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[ShamieGTX]

Commander Steve wrote...

guys. isnt it obvious? they were made by the Allsparks evil pyramid shaped brother the NoneFlame, and the final battle in ME3 will be the Transformers versus the Reapers and Optimus Prime and the Autobots will put up a valient fight,but are ultimately no match for the Reapers. Then, when all seems lost, Liberty Prime flys in and blasts those flying red chinese communist lobsters back into dark space, and not even the Reapers' MIRV will be enough to stop him. then the Brotherhood will come in after and declare the galaxy a territory of the Tunnel Snakes.
"Welcome to the Milky Way. Our Motto:' Tunnel Snakes rule." Question answered.

[/facepalm]
The Allspark, Of course! 

[NephilimNexus]

JMKnave wrote...

Schroing wrote...

They were obviously created by an older species.

That's hardly obvious.

It is very obvious.

Since things don't suddenly appear out of nothingness, they must've been created. And since they were created, they must've been created by something that came before them.

Charles Darwin would beg to differ.

[Cra5y Pineapple]

I was thinking this too, possibly a very violent creator, think Davros who built the Daleks in Doctor Who. I imagine that either...

1. He turned himself into a Reaper and commands them.

2. The Reapers rebeled against him and killed him.

3. He has somehow kept himself alive and commands the fleet.

[RedjohnAndsan]

It has occured to me, after Cra5y Pineapple's post above, maybe TIM is the creator of the Reapers.



He took control of Cerberus to try and stop the Reapers coming after him.

[Cra5y Pineapple]

RedjohnAndsan wrote...

It has occured to me, after Cra5y Pineapple's post above, maybe TIM is the creator of the Reapers.

He took control of Cerberus to try and stop the Reapers coming after him.

Just...no. TIM is a human. Heck, there's even a comic coming out about his origins in the first contact war. To think he leads the Reapers could only be thought up by a Cerberus-basher.

No offense lol.

[RedjohnAndsan]

Cra5y Pineapple wrote...

RedjohnAndsan wrote...

It has occured to me, after Cra5y Pineapple's post above, maybe TIM is the creator of the Reapers.

He took control of Cerberus to try and stop the Reapers coming after him.

Just...no. TIM is a human. Heck, there's even a comic coming out about his origins in the first contact war. To think he leads the Reapers could only be thought up by a Cerberus-basher.

No offense lol.

no offense taken.. but in all honesty, could cerberus be involved in the creation of comics? (lol)

If he is human, what is wrong with his eyes? And in all honesty, Saren was Turian, but after a reaper implanted him, he was little more than a robot in a turian suit.

I am not suggesting this is correct, it is pause for thought.

[Missouri Tigers]

I think I may be the only person who believes what they say.  They say they weren't made, they are just forever.  Our minds can't comprehend that, but it's true.

[Destroy Raiden_]

It's like the chicken or the egg in reality one can't exist without the other the repears must have a maker even if they deny it.

[Ferginator]

Impala wrote...

I'll be 100% honest...I'm not too caught up with the mass effect lore. Since the Reapers are a mechanical AI race doesn't that mean that someone created them at one point in time? If i'm totally off base on this feel free to tell me.

well many theories, like mine http://social.biowar...89704/1#3290468, think the reapers built themselves. meaning they were once organic but constant impants and the point of view on evolution made them to decide to make themselves into gud ships. read mine or other forums for theories.

PS mine has both a long and sort version, they top version is the long version and the short version is at the bottom.

[Ferginator]

RedjohnAndsan wrote...

Cra5y Pineapple wrote...

RedjohnAndsan wrote...

It has occured to me, after Cra5y Pineapple's post above, maybe TIM is the creator of the Reapers.

He took control of Cerberus to try and stop the Reapers coming after him.

Just...no. TIM is a human. Heck, there's even a comic coming out about his origins in the first contact war. To think he leads the Reapers could only be thought up by a Cerberus-basher.

No offense lol.

no offense taken.. but in all honesty, could cerberus be involved in the creation of comics? (lol)

If he is human, what is wrong with his eyes? And in all honesty, Saren was Turian, but after a reaper implanted him, he was little more than a robot in a turian suit.

I am not suggesting this is correct, it is pause for thought.

