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[DapperDan77]

So Miranda...I like the story behind the character, and her combat abilities are decent (squad damage is ftw). But, I find Yvonne Strahovski's voice acting for the character to be TERRIBLE.  She delivers her lines in an almost monotone, with barely any emotion. It's all just...flat.
 Which really sucks, as I wanted to like Miranda. I watch Chuck regularly, and she seems to do that role just fine, so I was kinda excited when they announced she would be voicing a ME2 character. Maybe she's just not as good at acting when she's just reading straight from a script and not on a set? Or maybe it's that she is better at acting when not using her native Aussie accent? I dunno, but whatever the reason, I wince often at her delivery I guess being in the very first scene alongside Mr. Sheen didn't help. His quality voice acting just made her flat delivery stick out even more. Hell, just about the whole cast is amazing, 'cept for her. Makes me hope that she gets a very minor role (if any) for ME3.
 Your opinions? Who likes her voice acting? Is she anyones favourite character?

[Spyndel]

Miranda has lines? Its odd, Im usually not paying attention to that when she's onscreen...

Its interesting you mention Sheen as a positive comparison though. While he is certainly a great actor, I found him the most like he was just reading lines of a page for a paycheck , of any of the characters (outside of the protagonist, of course).  I thought Yvonne sounded fairly natural.

I don't blame any of the actors though. At the end of the day you hold the direction they received responsible.

Modifié par Spyndel, 07 mars 2010 - 02:19 .

[Comrade Bork]

I loved her voice acting, I hate it when actors have emotion bleeding from their fingernails. It can get tiring and over-dramatized. I prefer it when the characters sound real, and I feel yvonne did this very well.

[Frybread76]

Yvonne Strahovski is hot. I wish Bioware had done a better job of mapping her face, which turned out to be much wider in the game than it is in real life. But, all in all, I was happy with Miranda and her TA-uh I mean VA.

[Shadeling]

Wow, really? I thought her voice acting was spot on.

[danien.grey]

It's good to have a different mix of actors conveying certain amounts of emotion and zest to their characters...otherwise the dialogue would sound like a ridiculous B-grade movie where everyone overemphasizes their lines.



Oh and yes, Miranda is pretty hot, but I just wish they had done a better job of scanning Yvonne Strahovski's face.

[padaE]

I think her voice acting is very good.

Modifié par padaE, 07 mars 2010 - 03:16 .

[keegdarv1]

Really? i think thats weird as i fond her voice acting to be good it felt more real it didnt feel like she was acting as a character it sounded and felt like she was being her everyday self she was being the character i could hear the emotion in her voice when she spoke she didnt need to "act" emotionally to get her points over, i thought she was one of the best "voice actors" of the ME2 group, but<shurgs> alot of people want their voice actors to be over emotinally or over act to get points over

[Iz Stoik zI]

If that's monotone, then what do we call Jennifer Hale's voice acting?



I thought it was pretty good. That accent has me hooked, I'm having a hard time resisting Miranda so I can preserve my romance with Ashley.

[OniGanon]

I was worried from what I heard in the trailers, but once I'd heard her in game I was pretty impressed. She sounds really good. Miranda isn't a very emotive character, so it makes sense to have emotion understated in her voice anyway and I think using an Australian accented actor was a good choice for her.



IMO our accent doesn't commonly have a lot of inflection. If someone sounds very emotive in Australian accent, it sounds a little fake to our ears. Whenever a tourist from the US (particularly the southern states) asks me for directions, I can't help but think they sound oddly dramatic for such a mundane subject...



In addition, we're apparently prone to speaking too quickly, blurring our words into each other, inflecting upwards at the end of a sentence (which makes a statement sound slightly like a question), casually throwing insults and expecting you not to get offended, asking a lot of rheotorical questions, and giving answers stating what is not, rather than what is (eg 'how are you?' 'yeah not too bad' 'how much was that?' 'not cheap!').



Finally, we call them prawns, and we do not commonly barbeque them.

[Tryst]

I liked her voice and shrimp and prawns are different.

[Commander Shepard]

I think her voice is hot as hell

[miltos33]

I am pleasantly surprised that some people can appreciate her voice for a change.

[Blackveldt]

DapperDan77 wrote...

