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[ChampDude]

MassAffected wrote...

ChampDude wrote...

MassAffected wrote...

I wonder, if people are so upset with this game...why do they come to these forums? We need constructive feedback, not childish crying.

Solely to annoy as there is no other possible explanation why someone (who shall remain nameless) would come into forums and only rant about why they don't like it, why the characters are bad, why the game is half-finished, why it isn't an RPG blah blah blah. I just ignore them or don't take them seriously. Works like a charm

Is there an ignore option on these forums? If so I need to know where...because even when I try to ignore the posters I know are here just to **** for the sake of ****ing I still end up reading half their posts while scanning through the topics.

I believe that if you click on their profile there is a "Block" button, but I am not sure what it does. It probably makes it so you can't see their posts. Might be worth a shot

[Onyx Jaguar]

ZennExile wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Suron wrote...

Zemore wrote...

what the hell is it with people and trading in games your actually throwing money at Gamestop you arent coming off the better from that deal they are

I love the stupidity of people that post this.

Trading a game is nets you much less then you paid sure but...if you DON'T PLAY IT ANYMORE..it just sits there...WORTHLESS.

trading it in gives you money off something you'll PLAY..meaning..NOT WORTHLESS....

ah..stupidity..love it.

Or you could do something smart and sell it on Ebay or Amazon

Stupidity is full of love

If you own your own busniess and already have an Ebay Store, then sure.  Otherwise you lose the value of the shipping right off the top (no matter who pays it), AND you always take the chance that whoever ordered it is gonna charge back the purchase and screw you with their internet extendable "HAHA" stick.  It's not a sale big enough to warrent reparations, and unless you have the stability of an Ebay store and the oppertunity costs of ignoring the issue become larger than cutting your losses.

So Ebay is actually the stupidest choice for 99% of the people who could be reading this.

Just sayin.

99% of the time Gamestop trade ins undervalue what you can get on an online marketplace.  An average of 5 dollars on shipping (can be cheaper even) and the ebay royalties still make it a better deal.  maybe not for ME 2 in this instance but for most other instances it would.

[Onyx Jaguar]

ChampDude wrote...

MassAffected wrote...

ChampDude wrote...

MassAffected wrote...

I wonder, if people are so upset with this game...why do they come to these forums? We need constructive feedback, not childish crying.

Solely to annoy as there is no other possible explanation why someone (who shall remain nameless) would come into forums and only rant about why they don't like it, why the characters are bad, why the game is half-finished, why it isn't an RPG blah blah blah. I just ignore them or don't take them seriously. Works like a charm

Is there an ignore option on these forums? If so I need to know where...because even when I try to ignore the posters I know are here just to **** for the sake of ****ing I still end up reading half their posts while scanning through the topics.

I believe that if you click on their profile there is a "Block" button, but I am not sure what it does. It probably makes it so you can't see their posts. Might be worth a shot

Block does nothing, I've tried blocking one guy in a thread about a week ago, probably just blocks PMs and stuff

[intersect]

ctsaxon1983 wrote...

I can't believe someone would even trade anything in at Gamestop anymore. That is the sign of a dumb ass. Besides FF games suck. Turn based combat , which is what i remember those games using is crap. Expect Trolls on this post since this is a Bioware Forum page.

They're not completely turn based anymore, and haven't been for awhile.  And I dont get everyone claiming the cover based shooting of ME2 is half finished.  The only thing I can tell thats different from Gears is blind-fire, which is no use and just a waste of ammunition anyway.

[Karstedt]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Block does nothing, I've tried blocking one guy in a thread about a week ago, probably just blocks PMs and stuff

So that's why you're not returning my messages!

[Zemore]

Suron wrote...




I love the stupidity of people that post this.

Trading a game is nets you much less then you paid sure but...if you DON'T PLAY IT ANYMORE..it just sits there...WORTHLESS.

trading it in gives you money off something you'll PLAY..meaning..NOT WORTHLESS....

ah..stupidity..love it.

