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[AzraelKane]

In game an NPC mentions that if the Arl dies, then the Bannon will take his place... I have tried EVERYTHING I can think of, but no luck so far... Is it truly possible to let the Arl die? or was this just idle chatter?

[Thalorin1919]

AzraelKane wrote...

In game an NPC mentions that if the Arl dies, then the Bannon will take his place... I have tried EVERYTHING I can think of, but no luck so far... Is it truly possible to let the Arl die? or was this just idle chatter?

You cant kill the Arl. The only way Bann Teagan will became the Arl of Redcliffe is if Alistair becomes King so that Eamon will go and advise him, and then have Teagan become the new arl.

[AzraelKane]

Well darn... so much for being a totally evil character what good is poisoning the ashes, slaughtering the Dalish, saving the Anvil, and murdering the innocent mages to get the templars if you cant kill the Arl too??? Grins

[pudi0072000]

Sadly, but you can take solace in killing Connor and knowing that Isolde will die later in the epilogue. >

[Fycan]

AzraelKane wrote...
In game an NPC mentions that if the Arl dies, then the Bannon will take his place... I have tried EVERYTHING I can think of, but no luck so far... Is it truly possible to let the Arl die? or was this just idle chatter?

There has been a claim of killing Bhelen out of combat by using Flame Blast, Cone of Cold, & Shock in this order using a mage with very high Magic. However, the game will not recognize this and cause the Quest to break, if you have chosen to do the Bhelen's deed's line - since you cannot return your quest to a dead person who also dropped loot.

You could try it with the Arl if you wish.

[Eudaemonium]

Unfortunately, the game automatically makes you take a pinch if you haven't already done so when you poison the ashes.

[Eudaemonium]

Most people don't - I mean, you'd only do it if you were deliberately trying to not save the Arl. Anyone who does, of course, is sorely disappointed. I wish I could kill Eamon.

[Elanareon]

There is a way for him to die with one of the postcards endings. But you won;t see it though...

[Elanareon]

SPOILER







Sacrifice Isolde and give the kid to the demon. And Eamon will die.

[Sable Rhapsody]

pudi0072000 wrote...
Sadly, but you can take solace in killing Connor and knowing that Isolde will die later in the epilogue. >

O.O

So I'd feel terrible killing a kid.  But getting to punch out Isolde, AND killing her in the epilogue?!  Connor, you got a big red target on your back now.  Nothing personal 

[Bratt1204]

Elanareon wrote...

SPOILER



Sacrifice Isolde and give the kid to the demon. And Eamon will die.

Have you played this out already? Eamon dies right away or at endgame? If so, I would like to try it but want to do it correctly. Please explain exactly how its done again.

Modifié par Bratt1204, 06 mars 2010 - 02:44 .

[AzraelKane]

Ive done everything you can with the demon- pleasure, love of party member, blood majik, give connor to her, etc... maybe im missing something, but every time i return from the fade, i still am forced to follow the ashes quest to save the damned Arl to continue to the landsmeet all the more reason for me to want him dead!!!!! Maybe the new expansion will make it possible to polay white grey or dark characters more fully

[Sable Rhapsody]

AzraelKane wrote...

Ive done everything you can with the demon- pleasure, love of party member, blood majik, give connor to her, etc... maybe im missing something, but every time i return from the fade, i still am forced to follow the ashes quest to save the damned Arl to continue to the landsmeet all the more reason for me to want him dead!!!!! Maybe the new expansion will make it possible to polay white grey or dark characters more fully

Eamon is immune in-game to death.  You need him for the Landsmeet, though it looks like people here report he can die in the epilogue if you really screw him over.  I was of two minds on Arl Eamon, which probably had to do with the character I was RPing.  My human mage thought he was a jerk--a necessary, politically connected and savvy jerk who really did care about his people and country, but an ass who saw her beloved Alistair as nothing but a pawn.

And personally, I think for all its advertising as "dark" and "gritty," DA:O has surprisingly few difficult or murky moral decisions.  Most of them are towards the endgame.  In 60 hours of gameplay in DA:O, I found myself saying "hmm" at just three decisions: Bhelen and Harrowmont, for a PC with no connections to Orzammar, the Landsmeet, and Morrigan's ritual.  The bulk of the choices in DA:O have a clear-cut "good" and "jerkass" choice, with maybe one or two more in between if you're lucky.  Not to say that the "jerkass" choices like leaving Redcliffe to burn can't be JUSTIFIED, but they're distinctly less good on a standard sliding moral scale.

I still think Obsidian does twisted grey morality better.  Just look at the difference between KOTOR and KOTOR2.  In KOTOR, evil felt just plain thuggish for a lot of the game.  In KOTOR2, the differences could be very subtle, probably due to Kreia, who's one of my favorite video game characters ever.

[AzraelKane]

Ok... so who is Obsidian? and where is Kotor and Kotor 2?? no mention of any of these in the DAO guidebook or ingame??? Hate to think I missed a key twist or side quest somewhere!

Can you tell me how to find these people/places ingame? thanks

[Cuthlan]

Your characters look really cold.

[Sabriana]

Obsidian = game developers, a company just like BioWare. They also put out NWN2 and exp

KotoR (1&2) = video games, developed by Obsidian



I think the poster only meant to compare, Obsidian and/or KotOR have nothing to do with DA:O

[AzraelKane]

lol- never claimed to be a smart one As for cold character... hmmm not sure why she looks that way to be honest... shes dressed ingame

[Ariella]

Sabriana wrote...

Obsidian = game developers, a company just like BioWare. They also put out NWN2 and exp
KotoR (1&2) = video games, developed by Obsidian

I think the poster only meant to compare, Obsidian and/or KotOR have nothing to do with DA:O

Kotor 1 is Bioware
Kotor 2 is Obsidian

Obsidian is the "child" of Black Isle (game publisher that worked with Bioware on Baldur's Gate 1-2 devel;oped IWD 1-2 using the Bioware engine)

[AzraelKane]

Just for the record- really wasnt trying to be a smartass really didnt know she was talking about a dif game lol