to be the last ones off the ship, but that does not mean dying if there is no one left to save.


Shepard is the captain, Joker is the pilot, if it where an oceanic ship his job would be helmsman.

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Sharn01 wrote...

The Governator wrote...

justinnstuff wrote...

Ecael wrote...

Technically speaking, Shepard, it is your own fault that you were ejected through the ship's hull. Mr. Moreau's actions are not uncommon among pilots or ship captains who have become sentimentally attached to their vessel. All other possible crew members had already escaped, implying that his purpose was to ensure the survival of others.

Unfortunately, you did not have the choice of abandoning Mr. Moreau.


True, isn't the captain supposed to go down with the ship? =]


I am not sure that is entirely true.  I thought that the captain is supposed to go down with the ship if the entire crew cannot get off.  As far as I know, Captains are supposed to be the last ones off the ship, but that does not mean dying if there is no one left to save.


Shepard is the captain, Joker is the pilot, if it where an oceanic ship his job would be helmsman.

IIRC he refers to himself as a helmsman in ME1.

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Actually, Joker probably bought enough time for everyone else to escape by piloting the ship.



So yeah.

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Well, not quite everyone. *jingles the pocketful of dog tags* My Renegade FemShep has a hyuge crush on Joker, so she'd never leave him behind. Drag his butt to the escape pod, yeah. "Well, I wouldn't have broken your arm if you'd gotten up!"



... of course, if it was the Normandy 2, we'd be trying to drag his butt out of EDI's blue box.

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both of them are military men. And It is the duty of the captain to do his best to make sure everyone make it out alive. Regardless of a Reg or a Para, Shepard is a military men thru and thru. Joker did his best as a pilot to save the ship and everyone else.