I buy a game $50
I don't like it and/or don't play it anymore
I buy a second game $50
That's $100 total with there being only ONE of those two games I play
I'm out $100

I buy a game $50
I don't like it and/or don't play it anymore
I sell it back for $20 and use it to buy a game for $50..costing me $30
That's $100 total minus $20 credit I still have ONE game to play
I'm out $80 instead of $100 with the same ****ing end result

yah I can see your "logic"

lol wow your an up yourself little Artard arent you?
Tell me how many idiots trade in games to buy new ones only to go back later and buy those same games back at a later date

Ive heard so many people saying it "oh i need to get halo3 again"
You are effectivley funneling money in to these shops and they are riding you around like idiots and whats worse is that it hurts the gaming makers why do you think they put things like Exclusive DLC in to New copies of games? because everyone just gets the 2nd hand copies that doesnt put more money back IN to the games it puts it directly in to the wallets of the stores.

and then ****s like you complain about why this **** costs so much

Modifié par Zemore, 06 mars 2010 - 03:43 .

[ZennExile]

Suron wrote...

Karstedt wrote...

Suron wrote...

I love the stupidity of people that post this.

Trading a game is nets you much less then you paid sure but...if you DON'T PLAY IT ANYMORE..it just sits there...WORTHLESS.

trading it in gives you money off something you'll PLAY..meaning..NOT WORTHLESS....

ah..stupidity..love it.

I buy a game $50
I don't like it and/or don't play it anymore
I buy a second game $50
That's $100 total with there being only ONE of those two games I play
I'm out $100

I buy a game $50
I don't like it and/or don't play it anymore
I sell it back for $20 and use it to buy a game for $50..costing me $30
That's $100 total minus $20 credit I still have ONE game to play
I'm out $80 instead of $100 with the same ****ing end result

yah I can see your "logic"

I love the idiocy of people who post like this.

Buying a game is WORTHLESS!

Pirating a game gives you something to play for FREE!

Ah... idiocy. Love it.

I buy a game $50
I don't like it and/or don't play it anymore
I sell it back for $20 and use it to buy a game for $50..costing me $30
That's $100 total minus $20 credit I still have ONE game to play
I'm out $80 instead of $100


I pirate a game, 0$
I don't like it and/or don't play it anymore
I pirate a second game $0
That's $0 total with there being only ONE of those two games I play
I'm out $0 with the same ****ing end result

Your "logic" stinks.

/sarcasm

I don't even need to bother commenting on how stupid this is..

nice try though

play again sometime!

Actually he's got a very valid point.  Most of these console developers have been getting away with "sight unseen" sales gimmicks for 20+ years.  They should be forced to offer up trial versions of their games that prove the hype or at the very least back up the gimmick that hype is built on.

Stealing software doesn't have a negative negative impact on anyone.  It's floating around in economic "limbo" because its existance itself isn't bound to supply or demand.  You can argue that the developer loses the possibility of that profit but really, that's nothing but semantics.  You can also show that trial experiences as the result of piracy succeed in generating even moar income for the developer because many "software pirates" purchase any game they enjoyed enough to warrent payment on.

So maybe the stupid ball bounced twice in yer square punk 

[Trenrade]

Don't sell at gamestop they rip you offf, they give you only a third of what they are going to resell your game for.

[intersect]

Zemore wrote...

Suron wrote...




I love the stupidity of people that post this.

Trading a game is nets you much less then you paid sure but...if you DON'T PLAY IT ANYMORE..it just sits there...WORTHLESS.

trading it in gives you money off something you'll PLAY..meaning..NOT WORTHLESS....

ah..stupidity..love it.

I buy a game $50
I don't like it and/or don't play it anymore
I buy a second game $50
That's $100 total with there being only ONE of those two games I play
I'm out $100

I buy a game $50
I don't like it and/or don't play it anymore
I sell it back for $20 and use it to buy a game for $50..costing me $30
That's $100 total minus $20 credit I still have ONE game to play
I'm out $80 instead of $100 with the same ****ing end result

yah I can see your "logic"

lol wow your an up yourself little Artard arent you?
Tell me how many idiots trade in games to buy new ones only to go back later and buy those same games back at a later date

Ive heard so many people saying it "oh i need to get halo3 again"
You are effectivley funneling money in to these shops and they are riding you around like idiots and whats worse is that it hurts the gaming makers why do you think they put things like Exclusive DLC in to New copies of games? because everyone just gets the 2nd hand copies that doesnt put more money back IN to the games it puts it directly in to the wallets of the stores.

and then ****s like you complain about why this **** costs so much

]

Selling it on ebay is still buying/selling a used game

I never own more than maybe 6 or 7 games at a time, because I cant afford to just shell out $60 for every game that comes out.

Most times I still buy new copies of any newer game I'm getting, because I'm paranoid of scratches anyway.

