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[Bob5312]

Regardless of whether you took the paragon or renegade route, Shepard has seen and done some things that would be very stressful at the time and very difficult to live with afterwards.  Posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD) is the extreme manifestation of a psychological stress injury, something that soldiers often deal with after combat. 

PTSD has symptoms like difficulty sleeping, nightmares, and flashbacks, and I would be interested to see Commander Shepard experience some of these during the next game.  For example: playing through a nightmare sequence in which Shepard races through the Normandy fighting the Collectors and attempting to save his crew, but ultimately failing and watching them die one by one, only to have their corpses cry out, blaming him for his inability to protect them.  Finally, he watches his love interest from ME2 die, melting slowly in a collector pod.  He finally relives his own death as the ship explodes and he is hurled into space.

He awakens in his stateroom on the Normandy.  Then, periodically throughout the game, he experiences flashbacks and further playable nightmare sequences between missions.  These can be skipped by having Shepard drink himself unconscious rather than falling asleep normally, at a penalty to his performance in combat.

The cycle can be ended by having Shepard either enter counselling with Kelly or seeing Dr. Chakwas for medication.

I think that this would be an interesting way of developing Shepard's character futher; after all of the loyalty missions and conversations with the crew we know more about them than about Shepard, whose character development has so far been limited to choosing paragon/renegade options.  It would also display the darker side of prolonged exposure to the stress of combat.

[vdeity]

Nah.

Next idea.

[FlyingWalrus]

One word:



Akuze.

[Rodriguer2000]

the Blitz?

[Deflagratio]

As someone living with PTSD I can say it's not a game, keep it out.

The Memories of seeing Kazaam in theaters haunts me to this day. The Nightmares will never stop.

Modifié par Deflagratio, 06 mars 2010 - 06:08 .

[Rodriguer2000]

Deflagratio wrote...

As someone living with PTSD I can say it's not a game, keep it out.

The Memories of seeing Kazaam in theaters haunts me to this day. The Nightmares will never stop.

haha thats funny. Is kazaam that bad? Ive never seen it i remember seeing the box cover when i was a little kid

[awpdevil]

I think I am going to go with Jessi Ventura's line in predator. I ain't got time to bleed.

[Terror_K]

I have to say, I was actually expecting to see more cases in ME2 of things getting to Shepard, just because it was the dark second act of the trilogy. It would have been cool to see a few scenes now and then where upon returning to The Normandy we see Shepard in his/her quarters looking a bit stressed out and then Kelly comes in and says she's noticed and wants to talk with you about it, etc.

[Dark Glasses]

Hopefully some dream sequences or flashbacks are present in ME3.

[thegreateski]

Doubt it.

[Mavkiel]

I always just assumed my character deals with by getting drunk at every bar she comes across.

[WrexShepard]

Kelly definitely has PTSD. Shepard's too hardcore for that though. If he was going to have PTSD, he'd already have it from those prothean visions.

[Ogrek]

Two words: Skyllian Blitz.

[Bob5312]

WrexShepard wrote...

Kelly definitely has PTSD. Shepard's too hardcore for that though. If he was going to have PTSD, he'd already have it from those prothean visions.

There is no such thing as 'too hardcore for PTSD'.  There is no way of knowing whom it will affect, or when.  It is this attitude that prevents people seeking proper treatment: they think that admitting they have a problem is the same as admitting that they aren't tough enough, that they're weak.  So they drink, grow distant from their families and friends, and their personal lives collapse. 

At present, the military has a suicide rate and a rate of clinical depression that are double the national average.

Shepard may be tough, but he is still human after all.

Modifié par Bob5312, 06 mars 2010 - 06:52 .

[huddini]

I disagree, I wouldn't mind seeing it what it would be like, hes not like some cybernetic robot of sorts.





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[Inarai]

Cardial Joe wrote...

Bob5312 wrote...

WrexShepard wrote...

Kelly definitely has PTSD. Shepard's too hardcore for that though. If he was going to have PTSD, he'd already have it from those prothean visions.

There is no such thing as 'too hardcore for PTSD'.  There is no way of knowing whom it will affect, or when.  It is this attitude that prevents people seeking proper treatment: they think that admitting they have a problem is the same as admitting that they aren't tough enough, that they're weak.  So they drink, grow distant from their families and friends, and their personal lives collapse. 

At present, the military has a suicide rate and a rate of clinical depression that are double the national average.

Shepard may be tough, but he is still human after all.

This.

I agree with the idea... But I really wouldn't want to see it with Shepard. I mean, sure... He's gone through a lot. A helluva lot. But I just don't think it's something gamers want to see, especially those kinda 'connected' with their Shepard [much like myself].

That should only make it better - seeing a character go through trouble works only when there is that connection.  Otherwise, it just falls flat.

[luk3us]

This is an action game, no time for self pitty.

[baller7345]

luk3us wrote...

This is an action game, no time for self pitty.

Correction, it is still an RPG and RPG's have a way of delving players into characters so I wouldn't be too suprised if they did something like this.  I wouldn't expect it to be something that would come up more than once and I could see it providing a really cool turtorial mission.

[Jalem001]

Shepard can't get too PTSD. Too much awesome.

[BatarianBob]

Probably no PTSD, but I wouldn't mind playing a flashback of Akuze/Elysium/Torfan.

[Terror_K]

Yeah. It would be good to see some weakness to Shepard now and then. See some of the weight he or she is carrying on his/her shoulders having a bit of an impact, if only slightly. If Shepard is too easy-going and care-free about everything, it trivialises the situation(s). A bit like if in Lord of the Rings Frodo had got to Mount Doom without The One Ring effecting him at all. Sure, Shepard must still remain strong and not let things get to him/her, but we should at least see that things are tough for him/her. It gives weight to the issues to see that Commander Shepard is effected by them, even if he/she doesn't let it get to them.

[Grizzly46]

Shepard could have any forms of weaknesses, so I don't understand why he should suffer from PTSD of all things? One thing you can have him suffer from is acute dumbness if you pick the right conversation options...

[Retsugi]

luk3us wrote...

This is an action game, no time for self pitty.

And this ladies and gentlemen is the perfect example as to why ME2 is how it is.


That aside, I'm on the fence with this idea as I do like the depth it would add but at the same time it sort of works against my shepard.

I've always thought of Shepard as someone who has been to hell and back and has already dealt with his demons or merely has no more tears left to shed.
Which gives him the strength to cope with all the events that go on throughout Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2.

[guise709]

whether you get ptsd should be dependant on the choices you make and whether your paragon or renegade. choices like who died in the suicide mission sticks out in particular. with that being said i think there shouldn't be no ptsd events as shepard is a natural born leader and he doesnt have time to mourn and sorrow he has a job to do. naturally if there will be any time he does have these sort of disorders it will be after he has dealt with the reaper threat which i doubt the devs will explore that deep into it and allow the player to draw out their own conclusions on what happens to him after he retires.



another thing worth noting is that as far as i can tell shepard never seemed to feel any regret for the choices he makes either that or i dont remember him saying anything in any cutscenes. he would say something along the lines of "it was a tough decision but i did what i had to do". this means he has a clear conscience which likely effect his psyche in a way that wont give him nightmares over the things he has done.