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[Sabresandiego]

In a normal Insanity playthrough you start at level 1. In New Game Plus Insanity playthrough you start at whatever level the character you are importing is, usually 30. Which do you prefer playing and why?

Insanity = Better balanced however the majority of the game is played without your favorite weapons and abilities.

Insanity+= All your abilities, weapons, and armor are available from the start but the game is not balanced and enemies take forever to kill until you have most upgrades (late game)

Modifié par Sabresandiego, 07 mars 2010 - 09:13 .

[Comrade Bork]

I prefer playing the NG+ way myself, but a new character works pretty well also.

[Sabresandiego]

Personally, I enjoy insanity+ because I like having all my abilities, weapons, and armor through the game.

[Arde5643]

I think NG+ might be more beneficial to power classes and the vanguard since they really only get better once they've have the necessary levels in their powers.

[Spyndel]

Sabresandiego wrote...



Insanity = Better balanced however the majority of the game is played without your favorite weapons and abilities.

Insanity+= All your abilities, weapons, and armor are available from the start but the game is not balanced and enemies take forever to kill until you have most upgrades (late game)

I don't feel you really do "start the game with your favorite weapons". They arent the same when you divorce them from the upgrades you would normally have at the point you pick them up in the game.

The Revenant you start the game with is *not* the same weapon you get when you pick it up on the collector ship when you have  a few +damages and the accuracy upgrade...you'd be far better off using one of the earlier game rifles until then.

Coupled with the fact that you miss out on most of the rewards system from leveling your character, NG+ feels kind of pointless to me just to be a bit more challenging for the first third of the game only.

Modifié par Spyndel, 07 mars 2010 - 09:27 .

[SmilingMirror]

I think people who like playing on insanity enjoy the challenge of NG+. I however have had my fill of NG+ as I like the extra money and resource bonus you can only get by importing an ME1 character. Plus I enjoy leveling up.

Modifié par SmilingMirror, 07 mars 2010 - 09:40 .

[Spyndel]

SmilingMirror wrote...

I think people who like playing on insanity enjoy the challenge of NG+. I however have had my fill of NG+ as I like the extra money and resource bonus you can only get by importing an ME1 character. Plus I enjoy leveling up.

I think if the level of challenge were deliberate and consistent throughout the entire game, that would be completely understandable.  But after Horizon, its pretty much the same as any other insanity game.  Easier in fact, because at that point you *do* have  maxed out powers, weapons with most of the meaningful upgrades, slightly earlier than you would otherwise.

The only thing really gained from from NG+, in my opinion, is the frustration of a poorly implemented "see-saw" effect to the game balance.

[Serillen]

NG+ can be brutal until after Horizon when you finally begin getting 3+ points in various weapons and in stuff like skin weave and damage protection. Prior to that I find myself dying often and usually in a frustrating manner. The game just seems sorta unbalanced (in a bad way) starting off with a lvl 30 char on insanity, its much more balanced to just start from scratch.

[Sabresandiego]

I do not like the game balance problem in early game NG+ at all. Its not that its hard, it is just annoying since things take forever to kill. The game is equivalent to regular insanity around the time you have max upgrades which is pretty late in the game. The only thing I like about insanity+ is having all my powers.

Modifié par Sabresandiego, 07 mars 2010 - 10:10 .

[cxensign]

NG+ feels like an afterthought in this game.  Unlike ME1 the game just isn't balanced for it.  Then there's the bit about how at the end of the game, a NG+ Shepard will be slightly behind an imported Shepard.  The challenge of the first few areas is interesting, but going backwards, progression-wise, when you import your Shepard takes away a huge amount of the appeal.

[Kronner]

Sabresandiego wrote...

I do not like the game balance problem in early game NG+ at all. Its not that its hard, it is just annoying since things take forever to kill. The game is equivalent to regular insanity around the time you have max upgrades which is pretty late in the game. The only thing I like about insanity+ is having all my powers.

I disagree about "it is just annoying since things take forever to kill", Claymore still one-shot killed any regular guy.
Other than that, the thing I hate about NG+ is that Paragon/Renegade points do not carry over.

[RighteousRage]

I also like NG+ insanity, although it is pain before Horizon



And yes, as Kronner said, the paragon/renegade point thing annoys me also. I'd prefer it just stayed at the same level it was at before I beat the game.

[Atmosfear3]

NG is easier, more gratifying with the leveling aspects.



