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[MassAffected]

I really hope we get some CHARACTER driven DLC our way from BioWare and soon.

[Avanaco]

Agree completely with the OP. It is VERY easy to have a lossless ending. Even on my first run, I did not lose a single crewmate. My second run was uneventful. My third run (insanity/renegade) I saved the entire crew even with Tali disloyal (got a bit too chummy with Legion... Tali is so meh, so I didn't bother to reload).

If you lose people, there should be consequences. If you don't like it, load the default game in ME3 and deal with it. Or replay ME2 and get it right this time. (Come on, this is a game, replaying it shoudl be a lot of fun, right? Go opposite alignment, do things in different order to unlock different conversations, etc.)

[Nozybidaj]

MassAffected wrote...

 There is so much rage over the second one that people forget all the great things that could be in store for the third.

So back to the "just wait two years, again, and things will all be honky dorey" excuse.  Sorry,  already waited two years to see what happened to these characters and there is no reason we shouldn't have gotten that.

I still don't understand why we go for the throat of another fan, we really need to get on the same page here.

Spend a couple of months on the forums with all the other groups pointing their finger going "nay nay neh nay nay, we're in ME2 and you're not and you deserve it cause Liara sucks and now she is bat **** crazy, ahahaha" and see how gracious you feel toward the other fan groups.

[DarthRevan4life]

@ jlb524 - is it easier to disregard the old crew and bring in new ones? I think that's debatable because it's easier to keep the same VA, don't have to create new character models or story structures. But that's just my opinion though. I do agree though that a lot of decisions didn't appear to be truly meaningful but maybe that's just appearances? I mean yeah I wanted things to have a greater impact but maybe every decision will have a big impact on the 3rd game.



I would rather be optimistic and assume BW knows what they're doing, better than being pessimistic and assuming BW is taking shortcuts.

[MassAffected]

DarthRevan4life wrote...

@ jlb524 - is it easier to disregard the old crew and bring in new ones? I think that's debatable because it's easier to keep the same VA, don't have to create new character models or story structures. But that's just my opinion though. I do agree though that a lot of decisions didn't appear to be truly meaningful but maybe that's just appearances? I mean yeah I wanted things to have a greater impact but maybe every decision will have a big impact on the 3rd game.

I would rather be optimistic and assume BW knows what they're doing, better than being pessimistic and assuming BW is taking shortcuts.

I'm much the same way. BioWare has yet to let me down so I trust them to do a good job. I believe I read somewhere that because this is the third and final act in ME3 they can really let go and get crazy with the writing. Honestly, all I can really do is wait and see. I'm sure they won't let me down.

[DarthRevan4life]

@ MassAffected - I agree completely, the only time BW has let me down was when they didn't make KOTOR 3, but I still have hope for that one. As for ME3, I think things will be impressive; I mean they don't have to worry about consequences or choices affecting the next game as there won't be a next game.

[Ray Joel Oh]

I really like the idea of replacing fallen squadmates with generic Johns and Janes. And watch as the generic replacements get their own special following. "I really love the way Sue Smith says 'Enemy is everywhere!' and 'I will destroy you!' She's the best."

[Knoll Argonar]

MassAffected wrote...

DarthRevan4life wrote...

@ jlb524 - is it easier to disregard the old crew and bring in new ones? I think that's debatable because it's easier to keep the same VA, don't have to create new character models or story structures. But that's just my opinion though. I do agree though that a lot of decisions didn't appear to be truly meaningful but maybe that's just appearances? I mean yeah I wanted things to have a greater impact but maybe every decision will have a big impact on the 3rd game.

I would rather be optimistic and assume BW knows what they're doing, better than being pessimistic and assuming BW is taking shortcuts.

I'm much the same way. BioWare has yet to let me down so I trust them to do a good job. I believe I read somewhere that because this is the third and final act in ME3 they can really let go and get crazy with the writing. Honestly, all I can really do is wait and see. I'm sure they won't let me down.

Agreed.

MassAffected, you think almost exactly like me o.o

[MassAffected]

Knoll Argonar wrote...

MassAffected wrote...

DarthRevan4life wrote...

@ jlb524 - is it easier to disregard the old crew and bring in new ones? I think that's debatable because it's easier to keep the same VA, don't have to create new character models or story structures. But that's just my opinion though. I do agree though that a lot of decisions didn't appear to be truly meaningful but maybe that's just appearances? I mean yeah I wanted things to have a greater impact but maybe every decision will have a big impact on the 3rd game.

I would rather be optimistic and assume BW knows what they're doing, better than being pessimistic and assuming BW is taking shortcuts.

I'm much the same way. BioWare has yet to let me down so I trust them to do a good job. I believe I read somewhere that because this is the third and final act in ME3 they can really let go and get crazy with the writing. Honestly, all I can really do is wait and see. I'm sure they won't let me down.

Agreed.

MassAffected, you think almost exactly like me o.o

Yeah, you're my clone

[Nozybidaj]

DarthRevan4life wrote...

@ MassAffected - I agree completely, the only time BW has let me down was when they didn't make KOTOR 3, but I still have hope for that one. As for ME3, I think things will be impressive; I mean they don't have to worry about consequences or choices affecting the next game as there won't be a next game.

Well that's great for you.  BW already let a lot of us down with ME2 and failing to live up to the talk of a trilogy.  For those folks the onus is now on BW to prove they can pull the rest of this off.

[MassAffected]

Modifié par MassAffected, 11 mars 2010 - 12:36 .

[Onyx Jaguar]

I love being proved right

[MassAffected]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

I love being proved right

orly?

[jlb524]

Nozybidaj wrote...

