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Fix for those "Blue" light Crashes: ship, colony, core (UPDATED)


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#51
Herethos

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Might be hard to do on a laptop since I don't think you can, but download evga precision or something to raise the fanspeed on the graphics card before playing the game. Strange that, that particular sequence of events causes the card to overheat. And it only happening on win vista/win 7 with nvidia cards. I still think its a software glitch though.

With a laptop if its old and has been around a bit, they tend to gather dust as well so perhaps give it a good clean once in a while, but its kinda complicated to take apart a laptop just to clean it and easy to damage it. Try vacuuming the vents a centimeter away or so just to make sure that they aren't obstructed with dust, with the laptop switched off.

Modifié par Herethos, 07 avril 2010 - 03:15 .


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Paperdollies wrote...

William e wrote...

Paperdollies wrote...

same with others, game crashes at all 3 spots mentioned. i learnt to come out to shoot when the preatorian stop laser beaming, so i've over comed the 1st and 2nd crash spots, i had to re-do the preatorian boss many many times as my game crashes on me, before i finally got the hang of ducking away from the sight of the blue light, run around and around and shoot at the same time. this made the mission harder than it should be, took me twice as long as this method was really inpracticle. However since i managed to figure out a way to avoid the crash i just baged my complains and carried on playing. But at the IFF core?...unless i can fire without looking at the direction im shooting at?...i dont think i can actually overcome this.
compared to ME1 pc, ME2 pc is really buggy, i've encountered many glitches, but i dont care as long as i enjoy the story. But now, i think this is just really testing my patience.
I brought the game for $99.98 (NZD) when it first came out, so im sure i deserve to expect a much better qualitied work than this. Love the story and characters, but hate the technical probs.
i hope they can fix this problem soon, im not making anymore excuses, or to try some other way to not look at the blue light, because this time it's literaly impossible. ;/
Bioware i hope you can come up with a solution some time soon.

Your loyal fan
Lisa

Good luck I found away to get pass the problem, by putting an exteral fan on my video card during the blue light problems.  The rest of the ame ran fine without the fan as does DAO and ME1.  I tried posting a new post to see if I could get BW to respond, as there have been countless post about this problem.  They locked the post, they didn't like what was being said.  It was Woo who did this, so I believe they don't care.



Image IPB serious? that's just mean then. I mean we expect them to be taking care of us, and listen to our problems, rather than ignoring us. I dont think i can put an external fan on my video card, not when i have a laptop, or is i possible? lol (not really a PC literate person here....Image IPB) It's just that, if i can avoid the light, i would...but the thing is..i have to shoot at it, and only when the blue light is visible may the core take dmg. That's where i think it's impossible to get pass unlike the 1st and 2nd crash spots... ..why cant it be red light instead?? Image IPB

I have a desktop so it was easy to open up and place a exteral fan.  On another post I read they said to get pass the iff mission to move up on the left and then take it out, turn and run back to the start and repeat.  They also stated that it helped to take it out with one shot, I forget witch heavy weopon they used.  Good luck.

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Thanks for the suggestions,

my laptop is fairly new, like only been 2 year's since i brought it. Found my own solution, turned the brightness of the game to -2, since then i've had no problem with the game. Finnished the game yesterday. What can i say? it's an awsome game after all ;)

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Paperdollies wrote...

Thanks for the suggestions,
my laptop is fairly new, like only been 2 year's since i brought it. Found my own solution, turned the brightness of the game to -2, since then i've had no problem with the game. Finnished the game yesterday. What can i say? it's an awsome game after all ;)

Glad to hear that.  I liked tthe game to.  Just wish they didn't have that big bug in it.  Took me two days to find out what was causing it.  LOL.  Now I am tring to find another game to fill the time with, thinking about fallout 3, have played dao and mei and 2 thru several times now to get the ending I wanted.  Enjoy.

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I am really surprised... turning down the brightness seemed to work for me too... I was just stuck on horizon at the first preatorian fight. I'll have to test it some more to see if i'll CTD when I get to the other spots with blue beams. But so far so good.



I also am running Windows 7 64

AMD Athlon 64 3500+

nVidia GeForce 6800GS



odd crashes with an odd fix


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I'm not going to engage in any insult-swapping here, but a huge proportion of the complaints I've just seen in this thread are from people who cannot EXPECT anything from the game because they chose to ignore the minimum, and the various listed bad cards that are unsupported.  Very specifically here, the Geforce 8400 is excluded from support, will not be considered as a reason for any "patch" at all.  VERY SPECIALLY, the awful 8400M is still worse. 

