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[shedevil3001]

i dont think its bioware to blame here i think this has ea written all over it

[Sharleth]

I accept that this is a video game and there are going to be limitations.

I just believed this game to be a way of creating our very own story and I got the impression we would be able to continue the story ( or end it with our death) due to the fact there are so many choices within the game to choose from.

What's disappointing for me is if your grey warden sacrificed him/herself in the origin story you can upload them in the next? What ever happened to having a statue in your honor?

Also, what if you didn't make Alistair king and kept him a grey warden? Are they going to make up some story in this expansion that made him king anyway? It seems to me if we get to have a choice then that choice should stick. Otherwise I'd rather not have one at all!

[shedevil3001]

i'm not sure how they will get around that with alistair remaining a grey warden, unless they didnt think that 1 through and thought every 1 would put him on the throne but ea just rush everything to get it out as quick as possible so they probably didnt get the chance to come up with anything, maybe it will be explained in a follow up expansion

[shedevil3001]

i was dissapointed but the fact that bioware said the romances havent ended they are just put on hold as they are trying to tell a new story that needed more attention gives me a bit of hope that my fhn hasnt seen the end of her true love alistair and that it will be picked back up on in another expansion hopefully it still bothers me a bit that he wont be at my side though but i will see how things go in awakening before i say anything bad about it if its not explained well

[zeektan]

Stage 4: wouldn't be fun with out the flirting anymore (....haysss....guess my dreams of making love to ogrehn just went down the drain... bwahahhahaha

[shedevil3001]

if you give him gifts when you lose approval instead of just anytime i find it works better

[zeektan]

Just tell him it has to end. I personally enjoyed Zevran's company...pair him with wynn for some comic relief )

[shedevil3001]

i liked zevran i just didnt like been in a romance with him he was too arrogant for my liking i prefered alistair he was more substantial

[Finiffa]

Sabriana wrote...

I'm with the 'disappointed' crowd. I like the 'romance' aspect, and I understand that it there can be several reasons to not include them, but just saying that it would be 'shoehorned' or couldn't really work because this is an expansion is not valid. For example, HotU is also only an expansion, yet, it had a great romance option, at least for femPCs.

My favorite PC would just never make an appearance in the expansion, simply because if Zevran can't be there - her story is done. She and him can be happily rebuilding the GWs. When fully romanced, Zevran becomes very protective and is loyal to a fault. There is no way he would let her go off alone into a danger-zone, even if he had to stealth-sneak after her. So like I said, no Zevran will retire both, my HNF and Zevran permanently.

.....

I don't plan on ever buying and paying for something that does not give me what I want, just because there are people who don't know that individual tastes, opinions, and choices are..., well, individual.

I am with you here. I am also very disappointed. I will play the game but I will start with the Orlesian Warden since I do not want to waste the memories of my old characters if the expansion is mainly about fighting darkspawn, which in itself isn't very interesting or different. It feels like everything I liked about DAO is being skipped. No romances/relations, no recognizing hard choices like US, loosing DLC items that I used for RP reasons....
Well, we will see but I lost much of my excitement along the way.

[shedevil3001]

i'm going to use some of my characters and maybe an orlesian as i have all my characters backed up so it means if i dont like how things play out in awakening i can still use them in dao

[Abyss Vixen]

I personaly dont have any issue with romance not being a large part of awakening. The romances i did do will most likely continue in a future expansion and tbh i'm not to intrested in flirting with oghren or one of the others. This expansion is more about the realisation that the blight has evolved, More than the romantic save the world story.

So i remain fairly excited, And will judge the quality of this expansion after i completed it .

Modifié par Abyss Vixen, 07 mars 2010 - 06:01 .

[Lady Jess]

Jax Sparrow wrote...



Thank you for dealing with all that RL stuff but this relates how?  Judging by the preview via XFire the Devs showed, our toons will be going on more than "one deployement".  We have a new base of operations and new toons to get to know mentally and/or carnally.  Some mention of this by NPCs our toons married themselves too would have been logical.