[slyguy07]

ChampDude wrote...

superimposed wrote...

...It does?
Because I distinctly recall it having fake, computer-generated boobs.

For some people, that's as close as they can get to the real thing

Lol nah porn gets you closer

[Zemore]

intersect wrote...



Selling it on ebay is still buying/selling a used game

I never own more than maybe 6 or 7 games at a time, because I cant afford to just shell out $60 for every game that comes out.

Most times I still buy new copies of any newer game I'm getting, because I'm paranoid of scratches anyway.

read my post again why quoteme and say  about selling on ebay when i havent said anything like that?

Modifié par Zemore, 06 mars 2010 - 03:50 .

[intersect]

That was what the argument was before, I just quoted the last post on the subj, got yours by accident. I agree with your point, I don't get rid of any game I may want to play again ever. Which is why I'm getting rid of bioshock 2.

[ZennExile]

intersect wrote...

ctsaxon1983 wrote...

I can't believe someone would even trade anything in at Gamestop anymore. That is the sign of a dumb ass. Besides FF games suck. Turn based combat , which is what i remember those games using is crap. Expect Trolls on this post since this is a Bioware Forum page.

They're not completely turn based anymore, and haven't been for awhile.  And I dont get everyone claiming the cover based shooting of ME2 is half finished.  The only thing I can tell thats different from Gears is blind-fire, which is no use and just a waste of ammunition anyway.

Easy enough.  The Cover Based combat is not gameplay rich enough to support the RPG experience on its own.  Yet Bioware specifically designed the game to do so.  Which makes the game unfinished.

But you specifically want to suggest people claim the "combat" is unfinished, probably because you're trying to be clever?  And the reason the combat is also unfinished is because, while they masterfully developed a much improved combat experience, they don't do anything epic with it.   The combat is pretty mundane and the AI is dialed down to the point where young children would have no issue whatsoever just picking the game up and playing it.

Even the "Insanity" difficulty setting equates to nothing more than "turning on" all the combat mechanics.  This game was built to allow the most retarded adults (5 years old mentally) with zero "Mario Skills" (if you don't know you /fail hard so don't ask) to pick up the game and play it with ease.  And that my friends is why the western gaming industry is stagnating into this dumbed down "retard mode" version of everything.  The same reason our education system is broken.  We try to make everything appeal to too many people and in the end, the only way to do that is to appeal to the most incredibly stupid people you can imagine.

No one makes adult games but Vivid.  And they aren't the right kinda fun...

Modifié par ZennExile, 06 mars 2010 - 03:59 .

[Zemore]

intersect wrote...

That was what the argument was before, I just quoted the last post on the subj, got yours by accident. I agree with your point, I don't get rid of any game I may want to play again ever. Which is why I'm getting rid of bioshock 2.

i liked bioshock 2

I try to keep everygame lol i have drawers full of old games from multiple consoles of the bygone years

[intersect]

ZennExile wrote...

intersect wrote...

ctsaxon1983 wrote...

I can't believe someone would even trade anything in at Gamestop anymore. That is the sign of a dumb ass. Besides FF games suck. Turn based combat , which is what i remember those games using is crap. Expect Trolls on this post since this is a Bioware Forum page.

They're not completely turn based anymore, and haven't been for awhile.  And I dont get everyone claiming the cover based shooting of ME2 is half finished.  The only thing I can tell thats different from Gears is blind-fire, which is no use and just a waste of ammunition anyway.

Easy enough.  The Cover Based combat is not gameplay rich enough to support the RPG experience on its own.  Yet Bioware specifically designed the game to do so.  Which makes the game unfinished.

But you specifically want to suggest people claim the "combat" is unfinished, probably because you're trying to be clever?  And the reason the combat is also unfinished is because, while they masterfully developed a much improved combat experience, they don't do anything epic with it.   The combat is pretty mundane and the AI is dialed down to the point where young children would have no issue whatsoever just picking the game up and playing it.

Even the "Insanity" difficulty setting equates to nothing more than "turning on" all the combat mechanics.  This game was built to allow the most retarded adults (5 years old mentally) with zero "Mario Skills" (if you don't know you /fail hard so don't ask) to pick up the game and play it with ease.  And that my friends is why the western gaming industry is stagnating into this dumbed down "retard mode" version of everything.  The same reason our education system is broken.  We try to make everything appeal to too many people and end the only way to do that is to appeal to the most incredibly stupid people you can imagine.

