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Bigdoser wrote...

Man i suck at this stuff still trying to find that highlighted area >_<

I posted a save file for a default FemShepard in the 5th post of this thread, if you can't get it to work.

You can probably use the Save Game Editor to change just about anything else to your liking.

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Thanks! Oh yeah i actually got it to work at last i just wanna say thanks for doing this!

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Bigdoser wrote...

I changed the 00 to 03 but it still did not work.
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I think you messed up your image linking there...

Try imageshack.com?

Thanks! Oh yeah i actually got it to work at last i just wanna say thanks for doing this!

No problem. I'm pretty close to finding a solution for the Legion-IFF problem.

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This does work. Great find. I'd still like to hear some more experiences. Are there any known problems?

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bjdbwea wrote...

This does work. Great find. I'd still like to hear some more experiences. Are there any known problems?

I'm working on the Legion-IFF problem - the game skips Horizon and Disabled Collector Vessel if you recruit Legion.

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So if you just leave the IFF mission alone until its normal point in the game, everything else works without known problems?

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bjdbwea wrote...

So if you just leave the IFF mission alone until its normal point in the game, everything else works without known problems?

It should, I believe.

Try recruiting Thane, Samara and Tali with another character and see if Horizon works.

I've just been editing for now, I haven't fully tested all the possibilities.

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Found a way to prevent the Reaper IFF from installing after recruiting Legion, but I couldn't enable Horizon. I thought it was because I didn't recruit Mordin, but that did not work either.

Anyone able to get to Horizon with 3 different characters + Mordin?

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Yeah i just got 3 different characters + Mordin still havent got the horizon mission maybe you have to recurit grunt,jack and garrus to get the mission, i will try this later.

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Bigdoser wrote...

Yeah i just got 3 different characters + Mordin still havent got the horizon mission maybe you have to recurit grunt,jack and garrus to get the mission, i will try this later.

Right now I'm speedrunning different possibilities with a Sentinel with max skills on Casual.

Tech Armor is fun.;)

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Ok, I couldn't get Horizon to work after the Reaper IFF mission no matter what I did in-game, but there is a way to activate it through the hex editor by changing that 03 (in the original post) to 02.

Let me know if you come up with any other problems.

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So does horizon trigger if you get the four dossiers you were supposed to originally?

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Bruno604 wrote...

So does horizon trigger if you get the four dossiers you were supposed to originally?

Only if you don't recruit Legion, it seems, since recruiting him results in the main Collector chain skipping to the Reaper IFF. Otherwise, recruiting the original four should trigger Horizon.

I've been able to hex edit the save file to reset the main Collector chain and activate Horizon with Legion recruited, but now I'm unable to get the Disabled Collector Vessel to trigger.

One more mission to figure out, I guess...

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Worked for me. I saved on the Normandy and when I restored I talked to Kelly. I got the dialogue as if I just returned from the Harbinger, hug and all. Is that mission still available later?

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Ecael wrote...

Bruno604 wrote...

So does horizon trigger if you get the four dossiers you were supposed to originally?

Only if you don't recruit Legion, it seems, since recruiting him results in the main Collector chain skipping to the Reaper IFF. Otherwise, recruiting the original four should trigger Horizon.

I've been able to hex edit the save file to reset the main Collector chain and activate Horizon with Legion recruited, but now I'm unable to get the Disabled Collector Vessel to trigger.

One more mission to figure out, I guess...


I'm interested in trying this, but I'm not sure where things stand at the moment. It would be a good idea to summarize and clarify the current state of the project for those of us that want to jump in. 

As I understand it this is what you've got working so far:

Start the game and play through Freedoms Progress. Once you've got control of the Normandy go ahead and save your game. Use a hex editor to make the change (00-->03) in your save file. Use the Gibbed save editor to open and then re-save the file for compatibility with the game. Start the game again and load the altered save file. You should now have Illium, Haestrom and the Reaper IFF available on the galaxy map. Is this correct?

