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Is Shepard in the Marines or the Navy?


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The Shepard I noticed this detail on was a she, so he is correct. :P



For those of you bickering at him about the usage of the American Navy/Marine rank comparisons, it's in the ME1 Codex. I'm sure you can find it somewhere on the Mass Effect Wiki. I DO like the sound of Major Shepard, though. I'm such a Ghost in the Shell fanboy.

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gmartin40 wrote...

Revenant_Mortalus wrote...

 Shepard's not N7, it's not an organization - it's a training program.  the "N" designates special forces, and the "7" designates the highest level of proficiency.
As for the Marines/Navy question, it's both.  The Systems Alliance is a coalition government headed by the 18 largest nations of earth.  It stands to reason that the Systems Alliance Military would have a completely new structure.
The Mass Effect Wiki states the following - 
   The Alliance Navy is the branch of the Systems Alliance military responsible for naval operations. The Alliance Marines, the ground operations branch of the Alliance military, are a specialized branch of the Navy.


Thank you. Issue over.


Did everyone miss this or something???

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lol I dont care he or she you know who im talking about.....

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Sikayda wrote...

Always liked the sound of Major Sheperd over Commander Sheperd.

Mabey its just because i'm a Ghost In the Shell fan.Posted Image

I just noticed this after I made my post. Right on.

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^^Well most go by he. You are the first I have seen to go by she. You should take it as a compliment.

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gmartin40 wrote...

gmartin40 wrote...

Revenant_Mortalus wrote...

 Shepard's not N7, it's not an organization - it's a training program.  the "N" designates special forces, and the "7" designates the highest level of proficiency.
As for the Marines/Navy question, it's both.  The Systems Alliance is a coalition government headed by the 18 largest nations of earth.  It stands to reason that the Systems Alliance Military would have a completely new structure.
The Mass Effect Wiki states the following - 
   The Alliance Navy is the branch of the Systems Alliance military responsible for naval operations. The Alliance Marines, the ground operations branch of the Alliance military, are a specialized branch of the Navy.


Thank you. Issue over.


Did everyone miss this or something???



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FlyingWalrus wrote...

Sikayda wrote...

Always liked the sound of Major Sheperd over Commander Sheperd.

Mabey its just because i'm a Ghost In the Shell fan.Posted Image

I just noticed this after I made my post. Right on.

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gmartin40 wrote...

gmartin40 wrote...

gmartin40 wrote...

Revenant_Mortalus wrote...

 Shepard's not N7, it's not an organization - it's a training program.  the "N" designates special forces, and the "7" designates the highest level of proficiency.
As for the Marines/Navy question, it's both.  The Systems Alliance is a coalition government headed by the 18 largest nations of earth.  It stands to reason that the Systems Alliance Military would have a completely new structure.
The Mass Effect Wiki states the following - 
   The Alliance Navy is the branch of the Systems Alliance military responsible for naval operations. The Alliance Marines, the ground operations branch of the Alliance military, are a specialized branch of the Navy.


Thank you. Issue over.


Did everyone miss this or something???


From the wiki:

The divide between naval personnel and ground forces ("marines") is small. Ground units are a specialized branch of the fleet, just as fighter squadrons are. This unity of command is imposed by the futility of fighting without control of orbit; without the navy, any army is pointless. The marines, as a matter of pride, maintain some of their traditional rank titles; for example, marines have Privates and Corporals instead of Servicemen.

Seeing as Shep is usually fighting on ground, I think it would be safe to classify him as a Marine. However, in the Mass Effect series, the Marines are a part of the Navy. So he's both.

They do not use the same military structure as us, so it's a bit futile to try to force that on it.

At least that's what I gathered from reading the wiki.

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gmartin40 wrote...

gmartin40 wrote...

Revenant_Mortalus wrote...

 Shepard's not N7, it's not an organization - it's a training program.  the "N" designates special forces, and the "7" designates the highest level of proficiency.
As for the Marines/Navy question, it's both.  The Systems Alliance is a coalition government headed by the 18 largest nations of earth.  It stands to reason that the Systems Alliance Military would have a completely new structure.
The Mass Effect Wiki states the following - 
   The Alliance Navy is the branch of the Systems Alliance military responsible for naval operations. The Alliance Marines, the ground operations branch of the Alliance military, are a specialized branch of the Navy.