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well we have to find out. i believe he isn't with the reapers but he has the attitude and ego to be corrupted when given poert. as you saw in ME1 all the bizzare and disturbing experiments and also some in ME2 and yet he says its all for the preservation of humanity. I think he will use the base for terrible things just for power once Shepard defeats to Reapers. I let him have the base only cuz i need to find a way to stop the Reapers but after that im giving it to the council if its an option and bringing illusive man to justice for crimes he committed in toruchering and experiment against their wills. also the fact he tried to creat the rachni, the ones that haven't be raised by the queen, who will raise rachni for good reasons, TIM just wants them to control and create armies.

[Ferginator]

Destroy Raiden wrote...

It's like the chicken or the egg in reality one can't exist without the other the repears must have a maker even if they deny it.

I believe the answer is that they are telling the truth. that they actually created themselves. they made massive ships they somehow incorperated themselves into and and reproduce by using they genetic material with another creature that evolves. http://social.biowar...89704/1#3290468

[Ferginator]

Missouri Tigers wrote...

I think I may be the only person who believes what they say.  They say they weren't made, they are just forever.  Our minds can't comprehend that, but it's true.

na man machines are harder to make as you can see we don't have robots watching ourselves. i believe they once where organic and made themselves into "gods". http://social.biowar...89704/1#3290468

[Ferginator]

Cra5y Pineapple wrote...

I was thinking this too, possibly a very violent creator, think Davros who built the Daleks in Doctor Who. I imagine that either...

1. He turned himself into a Reaper and commands them.

2. The Reapers rebeled against him and killed him.

3. He has somehow kept himself alive and commands the fleet.

I go with #1 except that each reaper is individual of each other. "We are each a nation"

[kersley12]

 hey all. a little food for thought. What if the reapers were created in a time warp? maybe its a cerberus creation that accidently is sent back in time? element zero can effect mass and its relation to space time. why not add time travel to the mix?

[featuringdark54]

not mine. this is the answer. 

[FFinfinity1]

I have a personal theory where millions of years ago they were built for the sole purpose of being intelligent war machines by another race to fight for them and they turned against their creator and started the 50,000 year cycle of extinction. Then that theory is a little cliche (Terminator ).

Maybe they were an advanced race themselves and trying to become immortal and the "pinnacle of evolution" thus reapers were created. Look at that one mass effect race that was able to download millions of their race into a giant ship and acted like the matrix where they lived in paradise, maybe the reapers had that technology but were able also to control their ship-like body. Harbinger has a huge ego and act like they are gods so that could be a possibility.

Still don't know why they use humans or other races as reproductive means but i guess well see in ME3

[wilhelm Screamer]

No original reapers remain, the rest do not know who made them, there for they do not remember their own beginning.

[kersley12]

What ever the case may be perhaps that is bioware's next project. they have admitted that although me3 marks the end of Shepard's story they plan to continue with the mass effect universe. i would love to see how the reapers were created

[MatrixTheRenegade]

Reapers could be former organic life that evolved beyond the need of a physical shell (which guarantees nothing other than that you will inevitably perish and your consciousness will cease to be, which is bad) and became data or A.I. or ... well, something "beyond [y]our understanding".

[trip12481]

I've been doing alot of reading around the forums about the origins of the Reapers, and i have a theory on the topic. What if the Reapers are just like the husks or any other Reaper slave but on a massive scale. It would explain a few things about thier behavior if they themselves are indoctronated. Think about it, we know the reapers use sentient beings to make both husks and more reapers. What if the process isn't all that different...after all we dont know what happens to the mind of a husk, maybe the mind is downloaded while the body is converted. If the process is similar just on a larger scale perhaps the Reapers are no more than mindless hollow biengs long ago repurposed by something to reap organic life every so often.

If they were something perhaps similar to a thorian, that had long ago been indoctronated and repurposed it would explain both Sovereign's statements about infinite existence (they have been conditioned to believe that) and thier creation of a human Reaper, after all the first thing the geth did on Eden Prime, after shooting the place up, was make husks (its what they do to create an army for thier purposes)
Perhaps by the end of ME3 we will be feeling bad for the Reapers, having long ago suffered very similarly to the Protheans. It would also be very convient as far as a greater story line for the next few games...After the Reapers are halted by the unstopable Shepard and Company the greatest force the universe has ever known is stiring for the first time in millions of years...and they're comming here! Cue dramatic music and Flashy intro movie

anyway Sorry for the long somewhat rambling post
Let me know what you think

(i posted this in two places, i hope thats cool im kinda new at this)

[capn233]

Big reveal from ME3

Shepard: "My God, the trilobites didn't vanish. They just turned into the Reapers!"

