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No US, no Romance in Awakening: Which stage are you at?


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I'm at Stage 6: WTF?!
Because of no Leliana. I really enjoyed having her as a companion in Origins. And now, I is sad. Image IPB
I can live with no US, as 1. I didn't do it with my main and 2. You still can leave your US character dead and start with the Orlesian Warden.
No romance made me cringe, but I can deal with it since there's no Leliana to romance (RAGE!) and Bioware said that our romances will be reffered to.


lol!  After dealing with virtually no Kaidan in ME2 :( :( :( :(, it was pretty easy to accept this.  Now I'm redoing the city elf playthrough where Kallian hardens Alistair, gets to be his 'true love' on the side, but gets to force him to marry Anora!  Ha!

The annoying thing is, we can't romance anyone in Awakenings, so, I'm still on the 'angry' stage with that one, well, more like annoyed.

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What does no US mean? That you get replaced by the orlesian warden or are you magically resurrected like in Fallout 3?

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Stage 7: Not bothered.

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grieferbastard wrote...

Stage 1: Denial

Stage 2: Anger

Stage 3: Bargaining

Stage 4: Depression

Stage 5: Acceptance


Having seen the variety of threads on this topic I'm regularly amazed at how many people seem genuinely upset over how these things are handled in even just an expansion. Obviously a lot of folks got a deep emotional response out of the game and that's awesome. So I'm curious; for those who are upset and if you're honest with yourself about the realities of what will and will not be included in Awakenings, what stage are you at?


For me..I guess what's done is done, so I will continue all my characters on into Awakening..not play the Orlesian, because far as I am concerned.  he/she doesn't make sense in MY story :D   

No dead wardens awalking ....either.

Other than that...being that I have already paid out the money for the expansion, I will likely run all my characters through it...(except the heroically sacrificed one of course) and we'll see after that.

More than likely I'll be moving on though...I'll have got my money's worth.

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Grog415 wrote...

Get a girlfriend and get over it.


Don't participate in this thread if the little light bulb in your head blew out...:P

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Stage 1: Denial



I am still there when it comes to no romance. Hoping they will like come out and say sorry it is in we were just kidding! I mean I get the whole thi story is more intense and you are fighting off darkspawn and are a leader... Oh wait that was what we were doing in Origins and that was a MFing Achdemon! If our Gray Warden could manage a relationship doing that I think they could manage while building up ANOTHER force.

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Osena109 wrote...

tbh i Romanced morrigan one time and for the most part i was unimpressed by it i just done the deed with her so i might live after that so no Romance is fine by me its game people not real life


Your argument was fine, right up until the real life part. Just because people are disappointed something they enjoyed in a game is being put on hold/not included in this release, doesn't mean they don't have a real life. You didn't care about the romance options? good for you. It doesn't bother you that they aren't included? More power to ya. But for crying out loud, you don't need to treat the ones that did enjoy that aspect of the game like something you'd wipe off your shoe.

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I'm at whatever stage isn't bothered by not having a story to account for my dead character or having an obligatory romance tacked on to a game that the writers don't feel needs one.

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errant_knight wrote...

They've said that how you dealt with the archdemon will be important in the expansion, so the ultimate sacrifice matters. The fact that a player who desires it can handwave the ending to make it that there character didn't do the sacrifice merely changes the game choice, it doesn't affect how that choice will be dealt with in the game. It also doesn't force other characters into a similar handwave. So that part doesn't apply, I think.

Re: the romance.... I was initially very disappointed that Alistair wasn't in the party, but accepted it almost immediately. He's only been king (in my playthrough) for a matter of months, and he and the PC have different responsibilities that would logically mean that they're apart at times. Also, they haven't ruled out further development of the romances in later expansions. So...one mission of relatively short term where they're apart? Not such a big deal.

Taking it outside my own game, the epilogues make it clear that Morrigan is going to be gone for a while. Zevran and Leiliana aren't wardens, so there's no reason for them to be on a mission to take control of warden holdings and recruit new wardens. It's true that there's no apparent reason for Oghren to be there, either, but I suspect that will be part of the new area of the deep roads. He may have a specific reason to go there. There will have to be some reason outside grey warden business.

