The Angry One wrote...
marshalleck wrote...
I don't see anyone moralizing when it comes time to fumigate a building infested with cockroaches. Why should Reapers spend any time wringing their tentacles over doing the same to the galaxy?
cockroaches don't think and feel. They don't communicate with us and ask us why we're killing them.
And no we're not cockroaches to the Reapers. They have a technological edge, but they're still giant cuttlefish.
marshalleck wrote...
I don't see anyone moralizing when it comes time to fumigate a building infested with cockroaches. Why should Reapers spend any time wringing their tentacles over doing the same to the galaxy?
I think your example is a bit off.marshalleck wrote...
I don't see anyone moralizing when it comes time to fumigate a building infested with cockroaches. Why should Reapers spend any time wringing their tentacles over doing the same to the galaxy?
The Angry One wrote...
marshalleck wrote...
I don't see anyone moralizing when it comes time to fumigate a building infested with cockroaches. Why should Reapers spend any time wringing their tentacles over doing the same to the galaxy?
cockroaches don't think and feel. They don't communicate with us and ask us why we're killing them.
And no we're not cockroaches to the Reapers. They have a technological edge, but they're still giant cuttlefish.
The Angry One wrote...
marshalleck wrote...
I don't see anyone moralizing when it comes time to fumigate a building infested with cockroaches. Why should Reapers spend any time wringing their tentacles over doing the same to the galaxy?
cockroaches don't think and feel. They don't communicate with us and ask us why we're killing them.
And no we're not cockroaches to the Reapers. They have a technological edge, but they're still giant cuttlefish.
Sunnie22 wrote...
Good and evil are completely dependent upon the point of view. During the crusades, the Christian invading armies saw the Muslims as the evil guys (because Muslims invaded Iberia, Sicily, Cyprus, Turkey and Israel to force the population to convert), and the Muslims saw the Christian invaders as the evil guys. But just for the sake of common sense, I will kill anyone trying to kill me, don't care if they are good or evil.
Sunnie22 wrote...
marshalleck wrote...
I don't see anyone moralizing when it comes time to fumigate a building infested with cockroaches. Why should Reapers spend any time wringing their tentacles over doing the same to the galaxy?
Roaches are not "sapient" life forms. That analogy does'nt work here.
A better analogy would be Hitler's hell bent mission to exterminate the Jews, and I am pretty sure that if you were not one of Hitler's completely loyal cronies, you thought he was evil and had to be stopped.
marshalleck wrote...
The Angry One wrote...
marshalleck wrote...
I don't see anyone moralizing when it comes time to fumigate a building infested with cockroaches. Why should Reapers spend any time wringing their tentacles over doing the same to the galaxy?
cockroaches don't think and feel. They don't communicate with us and ask us why we're killing them.
And no we're not cockroaches to the Reapers. They have a technological edge, but they're still giant cuttlefish.
That's space-cuttlefish to you.
InvaderErl wrote...
Good and evil is not completely subjective.
If I kill a million people for the lolz of it I have clearly done something evil.
Arguing otherwise is just being obtuse.
Dave the Seagull wrote...
marshalleck wrote...
The Angry One wrote...
marshalleck wrote...
I don't see anyone moralizing when it comes time to fumigate a building infested with cockroaches. Why should Reapers spend any time wringing their tentacles over doing the same to the galaxy?
cockroaches don't think and feel. They don't communicate with us and ask us why we're killing them.
And no we're not cockroaches to the Reapers. They have a technological edge, but they're still giant cuttlefish.
That's space-cuttlefish to you.
Hey, thats Mr Space-Cuttlefish to you!
Modifié par The Angry One, 06 mars 2010 - 06:13 .
All humans are.InvaderErl wrote...
That and he's racist against Turians.
The Angry One wrote...
No, sorry. The Reapers are evil. They not only maintain a Reaper population that can only be sustained by over-consumption, they do so by choice because they keep trying to make more of themselves.