[Hallusinaatti]

Just like the Geth the Reapers were made by someone they overthrew and started to live their own lives. The Reapers just had so sophisticated AI that they developed these theories to frighten their enemies.

Nothing comes without an explanation. NOTHING.

[XxPRYNExX]

 This is what i believe based on the Info given, not all the info is confirmed true... but that doesn't mean it isn't.

1-Soveriegn "says" the were not created (unconfirmed)

2-When they invade, they repurpose the species they find into a reaper(ex: the human reaper shep found), or some sort of slave (collectors and i believe keepers)

3-When talking to soveriegn, he speaks as a collective similar to how legion speaks, but is independent of the other reapers, explained by legion as the future they strive for.

4-Harbinger also says "That which you know as reapers are your salvation through desturction."

Now, the conclusion i came to with this info (assumeing its all true) is that the reapers created themselves. Now let me explain...

I don't believe the reapers were always reapers, but were a galactic civilization themselves, but they went further than they let current civilization go and found a way to become immortal, to become reapers. They combinded themselves into a reaper vessal and that is where the collective speach is from. That would explain how they have no creator, why Harbinger says they are salvation, indicating that they wish to save them, and possibly why they want shepered alive. They might believe he is the greatest of the race and want him in prime control of the human reaper.

So this is my theory, they created themselves to become immortal and that they believe they are "saving" sentient life from the eternal slumber of death. Any species that can't become reapers for some reason, (protheans & keepers) are still repurposed to something usefull. Cold, calculating, self-rightous.

[d1sciple]

XxPRYNExX wrote...

 This is what i believe based on the Info given, not all the info is confirmed true... but that doesn't mean it isn't.

1-Soveriegn "says" the were not created (unconfirmed)

2-When they invade, they repurpose the species they find into a reaper(ex: the human reaper shep found), or some sort of slave (collectors and i believe keepers)

3-When talking to soveriegn, he speaks as a collective similar to how legion speaks, but is independent of the other reapers, explained by legion as the future they strive for.

4-Harbinger also says "That which you know as reapers are your salvation through desturction."

Now, the conclusion i came to with this info (assumeing its all true) is that the reapers created themselves. Now let me explain...

I don't believe the reapers were always reapers, but were a galactic civilization themselves, but they went further than they let current civilization go and found a way to become immortal, to become reapers. They combinded themselves into a reaper vessal and that is where the collective speach is from. That would explain how they have no creator, why Harbinger says they are salvation, indicating that they wish to save them, and possibly why they want shepered alive. They might believe he is the greatest of the race and want him in prime control of the human reaper.

So this is my theory, they created themselves to become immortal and that they believe they are "saving" sentient life from the eternal slumber of death. Any species that can't become reapers for some reason, (protheans & keepers) are still repurposed to something usefull. Cold, calculating, self-rightous.

but there's a real, menacing hate directed at organics and an utter disdain for sentient life for that to be the case. they have no mercy, and that goes against the idea of a race hellbent on ascending us whether we like it or not.
if they were omnipotent they would not have worked behind the scenes in the shadows and if they were benevolent Saren would not of had his epiphany nor would Harby of treated the Collectors like it did.
they're also evolving through each cycle, this shows us that they actually need organics for their own purposes, not for ours.

[Yvell]

You know, I actually prefer the theory that the first reapers were made by the races themselves. Look at how the baby-reaper was made. The human-smoothie makers? Well, perhaps the original race the reapers were made from faced extinction. They must have been very advanced in tech and, rather than fading away into obscurity, they decided to 'save' their genetics and make themselves into the 'reapers'.

Now, how they went from there to genocide, I dunno. But think of what Harbinger says. "We are your salvation through destruction." Perhaps they eventually came to the consensus that the most powerful of races in each cycle will become new reapers, taking out what they deem an illusion of choice and making them into reapers as well. But, it's just a theory that I've heard, so...yes, speculation. *Nods softly*