If writers try and shoehorn things into a story that don't logically go there, you tend to end up with a mess, so I fully accept their decisions.


I agree. I accepted the fact that Alistair is a king, first of all king and then Warden. While i am just a Warden and his wife, not necesesary queen. And since you are the hero of Ferelden, the mighty Grey Warden, the people look up to you to rebuild the clan.

And the thing with Zevran/Leliana...they shouldn't be in this, as they are not part of the grey wardens as you said. But to make people happy, a cameo would have been nice. As for Morrigan, she will surley return. She is the poster girl.

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Bratt1204 wrote...

Aybeden wrote...

Grog415 wrote...

Get a girlfriend and get over it.


Maybe I would, but I don't think my wife would like it. :P

(Don't we just love these forum trolls. :D)


Seriously :sick:


With a name like Grog, could they be anything other than a Troll? maybe an Orc.

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Lady Jess wrote...

Osena109 wrote...

tbh i Romanced morrigan one time and for the most part i was unimpressed by it i just done the deed with her so i might live after that so no Romance is fine by me its game people not real life


Your argument was fine, right up until the real life part. Just because people are disappointed something they enjoyed in a game is being put on hold/not included in this release, doesn't mean they don't have a real life. You didn't care about the romance options? good for you. It doesn't bother you that they aren't included? More power to ya. But for crying out loud, you don't need to treat the ones that did enjoy that aspect of the game like something you'd wipe off your shoe.


I never said get alife now did i? i just said its a game not real life nor would  treat any one like that like  gum id  scrap off my shoe id like you to read befor you post next time

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Cuthlan wrote...

I'm at whatever stage isn't bothered by not having a story to account for my dead character or having an obligatory romance tacked on to a game that the writers don't feel needs one.


So am I.

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I have to say my excitement for this expac has gone steadily down hill...due to disappointment. But I will play it and see how it goes. Sigrun interests me...Orlesian warden not so much. Oghren not so much hehe At least they fixed the RTO content..it ports now from what I understand.

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Oh one other thing..maybe our modder community can do a one-up and make that Ultimate Sacrifice matter...you never know. Great things are accomplished by modders. :)

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errant_knight wrote...

They've said that how you dealt with the archdemon will be important in the expansion, so the ultimate sacrifice matters. The fact that a player who desires it can handwave the ending to make it that there character didn't do the sacrifice merely changes the game choice, it doesn't affect how that choice will be dealt with in the game. It also doesn't force other characters into a similar handwave. So that part doesn't apply, I think.

Re: the romance.... I was initially very disappointed that Alistair wasn't in the party, but accepted it almost immediately. He's only been king (in my playthrough) for a matter of months, and he and the PC have different responsibilities that would logically mean that they're apart at times. Also, they haven't ruled out further development of the romances in later expansions. So...one mission of relatively short term where they're apart? Not such a big deal.

Taking it outside my own game, the epilogues make it clear that Morrigan is going to be gone for a while. Zevran and Leiliana aren't wardens, so there's no reason for them to be on a mission to take control of warden holdings and recruit new wardens. It's true that there's no apparent reason for Oghren to be there, either, but I suspect that will be part of the new area of the deep roads. He may have a specific reason to go there. There will have to be some reason outside grey warden business.

If writers try and shoehorn things into a story that don't logically go there, you tend to end up with a mess, so I fully accept their decisions.


The point about Leliana is that if romanced, the epilogue led to her continuing to accompany the warden, so there is every reason for her to be there.

However, as I said, I am at the acceptance stage (sort of) but it is a reluctant acceptance and subject to my warden and her being brought together again and the romance restored at some time.

Modifié par Aybeden, 06 mars 2010 - 10:57 .


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Ayebeden is correct. There is every reason for Leliana and Zev to return.



I'm still excited about Awakening though. Anders and Mhairi intrigue me. And It'll be fun kicking the Penny Arcade rogue in the face (if possible).