Thank you. Issue over.


Did everyone miss this or something???


You can say that all you like, but you lack the right or power to keep others from having a discussion.  *shrugs*

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If I recall correctly the reason its Commander Shepard and not Major is because they wanted to honor the original Commander Shepard (now Admiral RIP) Alan B Shepard first American in space, fifth man to walk on the moon.

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ME1, Shepard to Nihlus: I'm a marine, not some tourist on vacation.

There you go.

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Marines don't command ships... There for he/she is Navy!

Anyway Marines stands for... My **** Rides In Navy Equipment Sir!

Modifié par Jagri, 06 mars 2010 - 05:29 .


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shepard says it in the game hes alliance navy

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He's just a glorified cook now. :)

He's not even in the Alliance any longer.

Modifié par luk3us, 06 mars 2010 - 05:32 .


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luk3us wrote...

He's just a glorified cook now. :)

He's not even in the Alliance any longer.


Shepard's also Special Forces... which means you're comparing Shepard to a certain ship's cook played by Steven Seagal..

*facepalm*

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I was thinking about that movie.. Under Siege?

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But Commander Shepard sounds so much more BDMF. It makes him sound like he could whoop somebody like MC in a heartbeat.



-Uses Overload to disable chief's shields and then finishes him off with several slams and a heavy warp.-

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gmartin40 wrote...

FlyingWalrus wrote...

The very first entry of your journal calls you in ME1 Lt. Commander Shepard. So... a Navy Marine?


No, Lt. Commander is Navy. So this proves he is navy. Most likely a Navy corpsman since they fight too.


most likely not a Corpsman since Corpsman are medics

Modifié par BS Veyron, 06 mars 2010 - 05:52 .


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I wonder why Shepard didn't get promoted in rank after saving the Citadel?

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Yeah... Like Ash did. You know, I always wondered how in hell Shepard got to command a ship when he's just a marine. I guess suspension of disbelief comes in here guys. He's a Marine and Navy. And he's a SPECTRE. What I don't get is, how come Captain Anderson has the same number of bars on his uniform as Rear Admiral Michailavich? Sorry about the spelling there.

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Well, shes not with Allianse any longer, she is a SPECTRE.

Modifié par Mossa_missa, 06 mars 2010 - 02:13 .


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rwilli80 wrote...

If I recall correctly the reason its Commander Shepard and not Major is because they wanted to honor the original Commander Shepard (now Admiral RIP) Alan B Shepard first American in space, fifth man to walk on the moon.

Interesting, did not know that.

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Yeah that has always kinda bothered me, seeing as i am a marine, but its not the US military, its the Alliance....



and as for why he didnt get promoted after saving the citadel like ashley did, goes back to the whole, ah yes, "reapers" thing imo. they tried to portray him as delusional, so why promote someone who is crazy?

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kaff33nd wrote...

Yeah... Like Ash did. You know, I always wondered how in hell Shepard got to command a ship when he's just a marine. I guess suspension of disbelief comes in here guys. He's a Marine and Navy. And he's a SPECTRE. What I don't get is, how come Captain Anderson has the same number of bars on his uniform as Rear Admiral Michailavich? Sorry about the spelling there.

Because it's cheaper to just reuse a uniform texture than to create a brand new one for a character we only see once. Lame, but there it is.

As for Shepard not being promoted after the Battle of the Citadel--he was no longer a soldier in the Alliance Military once he became a Spectre, so he couldn't have been promoted. If he still had been with the Alliance, and gotten a promotion, he would have gone from Lieutenant Commander to Staff Commander, so he still would have been "Commander Shepard."

Modifié par Randy1083, 07 mars 2010 - 03:54 .


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USMCTanker wrote...

and as for why he didnt get promoted after saving the citadel like ashley did, goes back to the whole, ah yes, "reapers" thing imo. they tried to portray him as delusional, so why promote someone who is crazy?


Probably also has to do with the fact that Shepard died within a month of saving the Citadel.  Ashley (or Kaidan!!!) was promoted in the two years between the ME2 intro and "waking up"