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[AdamBoozer]

Motives for harvesting all galatic civilization.

We know they do it to reproduce but what if that's just what they do to replace there dead or if they feel a species is worthy.

But the extra they must use to replace dead organic tissue on there "body". We know they use organics because of me2. Idk I just thought of this so im kinda posting so I don't forget and see what you guys think.

[Captain Crash]

Well one reason they would reproduce I guess would be to maintain their numbers. After all Sovereign was destroyed and you do find the dormant Reaper also. Machine logic would be that each unit has a task in the conquest role. If one is destroyed they are less efficient so to improve their efficiency back to 100% they need a new unit.



The alternative question is do they increase their numbers regardless of this? After all we see thousands of Reapers at the end of ME2 so the loss of two seems like it wouldnt impact their overall strategy at all.

[AdamBoozer]

avoiding what the revelation was . . . Don't care about reproduction it's the replacing dead tissue part that interest me.

[Captain Crash]

Well when you get genetic matter down to a certain level its all amino acids. That then can be in theory redeveloped to replace anything that was lost. Therefore you can have an endless supply of new tissue replacing dead tissue.

[Hag001]

Prolly a dumb question..... but if TIM was able to find the derelict reaper, why couldn't Sovereign? Wouldn't he want to repair him? Couldn't he use an ally for his grand plan? 2 is always better than one. There wouldn't be a need for a human reaper or reproduction until after the reaper invasion.

[Captain Crash]

TIM apparently found the derelict Reaper by luck. According to the conversation you have with prior to the IFF mission he was looking for the mass accelerator which caused a massive gauge in a planet. Plotting the intended flight plan he found the Reaper in the Brown Dwarf, emitting no signals but emitting enough power to keep it in a stable orbit. The Reaper was taken out as a last desperate plan by a doomed civilisation which at least wanted to take one of their destructor's with them in a sense of pride.



Clearly Sovereign couldn't pick this up weak signal being emitted.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Maybe the Organic/Machine hybrid goes deeper than we think and you can never truly repair a dead Reaper (only re-purpose some of its programs and parts)



Looks like they'll need a Reaper Revolution

[Scharfschutzen]

AdamBoozer wrote...

Motives for harvesting all galatic civilization.

We know they do it to reproduce but what if that's just what they do to replace there dead or if they feel a species is worthy.

But the extra they must use to replace dead organic tissue on there "body". We know they use organics because of me2. Idk I just thought of this so im kinda posting so I don't forget and see what you guys think.

The fact that the reapers specifically targeted humans suggests that they do select species based on their presumed merits before they reproduce with them.   I don't think that there are any organic components in reaper's.  

[thepiebaker]

they may need to be using the genetic material from the galaxy as a source of food. and to be efficient at it they conduct galactic genocide leaving just enough alive to allow life to continue and they go into hibernation for 50,000 years and do so all over again

[Scharfschutzen]

thepiebaker wrote...

they may need to be using the genetic material from the galaxy as a source of food. and to be efficient at it they conduct galactic genocide leaving just enough alive to allow life to continue and they go into hibernation for 50,000 years and do so all over again

They were using the genes just to reproduce, or so I thought.  

[Sigma Tauri]

Modifié par monkeycamoran, 03 mars 2011 - 07:36 .

[AdamBoozer]

Don't think you guts understand what replacing the tissue means. That means the part that would be us is replaced. if it is not they die. or at least the organic part.

[Sigma Tauri]

Modifié par monkeycamoran, 03 mars 2011 - 07:42 .

[Weskerr]

AdamBoozer wrote...

Motives for harvesting all galatic civilization.

We know they do it to reproduce but what if that's just what they do to replace there dead or if they feel a species is worthy.

But the extra they must use to replace dead organic tissue on there "body". We know they use organics because of me2. Idk I just thought of this so im kinda posting so I don't forget and see what you guys think.

Why aren't you posting this in your "Official Theories" thread?

[Kenshen]

AdamBoozer wrote...

Don't think you guts understand what replacing the tissue means. That means the part that would be us is replaced. if it is not they die. or at least the organic part.

I was watching this show once about some frog that lives in the artic that actually freezes solid in the winter and thaws out in the summer.  It can do this because this frog is able to recycle its own cells.  The problem with humans and pretty much every other spieces we know is that once a cell becomes something (heart, lung..etc) that cell never changes and will age and die some day.  But this frog is different it can "reprogram" its cells and it rebuilds itself.  I kind of figured reapers work much the same way.

[Captain Crash]

monkeycamoran wrote...

Captain Crash wrote...

Well when you get genetic matter down to a certain level its all amino acids. That then can be in theory redeveloped to replace anything that was lost. Therefore you can have an endless supply of new tissue replacing dead tissue.