A depolyment can consist of one large central mission, and several smaller ones. Bottom line, you go away from everything familiar to do your duty. Family, non enlisted friends, wife, kids. And noone said it wouldn't be mentioned. In fact they HAVE said it would be acknowledged.

Now, Alistair and the HNF...that I guess would fall under dual military marriage//they can be deployed/not deployed seperately. Guess Rank has it's privilidges  King > Commander...lol

Modifié par Lady Jess, 07 mars 2010 - 05:25 .

[Sable Rhapsody]

*sigh* Why is it that every time BioWare does something people don't like, EA gets dragged into it? While I too have my problems with EA, they've stopped being the absolute hellspawn of ultimate evil in recent years. And while I can see their fingers in BioWare's marketing and DLC/preorder bonus phail, the core games are still entirely BioWare.

As for Awakening, I'm of two minds. The US ending not being supported makes perfect sense to me--it's like the "suicide" ending of ME2. Yes, you can do it. No, we're not letting you import it. There's precedent for this. On the other hand, the expansions of NWN did include romances, and the TOB expansion for BG2 didn't include new romances, but continued the previous ones. I think the scenario for DA:A is likely due to game constraints because of the MASSIVE amounts of iterations in how peoples' DA:O game could have gone down. It's only a 15 hour game or so. (It also makes me worry about ME3, but that's a different story.)

But the point of RPGs isn't getting your mack on with someone.  It's immersion, story, character development, and choice.  And if the game still hits all those buttons, I'll be perfectly capable of enjoying it.

Modifié par Sable Rhapsody, 08 mars 2010 - 11:00 .

[MaxQuartiroli]

shedevil3001 wrote...

i was dissapointed but the fact that bioware said the romances havent ended they are just put on hold as they are trying to tell a new story that needed more attention gives me a bit of hope that my fhn hasnt seen the end of her true love alistair and that it will be picked back up on in another expansion hopefully it still bothers me a bit that he wont be at my side though but i will see how things go in awakening before i say anything bad about it if its not explained well

shedevil...

putting old romances on "hold" is just a sweet lie... 
If they didn't reconnect the romance, this time they will never do it on a future.. Maybe they will do new romances for new characters but I believe we should forget our old romances...
Stop dreaming, because it's obvious that they won't reconnect old romances in an xpac. even in a future, because in order to do this there would be a lot of work they are unable to put into an expansion pack... this is sad but true...
And a sequel will probably have a new story with a new character.. therefore I believe we have 0% possibility to see again in a future game our DA:O romances...

Modifié par MaxQuartiroli, 08 mars 2010 - 11:19 .

[Vim]

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

shedevil3001 wrote...

i was dissapointed but the fact that bioware said the romances havent ended they are just put on hold as they are trying to tell a new story that needed more attention gives me a bit of hope that my fhn hasnt seen the end of her true love alistair and that it will be picked back up on in another expansion hopefully it still bothers me a bit that he wont be at my side though but i will see how things go in awakening before i say anything bad about it if its not explained well

shedevil...

putting old romances on "hold" is just a sweet lie... 
If they didn't reconnect the romance, this time they will never do it on a future.. Maybe they will do new romances for new characters but I believe we should forget our old romances...
Stop dreaming, because it's obvious that they won't reconnect old romances in an xpac. even in a future, because in order to do this there would be a lot of work they are unable to put into an expansion pack... this is sad but true...
And a sequel will probably have a new story with a new character.. therefore I believe we have 0% possibility to see again in a future game our DA:O romances...

I wouldn't go so far as to say 0%.  Morrigan will most definitely be returning at some point, probably DA 2, and she was one of the four possible romances.  And if Morrigan is returning at some point, the odds aren't bad that we'll see the others as well.   Nevertheless bringing back 4 characters from an old game is a sizable bit of overhead for the developers and I can understand their desire to keep the baggage from previous games to a minimum. That's not to say romances are "baggage", but to make them accessible to new players who haven't played the previous game you'd have to add even more dialog possibilities. And it quickly adds up to a lot of development hours working out all the different possible permutations you can have with these characters based on decisions from the previous game.  There's also the issue that if you only brought one or two of them back, the fans of the others would scream how unfair you were.  So I can understand why the developers liked being able to start with a clean slate and only brought over the companion with whom you had the opportunity to interact least in the original game.  That doesn't mean I like it, and I think they could have done a better job of handling the ending in Origins so it didn't created these dashed expectations.  But I can understand where they're coming from.