NG+ is for those who seek a real challenge at the beginning of the game.

[Arde5643]

Less of real nail-biting challenge, more of boredom - enemies die so slowly in NG+.

I think I'm just gonna do it with NG instead of NG+, the boredom is too much for me - having to play even more conservatively than NG is just guh!!

[RighteousRage]

That's why you play a soldier or infiltrator



Assassin + assassin cloak + widow + warp or tungsten ammo + visor + default shoulders + stabilization gauntlets + headshots = boof teabagged

[WillieStyle]

The Widow is still the Widow even with just the 1 upgrade from Omega Mart. NG+ is the way to go.

[sinosleep]

Standard insanity for me. Look, I love ME 2, but I am NOT playing this game all the way through 12 times just to do it with all the classes. And being as I don't use either the widow or the claymore the effects of an NG + game ARE clearly felt early on. It's not ubre difficult or anything, but when the evi behaves exactly the same as the katana behaved on a standard insanity run on Mordin's mission, there's no way you're going to tell me the effects aren't noticeable.

p.s. Just or comparison's sake, with my preferred shotgun the scimi, guys that I two shot all day on my charge is fun videos I have to shoot, melee, shoot, melee to kill. Can I still do a run like the charge is fun vid? Yeah. Do is take longer and require more use of cover in between? ABSOLUTELY. Again, I don't find it particularly difficult, I just don't think it's a very good trade off. I LIKE leveling, and most classes in the game while not fully rounded, are perfectly useable by lvl 10. 

Modifié par sinosleep, 08 mars 2010 - 02:03 .

[Comrade Bork]

SmilingMirror wrote...

I think people who like playing on insanity enjoy the challenge of NG+. I however have had my fill of NG+ as I like the extra money and resource bonus you can only get by importing an ME1 character. Plus I enjoy leveling up.

I get 200 grand and 50k of each resource for any character I create. This includes new charcters (non-imports included), and NG+ characters.

[Senalda]

On somewhat related matter: I'm still confused by people saying that they start NG+ with the weapons from the previous playthrough. Since I've tried that few times now and all I get are the same starting weapons as I always do if I start a new game. Nothing else. Is there some trick in getting the old weapons? I play on Xbox.

[Sabresandiego]

Senalda wrote...

On somewhat related matter: I'm still confused by people saying that they start NG+ with the weapons from the previous playthrough. Since I've tried that few times now and all I get are the same starting weapons as I always do if I start a new game. Nothing else. Is there some trick in getting the old weapons? I play on Xbox.

Once you get in the Normandy you get all your old weapons back.

[sandman7431]

I hate everything about NG+.  I hate the fact that they don't balance it for weapon upgrades.  I hate the fact that it gets unbelievably easy right when you're getting to the best parts of the game.  I absolutely despise the fact that you cannot even switch weapons at the collector ship (who's idea was that?).  I would much rather play as an ME1 character import.  You still get a bunch of bonuses like more money and raw materials but the game is perfectly balanced and it gives you a chance to really use all of the weapons again instead of just the 2 or 3 weapons you normally use with a max arsenal.

[TheBellTolls4Me]

I'm not a big fan of the way NG+ is done. I love playing as a higher level with all my powers, but it's not really that fun. I'm seriously stalling on my NG+ infiltrator insanity run because of that stinking bridge in Thane's loyalty mission. It's just nothing but frustrating.

[Besetment]

I prefer NG+ although I'd be the first to admit that the balance is arseways. i.e. early game is harder than late game. I like the challenge.



The upgrades don't matter as much as some folks think. Armour choice definitely doesn't matter and even build isn't really that important in the scale of things as long as you roughly have the tools you need to deal with the right enemy (i.e. have some anti shield in your squad for synthetic heavy missions).



The stuff that does matter is finding out the safe squad waypoints and safe cover. Roughly tracking enemy movement so you know when they spawn and where they beeline to. For instance, I had to redo the Colossus fight on Haestrom many times because I wasn't tracking enemy movement properly. I'd get close to the sniper perch and get shot in the back because a Geth Destroyer mob spawns behind you and comes up the ramp. The trick is to not run to the perch until the Destroyer spawns and walks up the ramp. Shoot it down from cover on the other side of the map and then run to the perch.



Once you work out stuff like that then its not so difficult.

[siccore]

can u change your face again after importing a me2 savegame?