If it is, what does and doesn't work from this point on? As long as I don't do the IFF mission can I still progress the game normally?

In other words, can I recruit Tali, Thane and Samara while still getting the Horizon and Collector ship missions in the correct order without any further editing?

I don't care about getting Legion early if I can get all of the others without breaking the game.

Thanks for all of the work you've put into this Ecael. If you can answer any or all of the questions I listed I'd be eternally grateful. 

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david46 wrote...

Worked for me. I saved on the Normandy and when I restored I talked to Kelly. I got the dialogue as if I just returned from the Harbinger, hug and all. Is that mission still available later?

Wow, I didn't even think about talking to Kelly to give me a clue on how the change actually affects the game. It seems that the hex edit causes the save file to think that you just got back from the Disabled Collector Vessel (which is probably why I'm having trouble triggering it after Horizon on this save).

I'm interested in trying this, but I'm not sure where things stand at the moment. It would be a good idea to summarize and clarify the current state of the project for those of us that want to jump in. 

As I understand it this is what you've got working so far:

Start the game and play through Freedoms Progress. Once you've got control of the Normandy go ahead and save your game. Use a hex editor to make the change (00-->03) in your save file. Use the Gibbed save editor to open and then re-save the file for compatibility with the game. Start the game again and load the altered save file. You should now have Illium, Haestrom and the Reaper IFF available on the galaxy map. Is this correct?

Correct.

It's difficult for me to summarize it, since I literally just stumbled upon it with no previous hex editing/modding experience. Essentially how I found it in the first place was taking a post-Freedom's Progress save file and a post-Collector Vessel save file and using the save game editor to make every other variable exact - time played, level, etc. (except for the quest log). Then I compared the two files in the hex editor and kept changing each part until I was able to unlock the entire galaxy map. It's a tedious process, I know.

If it is, what does and doesn't work from this point on? As long as I don't do the IFF mission can I still progress the game normally?

In other words, can I recruit Tali, Thane and Samara while still getting the Horizon and Collector ship missions in the correct order without any further editing?

As david46 helped point out, apparently the Disabled Collector Vessel doesn't work because it assumes that you completed it already. Horizon stops triggering if you get the Reaper IFF early as well. However, I'm hoping as more people go through the game with the altered save file, it can point out a problem that I (or we) can try to correct.

For the moment, I'm certain of this:
1. If you don't do the Reaper IFF, regardless of who you recruit beforehand, you can still trigger Horizon by eventually recruiting the original 4.
2. If for some reason Horizon still doesn't trigger, you can edit the save file to change that specific 03 to 02 (which also seems to work). This will lock the galaxy map again, but it allows you to travel back to the original 4 areas.

In my spare time I've been looking for a way to prevent the Reaper IFF from triggering. I've found several spots in the save file that you have to change in order to reset the Stop the Collectors mission back to pre-Horizon (so I can bring Legion to Horizon at this point). However, I can't get the Vessel mission to trigger now.

My ultimate goal is to try to get Legion onto the Disabled Collector Vessel after recruiting him - Legion has dialogue for that mission (he only doesn't have any for Horizon). If I can do that, then I can ultimately make a save file that allows recruitment of any of the 11 characters with normal progression of the game.

Basically, I want to play Mass Effect 2 the way it was supposed to be played before the XBox 360 disc split forced it both versions to become linear.

Modifié par Ecael, 09 mars 2010 - 11:06 .


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Very interesting. I'll follow this thread.... Thanks for the very useful work, Ecael.

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This is kind of stupid as you won't be able to research upgrades, unless you cheat of course, I guess that can work for some people.

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Ecael wrote...

As david46 helped point out, apparently the Disabled Collector Vessel doesn't work because it assumes that you completed it already. Horizon stops triggering if you get the Reaper IFF early as well. However, I'm hoping as more people go through the game with the altered save file, it can point out a problem that I (or we) can try to correct.

