Baracuda6977 wrote...
Godfather is an amazing movie, get that **** outta there
Matter of opinion. My wife and I were excited to see the "classic" when we watched it, oh, it must have been over a decade ago now. Neither of us enjoyed it - and we saw it in a theater full of people who loved it with friends who loved it, so the setting couldn't have been better to enjoy it.
you are hard pressed to find a suburban male white teen (i assume those are your friends) who doesn't like rap, its wierd like that
Huh, well, I live in central Wisconsin (over a hundred miles from any
suburb of Milwaukee) and am in my mid-30's, and while I have a nephew who's a white male teen he's into country music and christian rock, so I'm going to have to
dismiss those preconceptions of yours (my nieces, both adults, don't like rap, either.)
My personal circle of friends (including people I met when I lived in Chicago for 5 years) have a disproportionate number of people who like rap, and a handful who like gangster rap. It is really only the ones who like gangster rap (with one exception) who enjoy GTA games. My friends ages are mid twenties to early forties, so again, sorry about the preconceptions of your flying out the window.
Now this is anecdotal - looking at my couple dozen friends from several mid-west locations is NOT an adequate sample size to comment on gamers as a whole.
But I never did. I had merely said, initially, that for the people who couldn't understand why someone would want to play a JRPG (or Final Fantasy in particular) that I understand the feeling of confusion, that I myself couldn't understand why people played GTA for fun AND THEN gave a reason why - that media that glorifies criminals or "bad guys" AND music that is all about treating women like property and shooting police officers (and each other) probably BOTHER ME MORE than whatever it is about JRPGs that bothers those who don't like the games (linearity and guys who look like girls, whatever the complaints are, feel extremely superficial to me compared to beating people to death for money, abusing women and stealing.)
I said further, in response to someone saying that "most gamers" play GTA with a sense of satire and sarcasm, as if playing the mobster is mocking the mobster, that I didn't know a single person who played the game like that personally. I didn't say they didn't exist (I trust that this is how trueKieran plays the game as he brought it up) but that I didn't know anyone who played the game like that.
I have no proof of what "most gamers" who play GTA think, but I do know about the people whom I know who play it. One friend who was really into GTA 4 also really enjoys QT movies like Kill Bill and Pulp Fiction, watches shows like Sopranos and The Wire, and all he listens to is rap. And no, he's not a suburban teenager - he works at a newspaper and is originally from Michigan (and no, not Detroit.)
I will say that if mocking a genre of fiction that you don't like sells games well like GTA, I cannot understand why games like Armed & Dangerous (which mocked shooters) and inXile's Bard's Tale (which mocks fantasy CRPGs and all their tropes) didn't do much better in the marketplace.
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Bringing it full circle - I have said before and I'll say again, this "us v.s. them" mentalitly really bothers me. Player A likes Final Fantasy. Player B likes Baldur's Gate. Do they have to mock and belittle each other to prove they like their respective games?
If you prefer large inventories and linear stories instead or if you prefer open sandbox and story choices, do you have to hate on the opposite? Really?
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