Modifié par Vim, 08 mars 2010 - 12:58 .

[Sable Rhapsody]

MaxQuartiroli wrote...
putting old romances on "hold" is just a sweet lie... 
If they didn't reconnect the romance, this time they will never do it on a future.. Maybe they will do new romances for new characters but I believe we should forget our old romances...
Stop dreaming, because it's obvious that they won't reconnect old romances in an xpac. even in a future, because in order to do this there would be a lot of work they are unable to put into an expansion pack... this is sad but true...
And a sequel will probably have a new story with a new character.. therefore I believe we have 0% possibility to see again in a future game our DA:O romances...

So I guess what BioWare said about putting the ME1 romances on ice for ME2 is just them lying through their teeth, eh?   

And to be perfectly honest, I'm happy with DA:O the way it is, and I'd be fine either way if subsequent games include old companions or not.  BioWare's expansions for NWN were for new campaigns/characters.  People freaked out, but I think it was better that way.  DA:O as is feels complete to be--the darkspawn defeated, the Blight over, the Warden and his/her companions turning out...however they turn out.  Would I like to see more of the old gang?  Definitely.  But I'd be happy with it if in sequels and expansions, they explore more of Thedas than just confining themselves to Ferelden.

[shedevil3001]

i'd like to explore more of ferelden but i hope that i can still have 1 or 2 of the old companions back and maybe 1 or 2 from awakening at some point through

[Vim]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

MaxQuartiroli wrote...
putting old romances on "hold" is just a sweet lie... 
If they didn't reconnect the romance, this time they will never do it on a future.. Maybe they will do new romances for new characters but I believe we should forget our old romances...
Stop dreaming, because it's obvious that they won't reconnect old romances in an xpac. even in a future, because in order to do this there would be a lot of work they are unable to put into an expansion pack... this is sad but true...
And a sequel will probably have a new story with a new character.. therefore I believe we have 0% possibility to see again in a future game our DA:O romances...

So I guess what BioWare said about putting the ME1 romances on ice for ME2 is just them lying through their teeth, eh?   

And to be perfectly honest, I'm happy with DA:O the way it is, and I'd be fine either way if subsequent games include old companions or not.  BioWare's expansions for NWN were for new campaigns/characters.  People freaked out, but I think it was better that way.  DA:O as is feels complete to be--the darkspawn defeated, the Blight over, the Warden and his/her companions turning out...however they turn out.  Would I like to see more of the old gang?  Definitely.  But I'd be happy with it if in sequels and expansions, they explore more of Thedas than just confining themselves to Ferelden.

Whether or not DA:O felt complete to a certain extent depended on the ending you had. The archdemon might have been dead, but there were quite a few dangling plot hooks still left open depending on the choices you made during the game.

[Wournos]

I don't know which stage I am at. Certainly not acceptance. Not willingly. Sure, I understand that duty often comes before personal life, and I sort of agree with the person on the first page saying it will give us/our character a chance to miss their loved one. And I agree that nothing should be "shoehorned". But I unwillingly accept what Awakening will bring. I want my dwarven woman rogue to explore Awakening with Leliana. But I will not import her unless I have some sort of solid information about how the relationship is explained. Instead, I am pondering dealing with Awakening with an Orlesian warden.

What can I say? I am stubborn and set in my ways.

[shedevil3001]

its worse having your betrothed there and not been able to even romance them i mean come on in real life the 1 you love right in front of you and you arent all over them your like erm buisness comes first. I dont think so!

[Lucy Glitter]

 I think I am stuck at stage 4.