For the moment, I'm certain of this:
1. If you don't do the Reaper IFF, regardless of who you recruit beforehand, you can still trigger Horizon by eventually recruiting the original 4.
2. If for some reason Horizon still doesn't trigger, you can edit the save file to change that specific 03 to 02 (which also seems to work). This will lock the galaxy map again, but it allows you to travel back to the original 4 areas.


In my spare time I've been looking for a way to prevent the Reaper IFF from triggering. I've found several spots in the save file that you have to change in order to reset the Stop the Collectors mission back to pre-Horizon (so I can bring Legion to Horizon at this point). However, I can't get the Vessel mission to trigger now.

My ultimate goal is to try to get Legion onto the Disabled Collector Vessel after recruiting him - Legion has dialogue for that mission (he only doesn't have any for Horizon). If I can do that, then I can ultimately make a save file that allows recruitment of any of the 11 characters with normal progression of the game.

Basically, I want to play Mass Effect 2 the way it was supposed to be played before the XBox 360 disc split forced it both versions to become linear.



That's what I really wanted to know. I'll start a fresh game later today and give it a shot. I'm thinking of quickly grabbing Thane, Tali and Samara without completing any other missions or side quests on Illium. I'm hoping not to set any late game flags other than the recruitment missions. Then I'll alter the new save file back to it's original state (03-->00) and see what happens. Hopefully I'll be able to progress the game normally with everyone but Legion on the roster. If everything works out correctly I'll post an update in this thread. Thanks again and good luck with Legion.

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Breakdown Boy wrote...

This is kind of stupid as you won't be able to research upgrades, unless you cheat of course, I guess that can work for some people.

Which upgrades?

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Update: Finally got Legion from the beginning all the way to the end of the game (including Horizon and his dialogue at the Disabled Collector Vessel). It requires a few minor tweaks after each Collector mission, but it's not too bad.

I'll post some pictures of the hex edit and describe it in detail when I get a chance.

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Ecael wrote...

Update: Finally got Legion from the beginning all the way to the end of the game (including Horizon and his dialogue at the Disabled Collector Vessel). It requires a few minor tweaks after each Collector mission, but it's not too bad.

I'll post some pictures of the hex edit and describe it in detail when I get a chance.



That sounds great. I didn't get a chance to start a new game yet so I'll just wait until you post the details. Thanks.

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YES!!!!!!





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STICKY THIS NAO!!!!!!!



OR INCLUDE IT IN THE NEXT PATCH!!!!!!

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IoCaster wrote...

Ecael wrote...

Update: Finally got Legion from the beginning all the way to the end of the game (including Horizon and his dialogue at the Disabled Collector Vessel). It requires a few minor tweaks after each Collector mission, but it's not too bad.

I'll post some pictures of the hex edit and describe it in detail when I get a chance.

That sounds great. I didn't get a chance to start a new game yet so I'll just wait until you post the details. Thanks.

Ok, finally got enough time to sit down and sort through my notes (sorry for the delay everyone!). I've managed to organize all the important parts into one list, but I still need to arrange the important parts themselves and take pictures, so give me about 15 minutes or so. Anyway, these are my rudimentary notes (they won't make any sense, but they will once I get the pictures up):

Prevent IFF Installation - E4 84 0C .. (change the last .. from 01 00)
  -OR Length: A3 after None.E, add E4 84 0C 00
  -Change it back to 01 (regardless of the three things before it) to activate the Reaper IFF, assuming two missions are completed (or complete two missions after changing both values?)
Quest Replacement - 0A 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 (before 0B), near 7E 14 after
Change Original Value of 03 to 02 for Horizon
Change Original Value of 02 to 01 after Horizon
After Collector Vessel, change Quest to 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 05 00 00 00

Modifié par Ecael, 10 mars 2010 - 02:17 .


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UPDATE: Second post of thread now has the complete walkthrough on how to play the full game after recruiting Legion at the derelict Reaper:

http://social.biowar...85456/1#1585461