So Miranda...I like the story behind the character, and her combat abilities are decent (squad damage is ftw). But, I find Yvonne Strahovski's voice acting for the character to be TERRIBLE.  She delivers her lines in an almost monotone, with barely any emotion. It's all just...flat.
 Which really sucks, as I wanted to like Miranda. I watch Chuck regularly, and she seems to do that role just fine, so I was kinda excited when they announced she would be voicing a ME2 character. Maybe she's just not as good at acting when she's just reading straight from a script and not on a set? Or maybe it's that she is better at acting when not using her native Aussie accent? I dunno, but whatever the reason, I wince often at her delivery I guess being in the very first scene alongside Mr. Sheen didn't help. His quality voice acting just made her flat delivery stick out even more. Hell, just about the whole cast is amazing, 'cept for her. Makes me hope that she gets a very minor role (if any) for ME3.
 Your opinions? Who likes her voice acting? Is she anyones favourite character?

You're absolutely correct imo.  It's because voice acting is completely different than on-screen acting.  It's similar to theatre acting in a way because you have to portray a character or emotion almost entirely with your voice since the audience cannot necessarily see your individual expression.  It is very difficult.  Back when I was a huge drama geek (okay...still am *cough*), we did a lot of voice exercises in addition to improv.  It takes a great deal of skill to be able to still sound like you're acting convincingly yet project your voice loud enough to the back of a theatre so you can actually be heard.  And theatre acting still has body language and whatnot; I can't imagine how difficult it would be to be acting only with your voice without any kind of visual aid on your part.  It's really no surprise that Miranda's VA couldn't make this transition quite smoothly; not many could.

[Spyndel]

Blackveldt wrote...

DapperDan77 wrote...

So Miranda...I like the story behind the character, and her combat abilities are decent (squad damage is ftw). But, I find Yvonne Strahovski's voice acting for the character to be TERRIBLE.  She delivers her lines in an almost monotone, with barely any emotion. It's all just...flat.
 Which really sucks, as I wanted to like Miranda. I watch Chuck regularly, and she seems to do that role just fine, so I was kinda excited when they announced she would be voicing a ME2 character. Maybe she's just not as good at acting when she's just reading straight from a script and not on a set? Or maybe it's that she is better at acting when not using her native Aussie accent? I dunno, but whatever the reason, I wince often at her delivery I guess being in the very first scene alongside Mr. Sheen didn't help. His quality voice acting just made her flat delivery stick out even more. Hell, just about the whole cast is amazing, 'cept for her. Makes me hope that she gets a very minor role (if any) for ME3.
 Your opinions? Who likes her voice acting? Is she anyones favourite character?

You're absolutely correct imo.  It's because voice acting is completely different than on-screen acting.  It's similar to theatre acting in a way because you have to portray a character or emotion almost entirely with your voice since the audience cannot necessarily see your individual expression.  It is very difficult.  Back when I was a huge drama geek (okay...still am *cough*), we did a lot of voice exercises in addition to improv.  It takes a great deal of skill to be able to still sound like you're acting convincingly yet project your voice loud enough to the back of a theatre so you can actually be heard.  And theatre acting still has body language and whatnot; I can't imagine how difficult it would be to be acting only with your voice without any kind of visual aid on your part.  It's really no surprise that Miranda's VA couldn't make this transition quite smoothly; not many could.

I disagree with this.  I would much rather have the characters sound naturalistic than exaggerated and over the top like old 30's and 40's radio dramas.

I don't want to hear hear Master Thespian *ACTING!!!* ™.

For the most part, I thought Yvonne sounded natural and realistic.

Furthermore, even at it's worst, the voice work in ME2 is generally heads and shoulders above most other games, and voice acting complaint threads come across especially nitpicky.

[Kronner]

I like her aussie accent

[izmirtheastarach]

Spyndel wrote...

Furthermore, even at it's worst, the voice work in ME2 is generally heads and shoulders above most other games, and voice acting complaint threads come across especially nitpicky.

Second. This thread seems to be based on the assumption that because Miranda isn't an emotional character that this must somehow be a reflection on the VA. It couldn't possibly be that she was written that way, could it? Her voice acting fits the character perfectly.