For a super advanced race, it's ridiculous that they need amino acids when they can be synthesized.

Exactly.    Thats why it makes it curious the collectors chose humans over Asari/Hanar/Turians ect as the reproduction choice.  After all were all biomass. It has to mean that there is something at humans genetic level which makes them a preference over the other species in the Galaxy.     

I think these questions are primary to the original question here. Firstly why do they need genetic tissue in the first place?   Secondly what makes humans so special?

After we establish the possible answers to these questions we can answer the OP question of how can the reapers replace the lost or damaged tissue.   No offense to the topic starter but he is asking a question which cant be answered just yet.

The game begins to touch on it.  Mordin praises humans unique diversity and how they can be a control species.  Omega certifies this with the plague.    However there is a underlying thing in human tissue which has attracted the Reapers which we can only speculate about.

[AdamBoozer]

Weskerr wrote...

AdamBoozer wrote...

Motives for harvesting all galatic civilization.

We know they do it to reproduce but what if that's just what they do to replace there dead or if they feel a species is worthy.

But the extra they must use to replace dead organic tissue on there "body". We know they use organics because of me2. Idk I just thought of this so im kinda posting so I don't forget and see what you guys think.

Why aren't you posting this in your "Official Theories" thread?

Why should I? Got clogged up by one guy ranting about how dis is not proof, half of the ideas were crap, and the ones that had some merit didn't post any sources so they just pulled it out of there ass and tryed to pass it off as true, id say maybe 4 or 5 were actually good. Really anoying.

I will find out there motives on my own, only one who seems interested in a speces who has erases millions of civilzations greater then us, old enough to answer every question you might have. In a way the milkyway is theirs and they are god. Casting us where we want and then sending us to "heaven". Such things should be admired and studied. What sort of mind could come up with such a thing, why are we worth adding to their impressive and very elite group.

[AdamBoozer]

aryon69 wrote...

AdamBoozer wrote...

Don't think you guts understand what replacing the tissue means. That means the part that would be us is replaced. if it is not they die. or at least the organic part.

I was watching this show once about some frog that lives in the artic that actually freezes solid in the winter and thaws out in the summer.  It can do this because this frog is able to recycle its own cells.  The problem with humans and pretty much every other spieces we know is that once a cell becomes something (heart, lung..etc) that cell never changes and will age and die some day.  But this frog is different it can "reprogram" its cells and it rebuilds itself.  I kind of figured reapers work much the same way.

Brillant. More probable then what I said. But I wonder if that means they alter it.

BTW guys they don't just make organics because they only want some worth to adding. Things they can improve themselves with. If they just cloned organic parts then they wouldn't need to be "reapers".

[Reptilian Rob]

Because they can?

[Wild Still]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Because they can?

Sir, I like the cut of your jib!

[AdamBoozer]

Captain Crash wrote...

monkeycamoran wrote...

Captain Crash wrote...



Well when you get genetic matter down to a certain level its all amino acids. That then can be in theory redeveloped to replace anything that was lost. Therefore you can have an endless supply of new tissue replacing dead tissue.

For a super advanced race, it's ridiculous that they need amino acids when they can be synthesized.

Exactly. Thats why it makes it curious the collectors chose humans over Asari/Hanar/Turians ect as the reproduction choice. After all were all biomass. It has to mean that there is something at humans genetic level which makes them a preference over the other species in the Galaxy.



I think these questions are primary to the original question here. Firstly why do they need genetic tissue in the first place? Secondly what makes humans so special?



After we establish the possible answers to these questions we can answer the OP question of how can the reapers replace the lost or damaged tissue. No offense to the topic starter but he is asking a question which cant be answered just yet.



The game begins to touch on it. Mordin praises humans unique diversity and how they can be a control species. Omega certifies this with the plague. However there is a underlying thing in human tissue which has attracted the Reapers which we can only speculate about.

Well already answered the part about why us sort of. We are the greatest race right now. We are genticly diverse we can be put into almost any system and still work. (husk were experements by the collectors trying to make a reaper.) Since we are so diverse they were able to make a reaper. It makes since we are easily manipulated on the gentic level for them. But anyway. . . The collectors tried useing all of the races they could find but we were the ones that worked the best for it.



Why do they need organics? Kinda simple actually. Organics can do things computers and wires could never do. We are random our erros are unpredectable and we strive to survive. We have memorys and feelings. The reapers saw the advantage of either having machine parts or organic parts and incorportated them into themselves.



It can be answered. All questions can be answered.

[davetheboy]

In the entire history of warfare, commanders that acted like machines, were calculating, ruthless and unfeeling, were the ones who won the wars. We can only speculate about capabilities an AI would have. All we have right now is imagination of human beings, reality might be far from it.