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The way they handled US bothers me, but I don't really care about romances (Morrigan is gone, and the Prince-Consort character courted nobody, the US'ed character had Leliana).

I even replayed the end of the Redeemer playthrough to keep Loghain alive so I can call him daddy. This compensates me for everything.

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I think when it comes to the "text box endings", those are meant to provide closure to those who will never play another DA game.



When it comes to continuing expansions, I think there will be a few loose ends. Remember, the imported save game is not the "Post Correlation", where you can make some decisions, but the Post Campaign. That tells me a few dialog choices made there won't matter in the long run. Depending on what happens, I think there might be a few things that won't gel completely, but can easily be explained a bit--for instance, if you decided to Travel with Lelianna, maybe she needed to visit somebody which gave you time to do this. And if you were working with the King/Queen, maybe the others have their own important missions.



In some cases, I think there will always be something that will annoy the more nitpicky people for continuity. The important thing to consider is how much every single choice really needs to matter in the long run.

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I wanted to only play my HFN through but after seen the demo i have decided resurrecting my FAW becaue trying the battlemage spec is going to be too great and the darkspawn shall once again feel her wrath

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Alikain wrote...

I wanted to only play my HFN through but after seen the demo i have decided resurrecting my FAW becaue trying the battlemage spec is going to be too great and the darkspawn shall once again feel her wrath


My mage is currently a blood mage/spirit healer, I'm hoping that keeper is available to learn, it sounded like it was and looks awesome.

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No romance ? Not an issue. Bioware were upfront about it and explained that it didn't mean romances were dead, just on ice for this expansion. IMO Bioware handled this well.



No support for the US ending ? I'm disappointed because it's taken weeks to get anything out of Bioware on this. I was hoping the lack of communication meant they were hoping to fix it so, in the interim, they couldn't say one way or the other. Now it looks like they were running away from or trying to ignore the issue. That makes me sad that they couldn't be upfront with us in this instance. IMO Bioware handled this poorly.

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I always accepted the romances bit, never bothered me much in the first place- other things have, and I'm still at the Angry stage with those;.

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corret me if i am wrong but is there Euro ending as well or is this US ending refering to the PC?

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Aybeden wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

They've said that how you dealt with the archdemon will be important in the expansion, so the ultimate sacrifice matters. The fact that a player who desires it can handwave the ending to make it that there character didn't do the sacrifice merely changes the game choice, it doesn't affect how that choice will be dealt with in the game. It also doesn't force other characters into a similar handwave. So that part doesn't apply, I think.

Re: the romance.... I was initially very disappointed that Alistair wasn't in the party, but accepted it almost immediately. He's only been king (in my playthrough) for a matter of months, and he and the PC have different responsibilities that would logically mean that they're apart at times. Also, they haven't ruled out further development of the romances in later expansions. So...one mission of relatively short term where they're apart? Not such a big deal.

Taking it outside my own game, the epilogues make it clear that Morrigan is going to be gone for a while. Zevran and Leiliana aren't wardens, so there's no reason for them to be on a mission to take control of warden holdings and recruit new wardens. It's true that there's no apparent reason for Oghren to be there, either, but I suspect that will be part of the new area of the deep roads. He may have a specific reason to go there. There will have to be some reason outside grey warden business.

If writers try and shoehorn things into a story that don't logically go there, you tend to end up with a mess, so I fully accept their decisions.


The point about Leliana is that if romanced, the epilogue led to her continuing to accompany the warden, so there is every reason for her to be there.

However, as I said, I am at the acceptance stage (sort of) but it is a reluctant acceptance and subject to my warden and her being brought together again and the romance restored at some time.


There's every reason for her to be part of the warden's life, but not to accompany him/her on matters of purely warden business. The joining is highly secret, and not a matter for non-wardens under most circumstances.

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Osena109 wrote...

corret me if i am wrong but is there Euro ending as well or is this US ending refering to the PC?


This stands for 'ultimate sacrifice' not 'United States.' ;)