No one makes adult games but Vivid.  And they aren't the right kinda fun...

I thoght the combat system was fine, + epic story + awesome characters + you in charge of decisions/convos = Great RPG.  Sure a few more weapons or armors would have been great, but like I know has been said before, I like that we a few weapons that are in fact quite distinct from one another, rather than 40 weapons each +1-ing each other in some spec or another.

Zemore wrote...

i liked bioshock 2

I try to keep everygame lol i have drawers full of old games from multiple consoles of the bygone years

I liked it, I'm just never going to play it again, I was a little disappointed by the story, nowhere near the first one.  There was no "would you kindly" moment at all that I was waiting for, and it mainly seemed like one long linear mission from the outset.  That said, being a Big Daddy was just badass!

Modifié par intersect, 06 mars 2010 - 04:03 .

[Skilled Seeker]

Don't feed the troll peeps. And ZennIdiot trade in ME2 then and leave these forums already. We are tired of your BS.

[Lonely_Fat_Guy]

god of war 3 is a rpg????

LOLZ

trololololololololololo this is what i think of this tread

Modifié par Lonely_Fat_Guy, 06 mars 2010 - 04:05 .

[marshalleck]

Anyone thinking about trading in ME2 because it's not enough of an RPG and getting FF13 instead is going to be in for one heck of a miserable surprise.

[ChampDude]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Don't feed the troll peeps. And ZennIdiot trade in ME2 then and leave these forums already. We are tired of your BS.

Whole-heartedly agreed

[Zemore]

ZennExile wrote...


Easy enough.  The Cover Based combat is not gameplay rich enough to support the RPG experience on its own.  Yet Bioware specifically designed the game to do so.  Which makes the game unfinished.

But you specifically want to suggest people claim the "combat" is unfinished, probably because you're trying to be clever?  And the reason the combat is also unfinished is because, while they masterfully developed a much improved combat experience, they don't do anything epic with it.   The combat is pretty mundane and the AI is dialed down to the point where young children would have no issue whatsoever just picking the game up and playing it.

Even the "Insanity" difficulty setting equates to nothing more than "turning on" all the combat mechanics.  This game was built to allow the most retarded adults (5 years old mentally) with zero "Mario Skills" (if you don't know you /fail hard so don't ask) to pick up the game and play it with ease.  And that my friends is why the western gaming industry is stagnating into this dumbed down "retard mode" version of everything.  The same reason our education system is broken.  We try to make everything appeal to too many people and in the end, the only way to do that is to appeal to the most incredibly stupid people you can imagine.

No one makes adult games but Vivid.  And they aren't the right kinda fun...

Lol? mabye your countries education system is ****ed but mine is completley fine dont tar all western countries with the same brush
ill admit alot of games are easy as hell nowadays RPGs especially but to be honest do i care? not really i play the game for the simple enjoyment of the story and the game play if i like it i enjoyed the game if i dident oh well.

and do you honestly expect game developers to pander to the minority of the populous that thinks they are the dogs bollocks with "Mario skills" and can shoot lightining from thier ****** hole No they cater to the biggest group they can effectivley destribute a game too now should they then proceed to make those people feel stupid? No because if that reduces thier likleyness to buy the next games.

Honestly why cant you people just enjoy things for what they are a game its not that hard.

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Don't feed the troll peeps. And ZennIdiot trade in ME2 then and leave these forums already. We are tired of your BS.

i only count it as feeding them if you get mad i just like typing my point out

intersect wrote...


I liked it, I'm just never going
to play it again, I was a little disappointed by the story, nowhere
near the first one.  There was no "would you kindly" moment at all that
I was waiting for, and it mainly seemed like one long linear mission
from the outset.  That said, being a Big Daddy was just badass!

hmm i agree on the whole story wasent what the 1st was but never the less i still think mine has a few more playthroughs in it going for cheevos and what not.

Modifié par Zemore, 06 mars 2010 - 04:14 .

[MassAffected]

ChampDude wrote...

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Don't feed the troll peeps. And ZennIdiot trade in ME2 then and leave these forums already. We are tired of your BS.

Whole-heartedly agreed

Thirded, and this goes for any troll.  If you hate the game so much then just leave...

[addiction21]

And here I was thinking this thread was about waffles.

[MassAffected]

addiction21 wrote...

And here I was thinking this thread was about waffles.

Damn it, I guess I was off-topic...sorry all.