As to the nitpicking, it is exactly that. I thought all the voice actors did and excellent job. Even the much malinged Mark Meer has improved quite a bit. The only time I have trouble is with the occasional piece of poorly written dialogue that gets left in. But there is just so much of it in the game, it really makes no difference at all.

[Blackveldt]

Spyndel wrote...
I don't want to hear hear Master Thespian *ACTING!!!* ™.

Actually, I'm pretty sure you do since this consists of the majority of the VA cast.  'Thespian' and 'over-dramatic' are not synonymous.  Some of the best actors (whether VA or on-screen) have some kind of background in theatre.  Your sarcasm isn't helping.

For the most part, I thought Yvonne sounded natural and realistic.

It's a matter of perspective and opinion, so *shrug*.  I just happened to be pretty obsessed with a lot of 'thespians'--Emma Thompson, Anthony Hopkins, Ian McKellen, Katharine Hepburn, etc.  So when I hear Miranda's VA, I can really tell which lines she has the most trouble with and when she's sounding more forced.  If you compare her VA directly to her on-screen acting, it's very easy (imo) to tell the difference in acting ability; she's much better on Chuck.  MUCH better.  I would even consider it an insult to say that her VA is on par with her on-screen capability since I consider her a good actress; I wouldn't watch Chuck otherwise.  Like I said, it's just a very different type of acting.

Modifié par Blackveldt, 07 mars 2010 - 10:08 .

[DapperDan77]

Maviarab wrote...



You must be the only one, she is the
best of the voice actors....pay more attention to what she is saying and
when next time....

No, she really isn't. It's because I paid attention that I'm bringing it up.

izmirtheastarach
wrote...

Second. This thread seems to be based on the assumption
that because Miranda isn't an emotional character that this must
somehow be a reflection on the VA. It couldn't possibly be that she was
written that way, could it? Her voice acting fits the character
perfectly.

I get the impression that the people who like her voice acting aren't too familiar with Aussie accents maybe?
Yes, I get that she's not particularly an emotional character. Nonetheless, there is emotion there at times (Romancing her for example, or talking about her sister). And anyway, being "emotionless" does not mean speaking in a monotone. Even unemotional people still put tone and inflections in their voice when communicating.
Unfortunately, Yvonne just doesn't voice act this part very well imo. It's nothing to do with the character, and everything to do with the actor. The actor is who I have a problem with, not the character.

Modifié par DapperDan77, 08 mars 2010 - 08:06 .

[Phoenix_Steel001]

I would say that Mirandas VA was one of the best and most subtle in the game.

In the beginning it was dripping contempt, then got gradually warmer as you progressed. I say "subtle" because I only picked up on it on the second play through. Such subtleties do tend to go over people heads, it went over mine the first time around.

It really is a matter of personal opinion though. Acting; be it voice, screen, stage, etc; is an art not a science. Its all in the eye (or ear, in this case) of the beholder. 

[FlintlockJazz]

I agree with the OP sadly. I also think they should have stuck with the original concept artwork for Miranda and not gone and changed it to make it look like her, her appearance doesn't fit the character. I also agree that, especially with games, famous brand actors just don't work doing VA work, the best VA work comes from those whose primary acting work is doing VA work, just as those who write the best computer game stories are not the Hollywood filmwriters but those who write computer games, such as the guys at Bioware. Sooner they realise this the better, the last thing we need is having Keanu Reeves trying to do VA work in ME3, the guy can't act as it is.

[falco117]

entire chuck cast for VAs in ME 3

[ZOMBO6F]

imo her voice acting is very good.I agree with Phoenix_Steel001

[spacehamsterZH]

Hmm... I actually agree that she comes across as very stiff and unnatural in that cutscene at the beginning, but that's probably her weakest moment in the entire game. That scene aside, I'm gonna have to agree that the whole point of the character is that she's somewhat cold and distant through most of the plot with some of her loyalty quest and the warming up to Shepard towards the end if you pursue that being the counterpoints, which also worked very well. It's subtle, but, uh, I thought the dialogue not being as ham-fisted and overacted as in practically every other videogame was one of the clear strengths of Mass Effect?!



Ask yourself this - could you have a race like the Elcor in any other game you can think of? I don't think so. Because videogame characters usually do broadcast their emotions this obviously. It wouldn't be funny in, say, MGS4 for that exact reason.