The 8500 GT and 9400 GT (same silicon, new thinner wafer) are borderline cards, not excluded, but only marginally above the official minimum.  The official minimum Geforce 6800 is just too old, really.  The 6800 GT is a great deal better than the 6800 GS and the 6800 Vanilla, and the 6800 XT is just garbage.  A desktop 8600 GT (same card as the 9500 GT, one on a thicker die wafer than the other) ought to be working fairly well, but an 8600M is another kettle of fish.  Some 8600Ms are so badly detuned by the laptop makers that they might as well have renamed them to "8400s". 

Games need to have Mainline (Medium) video cards, and that has meant the "n600" numbers were what counted, and "n400" is for business charts, graphs, presentations, spreadsheets, but not fpr games.  nVIDIA has upset that nomenclature with their 100s, 200s, 300s, and 400s.  The GT240 is the 200 generation's equivalent to the 9600 GT, the 220 is equivalent to the 8600/9500 GT, and the G.210 is the 200 version of the 8400 GS.

Anyone running any crippled business level card should bite the bullet and upgrade a desktop, or run a laptop at very low resolution settings, such as 800 by 600.

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Sorry, I thought I was in edit mode . .

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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 15 avril 2010 - 06:25 .


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Gorath Alpha wrote...

I'm not going to engage in any insult-swapping here, but a huge proportion of the complaints I've just seen in this thread are from people who cannot EXPECT anything from the game because they chose to ignore the minimum, and the various listed bad cards that are unsupported.  Very specifically here, the Geforce 8400 is excluded from support, will not be considered as a reason for any "patch" at all.  VERY SPECIALLY, the awful 8400M is still worse. 

The 8500 GT and 9400 GT (same silicon, new thinner wafer) are borderline cards, not excluded, but only marginally above the official minimum.  The official minimum Geforce 6800 is just too old, really.  The 6800 GT is a great deal better than the 6800 GS and the 6800 Vanilla, and the 6800 XT is just garbage.  A desktop 8600 GT (same card as the 9500 GT, one on a thicker die wafer than the other) ought to be working fairly well, but an 8600M is another kettle of fish.  Some 8600Ms are so badly detuned by the laptop makers that they might as well have renamed them to "8400s". 

Games need to have Mainline (Medium) video cards, and that has meant the "n600" numbers were what counted, and "n400" is for business charts, graphs, presentations, spreadsheets, but not fpr games.  nVIDIA has upset that nomenclature with their 100s, 200s, 300s, and 400s.  The GT240 is the 200 generation's equivalent to the 9600 GT, the 220 is equivalent to the 8600/9500 GT, and the G.210 is the 200 version of the 8400 GS.

Anyone running any crippled business level card should bite the bullet and upgrade a desktop, or run a laptop at very low resolution settings, such as 800 by 600.

Gorath

Not sure what you are trying to say here, the best I can figure is that you don't believe any nvidia card is going to work?  I got thru the game with my 6800, but it is now starting to crash on me,  I am looking at a new computer now, I have reached the max I can upgrade my old one without changing everything in it.  The one I am looking at is an hp180t with 2.88g dual core, 6g ddr ram, nividia 210, win7.  So give me your opion and please make sense, you could just list the cards that you believe work.  thanks. 

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The OP started out believing that this particular abend was strictly Geforces, and the first several who responded were the 8400 GS people. 

The G.210 is the Geforce 200 equivalent of an 8400 GS, perhaps not quite as terrible, but quite poor, nevertheless. 

Refer to the video card ranking lits -- here's the one for ME2:

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/106/index/1713086

The two top Geforce 6800s weren't slouches when new (GT and Ultra), although the XT was garbage by comparison (probably worse than an 8400 GS desktop card).   The Vanilla 6800 was actually a "Medium" card in spite of the n800 numbering, because the majority only had 128 MBs of VRAM on them.  But those Geforce 6n00 cards are over five years old now, maybe six, and I wouldn't doubt that many of them have reached the end of their useful lives, and are developing assorted defects in their old age!

Any time a PC owner makes the choice to attempt to run a moderately demanding game such as this one, on very weak, or very old (or both), hardware, it isn't the developer's fault if the old hardware isn't up to the task.  That's the reason that the warning labels about requirements are on the game boxes.  

P. S.  I am using a different PC just now, and when FireFox loaded, it included the link below; the last time I was visiting GPU Review with this one, I obtained that comparison of the old 6800 GS, and the not quite so old 8400 GS:

www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php

Serendipity!

Gorath

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 16 avril 2010 - 07:22 .


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It seems that the easiest way to end the crashing marathon is to turn down the brightness in the game settings to -2. I played the game again, trying a new class and did not crash a single time. ;) I guess i discovered something good.



I suggest all you pals try that out if nothing else works ;P

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I put your suggestion in to the main post.