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It's official, Final Fantasy XIII is a failure.


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#176
Cascadus

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Except Sterling isn't a professional troll. He states his honest opinion. Period. He didn't like it and the fact people assume he enjoys telling people a game many people are looking forward to, in his opinion, is mediocre is laughable. The fact you assume he has fun shitting on games is odd, because who WANTS a game to be bad? In a perfect world, there would be no bad games. He's far from a professional troll and his opinions can get rather insightful and interesting. If he's suddenly 'biased' and a 'troll' because he disagrees with you, that just says something. He didn't like Mass Effect either, so now I assume he is the worst person on the planet ever.

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MerinTB

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Sterling isn't the worst person in the world to me. And I have no idea if his reviews are honest or calculated for effect - I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he's stating his honest opinions.



It's the STYLE he writes his reviews in. The mocking tones, hyperbolic language and extreme adjectives. It has been years since I've bought a game review magazine and I don't often read game reviews as for years the dominant style of reviews was to belittle and mock even things that the reviewer liked - what feels like a cultural meme right now of "its not cool to like anything, so even if you LIKE something you must mock it a little."



It works for people. Some people love comedians who's whole routine is ridiculing people, even audience members. I, personally, don't find that funny.



And, personally, I prefer the kinds of reviews that PC Gamer usually gives (it seems to stand out to me) - reviews that look at pros and cons, give details on game features and tries to take an unbiased view.

That review of FF XIII, plus other things that I skimmed that Sterling wrote, are in a sarcastic, rude style that turns me off. He could give Freedom Force a super-high review score but if the review were still written in the same style I would STILL not like his review style.



It is really outside of what he rates the games.



It is not about how he rated one game.



Either you believe me, or you don't. But that's the last I'll say on this reviewer.

#178
7th_Phoenix

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My sister would cry if she read this thread. She wants FFXIII so much...



Haha! :D

#179
Fexelea

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Cascadus wrote...

Except Sterling isn't a professional troll.


He self-describes as one. Why should I bypass his own description of himself?

Cascadus wrote...
He states his honest opinion. Period


This will come in handy in a moment...

Cascadus wrote...
He didn't like it and the fact people assume he enjoys telling people a game many people are looking forward to, in his opinion, is mediocre is laughable. The fact you assume he has fun shitting on games is odd, because
who WANTS a game to be bad? In a perfect world, there would be no bad
games.


Again, he has said himself that "it never hurts to start a new flamewars!". So yes, I can see how people might assume he actually does it on purpose.

Cascadus wrote...
He's far from a professional troll and his opinions can get rather insightful and interesting.


That's just your opinion. Others may differ.

Cascadus wrote...
If he's suddenly 'biased' and a 'troll' because he disagrees with you, that just says something.


No, he is not "biased" or a "troll" because he disagrees with anyone. He is

1. Biased because:

Cascadus wrote...
He states his honest opinion. Period


OPINIONS are BIASED.

2. A troll because:
He believes that "it never hurts to start a new flamewars!" to keep your blog afloat.

Cascadus wrote...
He didn't like Mass Effect either, so now I assume he is the worst person on the planet ever.


Well you can assume whatever you like.

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Wrath of Bong

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'OPINIONS are BIASED" So, the is no such thing as someone playing FFXIII (may even be a fan of the series) but in the end, found it disappointing? What about those people who's opinions are neutral, as in they don't think it's worse game ever or it's good gift to gamers, but just "meh".

As for "it never hurts to start a new flamewars!" Yes, he said that but you assume just cause he didn't like FFXIII, he just wanted to start a flamewar? So, secretly he likes FFXIII but just gave it a negative review, just so he can start a flamewar?

Did anyone read my solution a back page, this will solve an argument like this.

Modifié par Wrath of Bong, 24 mars 2010 - 06:24 .


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Twitchmonkey

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Wrath of Bong wrote...

'OPINIONS are BIASED" So, the is no such thing as someone playing FFXIII (may even be a fan of the series) but in the end, found it disappointing? What about those people who's opinions are neutral, as in they don't think it's worse game ever or it's good gift to gamers, but just "meh".


An opinion is a subjective thought not purely arrived at through empirical and evidential means. Bias simply means that a person has come to believe something out of a result of a certain disposition or taste. So I would have to agree that from a purely semantical standpoint, this point is fair, though colloquially bias can take on a different meaning.

I think I took this too far. Carry on.

#182
Wrath of Bong

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I was just going to say that but you beat me to it.

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Fexelea

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@Wrath of Bong: All I initially pointed out what that his review is just an opinion, and can hardly be considered an unbiased view. It's not my fault that Cascadus decided to reinvent my post to match what he wanted to say. So yes, I took pleasure in deconstructing a quite silly set of statements. Of course all reviews are subjective. That's the point, and the reason why Merin is right to decide if he/she likes the reviewer before attributing any value to that opinion.

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Wrath of Bong

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I'm not the one to judge, I like to deconstruct people's messages.

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MerinTB

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Fexelea wrote...
That's the point, and the reason why Merin is right to decide if he/she likes the reviewer before attributing any value to that opinion.


Thank you.

That was the point.

#186
Aviation425

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FF XIII is not a failure at all. >=( Aside from FF VIII, it's my favourite Final Fantasy. Well, I don't like Snow much. He's a total freaking tool.

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Stanley Woo

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Le'ts keep the FF13 hate in a single thread, please. Thank you.



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