Spend a couple of months on the forums
with all the other groups pointing their finger going "nay nay neh nay
nay, we're in ME2 and you're not and you deserve it cause Liara sucks
and now she is bat **** crazy, ahahaha" and see how gracious you feel
toward the other fan groups.

This.  'Liara's boring so we need new squad mates, in ME2 blah blah blah!' 

Drives me mad!!

MassAffected wrote...

I'm much the same way. BioWare has yet to let me down so I trust them to do a good job.

Well, they let me down with ME2 so I don't have to trust them to do a good job with ME3.  I hope they do a good job but I don't have to trust that they will pull through.  Judging by past experiences with my disappointment in ME2, I'm expecting another let down with ME3.

Modifié par jlb524, 11 mars 2010 - 12:40 .

[DarthRevan4life]

BW let you down because certain characters weren't part of your squad? Sorry but the onus isn't on BW to assure every fan gets what they want. That's just unreasonable from a business standpoint. The trilogy isn't even done yet and BW is being judged on the 2nd game? Maybe just maybe the fans themselves allowed themselves to get overly hyped and set themself up for disappointment.

[MassAffected]

DarthRevan4life wrote...

BW let you down because certain characters weren't part of your squad? Sorry but the onus isn't on BW to assure every fan gets what they want. That's just unreasonable from a business standpoint. The trilogy isn't even done yet and BW is being judged on the 2nd game? Maybe just maybe the fans themselves allowed themselves to get overly hyped and set themself up for disappointment.

Trust me man, I've been saying this exact thing for some time...I usually get ignored and or told "I don't know how they feel" or any combination/variation of the two. I'm just making myself a list here of folks who's posts I'll no longer be reading.

[jakenou]

I agree with the OP here for the most part, and I think BioWare will come through with something that will satisfy most folks. I seriously don't think there will be too many people disappointed if they have options for return cameos or full character play for team mates that could have potentially died in ME2. First of all, they did exactly that from ME1 to ME2, although either Kaidan or Ashley had to die, there were a whole bunch of other small characters that peeped their heads in to both games, depending on how they were played in ME1. Doing that for ME3 would certainly be on a much grander scale since there are a heck of a lot more main characters, but I think it's doable and perhaps they will "resurrect" even a portion of crew that died... or since if Shepard dies, that game won't be importable, perhaps a 100% dead crew also is not importable (can you even survive if the rest of your crew dies??).



Secondly, I'm going to venture to say that a good majority of mass effect players are doing several playthroughs of ME2, which is much easier to accomplish than ME1. Once we've seen the implications of our ME1 saves in ME2, a lot of people have even gone back and played ME1 again for more options (myself included). Both games beg the player to go back and play through again - like no other game I've seen before and even though some parts seem ultra repetitive, people still seem to play over and over again. Must.... level.... up....



It really isn't that hard to keep the whole crew alive either, so I'm going to guess there won't be too many people disappointed if there are further repurcussions for their deaths. I'm going to guess a few key characters will come back no matter what, like Miranda and perhaps Liara and her Shadowbroker quest, and whoever survived in ME1 between Kaidan and Ashley. I mean, if you think about it, Kaidan or Ashley HAVE to come back in ME3. They're really needed to round out the story I think. It would be so epic if they did, and so epically wrong if they didn't!

[Clover Rider]

DarthRevan4life wrote...

BW let you down because certain characters weren't part of your squad? Sorry but the onus isn't on BW to assure every fan gets what they want. That's just unreasonable from a business standpoint. The trilogy isn't even done yet and BW is being judged on the 2nd game? Maybe just maybe the fans themselves allowed themselves to get overly hyped and set themself up for disappointment.

Liara fans are just so sad it's funny 

[jlb524]

DarthRevan4life wrote...

BW let you down because certain characters weren't part of your squad? Sorry but the onus isn't on BW to assure every fan gets what they want. That's just unreasonable from a business standpoint. The trilogy isn't even done yet and BW is being judged on the 2nd game? Maybe just maybe the fans themselves allowed themselves to get overly hyped and set themself up for disappointment.

I guess it's our fault for expecting the important ME1 characters to carry over into the sequel of a trilogy in an important/meaningful way. 

OK, I'll just have low expectations for the next one so I'll avoid the inevitable disappointment.  Or I'll just let myself be amused with the flashy new characters that they will replace the old ones with.   So long ME2 crew...hello new ME3 crew!

[MassAffected]

Some Geth wrote...

DarthRevan4life wrote...

BW let you down because certain characters weren't part of your squad? Sorry but the onus isn't on BW to assure every fan gets what they want. That's just unreasonable from a business standpoint. The trilogy isn't even done yet and BW is being judged on the 2nd game? Maybe just maybe the fans themselves allowed themselves to get overly hyped and set themself up for disappointment.

Liara fans are just so sad it's funny 

You're really not helping...

Edit: You know what...after accidentally reading the post below yours...make fun of them as much as you want.

Modifié par MassAffected, 11 mars 2010 - 12:55 .

[Onyx Jaguar]

I would be more sympathetic, but when you start saying that ME 2 isn't a sequel its hard for me to take you seriously.

[MassAffected]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

I would be more sympathetic, but when you start saying that ME 2 isn't a sequel its hard for me to take you seriously.

[Clover Rider]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

I would be more sympathetic, but when you start saying that ME 2 isn't a sequel its hard for me to take you seriously.

They think ME2 is God of war 6 by now 

[jlb524]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

I would be more sympathetic, but when you start saying that ME 2 isn't a sequel its hard for me to take you seriously.

I wouldn't say it wasn't a sequel, it was just a crappy sequel.

[Clover Rider]

jlb524 wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

I would be more sympathetic, but when you start saying that ME 2 isn't a sequel its hard for me to take you seriously.

I wouldn't say it wasn't a sequel, it was just a crappy sequel.

For Liara