[ZennExile]

intersect wrote...

ZennExile wrote...

intersect wrote...

ctsaxon1983 wrote...

I can't believe someone would even trade anything in at Gamestop anymore. That is the sign of a dumb ass. Besides FF games suck. Turn based combat , which is what i remember those games using is crap. Expect Trolls on this post since this is a Bioware Forum page.

They're not completely turn based anymore, and haven't been for awhile.  And I dont get everyone claiming the cover based shooting of ME2 is half finished.  The only thing I can tell thats different from Gears is blind-fire, which is no use and just a waste of ammunition anyway.

Easy enough.  The Cover Based combat is not gameplay rich enough to support the RPG experience on its own.  Yet Bioware specifically designed the game to do so.  Which makes the game unfinished.

But you specifically want to suggest people claim the "combat" is unfinished, probably because you're trying to be clever?  And the reason the combat is also unfinished is because, while they masterfully developed a much improved combat experience, they don't do anything epic with it.   The combat is pretty mundane and the AI is dialed down to the point where young children would have no issue whatsoever just picking the game up and playing it.

Even the "Insanity" difficulty setting equates to nothing more than "turning on" all the combat mechanics.  This game was built to allow the most retarded adults (5 years old mentally) with zero "Mario Skills" (if you don't know you /fail hard so don't ask) to pick up the game and play it with ease.  And that my friends is why the western gaming industry is stagnating into this dumbed down "retard mode" version of everything.  The same reason our education system is broken.  We try to make everything appeal to too many people and end the only way to do that is to appeal to the most incredibly stupid people you can imagine.

No one makes adult games but Vivid.  And they aren't the right kinda fun...

I thoght the combat system was fine, + epic story + awesome characters + you in charge of decisions/convos = Great RPG.  Sure a few more weapons or armors would have been great, but like I know has been said before, I like that we a few weapons that are in fact quite distinct from one another, rather than 40 weapons each +1-ing each other in some spec or another.

Zemore wrote...

i liked bioshock 2

I try to keep everygame lol i have drawers full of old games from multiple consoles of the bygone years

I liked it, I'm just never going to play it again, I was a little disappointed by the story, nowhere near the first one.  There was no "would you kindly" moment at all that I was waiting for, and it mainly seemed like one long linear mission from the outset.  That said, being a Big Daddy was just badass!

Why do people always go for the weapons no matter what the topic of reply is...?

RPGs are defined not by specific elements, but a combination of elements.  A total weight and scope of accepted RPG elements.  The amount of each isn't important.  The complexity and depth of the system they are part of is.  ME2 is marketed as an RPG to RPG fans as a sequel to a Hugely Popular RPG.  Yet it has a very limited pool of RPG elements to draw from.  Story is not an RPG element, it's a multi genre element.  So you can't use it to give weight to the RPG value.  No matter how EPIC you are duped into believing the story is.

You have character creation.
Character development.
Dialogue choice.
Personal Virtual Space.

That's pretty much it for RPG elements...  And considering character creation is also a solid canidate for the "multi-genre" title ... You have nothing but character development, dialogue choice and a Captains Cabin you can upgrade to really call RPG elements in this game.

Now since RPG is a measure of the whole and a reflection of the depth in that whole system, you'd think ME2 would make up for such a small pool of elements with a deep meaningful and overall EPIC combination of them.   Yet again we are left with extremely linear and limited character development in terms of using a point system to unlock skills.  (Which is also becoming a common shooter element...) Dialogue choices that really have no tangeble effect on the plot of the game and are based on a polar extreme good/evil scale with the depth of Dr. Sues story...  And then we get to the epic "SPACE HAMPSTER" and a cool fishtank.

Oh you do get to see some kinky alien love makin right?  Nope not this time fellahs.  Not only that but we can't allow yer femshep to nail the obviously and admittedly bisexual members of the crew....  Because we want you to take this shallow excuse for a console money grab seriously...

That's why people don't think it's RPG enough.  And that is why cover shooter mechanics aren't enough to make up for it.  There is no wieght to the RPG elements that do exist AND they are few in number.  So technically it's not even an RPG by industry standards.

[Multifarious Algorithm]

Man when will people learn that RPG does not actually imply, or in anyway require "setting your numbers to determine what you can do" - as that is the lamest part of RPGs. Ditto inventory management in 99% of all games (X-Com being the exception).



Bioware - keep doing what you do!