Plus, they RAPE THE MINDS of the sapient creatures they don't immediately consume, and turn them into grotesque zombie remnants of their former selves to do their bidding, and they revel in it.
That is 100% evil.
superimposed wrote...
The Angry One wrote...
No, sorry. The Reapers are evil. They not only maintain a Reaper population that can only be sustained by over-consumption, they do so by choice because they keep trying to make more of themselves.
Plus, they RAPE THE MINDS of the sapient creatures they don't immediately consume, and turn them into grotesque zombie remnants of their former selves to do their bidding, and they revel in it.
That is 100% evil.
Doesn't sound too different to what a lot of their victims do to one another.
Fight each other for territories and control of resources, ultimately making one side dominant the other subservient - or non-existant.
superimposed wrote...
The Angry One wrote...
No, sorry. The Reapers are evil. They not only maintain a Reaper population that can only be sustained by over-consumption, they do so by choice because they keep trying to make more of themselves.
Plus, they RAPE THE MINDS of the sapient creatures they don't immediately consume, and turn them into grotesque zombie remnants of their former selves to do their bidding, and they revel in it.
That is 100% evil.
Doesn't sound too different to what a lot of their victims do to one another.
Fight each other for territories and control of resources, ultimately making one side dominant the other subservient - or non-existant.
superimposed wrote...
Doesn't sound too different to what a lot of their victims do to one another.
Fight each other for territories and control of resources, ultimately making one side dominant the other subservient - or non-existant.
The Angry One wrote...
No, sorry. The Reapers are evil. They not only maintain a Reaper population that can only be sustained by over-consumption, they do so by choice because they keep trying to make more of themselves.
Plus, they RAPE THE MINDS of the sapient creatures they don't immediately consume, and turn them into grotesque zombie remnants of their former selves to do their bidding, and they revel in it.
That is 100% evil.
Modifié par marshalleck, 06 mars 2010 - 06:24 .
Now if it was kill a million bacteria for the lolz of it, is it evil? (commonly done by yourself in the trillions)Computron2000 wrote...
InvaderErl wrote...
Good and evil is not completely subjective.
If I kill a million people for the lolz of it I have clearly done something evil.
Arguing otherwise is just being obtuse.
Now if it was kill a million ants for the lolz of it, is it evil? (commonly done by kids though not at the million level)
Vaenier wrote...
Now if it was kill a million bacteria for the lolz of it, is it evil? (commonly done by yourself in the trillions)Computron2000 wrote...
InvaderErl wrote...
Good and evil is not completely subjective.
If I kill a million people for the lolz of it I have clearly done something evil.
Arguing otherwise is just being obtuse.
Now if it was kill a million ants for the lolz of it, is it evil? (commonly done by kids though not at the million level)
marshalleck wrote...
The Angry One wrote...
No, sorry. The Reapers are evil. They not only maintain a Reaper population that can only be sustained by over-consumption, they do so by choice because they keep trying to make more of themselves.
Plus, they RAPE THE MINDS of the sapient creatures they don't immediately consume, and turn them into grotesque zombie remnants of their former selves to do their bidding, and they revel in it.
That is 100% evil.
Are you familiar with parasitic wasp reproduction? The adult wasp paralyzes its victim, then with its ovipositor it lays eggs inside the body of its target, often some form of caterpillar. The eggs hatch and begin to consume the host from the inside out. They don't just eat anything though. They first start with the least vital organs and fluids, so as to keep the host alive for as long as possible. The host only dies when the wasp larvae enter pupae form or burst forth from it as an adult, much like in the Alien movies.
It's a horrific process by our standards, but that doesn't make them evil.
The Angry One wrote...
No, sorry. The Reapers are evil. They not only maintain a Reaper population that can only be sustained by over-consumption, they do so by choice because they keep trying to make more of themselves.
Plus, they RAPE THE MINDS of the sapient creatures they don't immediately consume, and turn them into grotesque zombie remnants of their former selves to do their bidding, and they revel in it.
That is 100% evil.
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