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#26
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Same as everyone here. I'll give him a chance, but if he pushes me [won't take much, the guy slaughtered my family] by spouting how great Rendon Howe was, then this punk will be dead.



Not to mention he apparently snuck into the castle to murder Grey Wardens.

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Just out of curiosity I'll recruit him to see how he behaves and what kind of person he is, and if he does not die from the joining I'll put my 2h sword into his face.
Simple as that, anybody who agrees with a person who killed my family will kiss my blade. 

Modifié par The Woldan , 08 mars 2010 - 08:42 .


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I really, really hope my human noble gets the chance to point out to him that Rendon Howe had everyone in the castle slaughtered. Not just every adult Cousland his men could find, but her sister-in-law and nephew, and the cook and the servants and some house guests unlucky enough to be staying there at the time. While it might be politically smart to try and keep word of what happened from getting out, from a moral perspective that's completely unjustifiable.

Modifié par Andrastee, 08 mars 2010 - 08:51 .


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Yeah sorry, I should have used the quotes better... I was tired.



I was referring to MORRIGAN not returning in Awakening. Utha I presume WILL be in it and have a major part to reveal the Wardens --> Ghoul transition. :)

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Who's Nathaniel to the Howes? Isn't Howe's son named Thomas?

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We don't know how Nathaniel is related to the Howe's. He hasn't been announced by Bioware yet. Technically, none of us are even supposed to know his name still. Primaguides leaked it on their website, and that's how this all started.



We won't actually know anything else about him until he is announced. Most likely sometime later this week.

#32
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silverholly83 wrote...

Who's Nathaniel to the Howes? Isn't Howe's son named Thomas?


His son that was interested in the female noble was Thomas, yes. 

Nathaniel could be another son, or a distant cousin.

#33
silverholly83

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@Nhadalie: Ah, thanks! I don't check here for a weekend and things have changed so much!



@Cuthlan: True and good point. I never considered extra sons. :)

#34
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Based on the way the guy in the Penny Arcade comic talks about Rendon Howe as a distant, glorified person I'm guessing it's not his son.

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Remember how Zevran tried to kill you and ended up being an interesting character if you got to know him? I would guess you would have to show the same kind of mercy/this guy can fight so let's have him kill darkspawn mentality as you did with Zevran to get to know the character.

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I never found Zevran interesting. His backstory wasn't bad, but I found his banters obnoxious.



I have high hopes that this guy will be everything Zevran should have been.

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bluebullets wrote...

I don't want a Howe in my party.. I'd rather slit his throat just like his father/uncle/whoever the arl was
Whayt do you think?


As a human Noble I am inclined to see your point of view - quite vividly.

Nathaniel isnt very likely to be one of Howe's kids - Thomas and Delilah are the only known ones, and they were likely kicked out of Amarenthine. I suspect that he is a nephew or something and (if he is the the guy in the comics) has been away for a while. I'm guessing Antiva from the way he's fighting.

... Despite my hatred for Arl Rendon Howe I guess I could find it in my Nobles heart to - - - forgive Nathaniel, at least for his ignorance. Guy comes homes and finds it overrun with Orlesians - whats he to think?

The Howe family has for generations fought for Fereldan against the Orlesians, and then some. Should we really let one bad apple ruin the family name forever? Are we humans like the dwarves with their castes that we cannot forgive the younger of the sins of the elder?

Give the guy a chance to fight by your side - if he turns on you then gut him. Thats my two cents.

Modifié par Venatio, 08 mars 2010 - 02:36 .


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In the Penny Arcade comic the guy doesn't refer to Howe as "father" or anything. This makes me doubt highly that he is Rendon Howe's son... biologically, anyhow. I think there's a good possibility that Nathaniel might then be an adopted son or a ward of sorts, given the Howe name by Rendon. Perhaps he was orphaned or had some such bad past/childhood and Howe saved him from whatever it was. That might explain his loyalty.

Just a thought, but no matter what I want this guy in my HNM's party, if only to see how their relationship may grow and what we may learn if this infiltrator's real character.

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Reyno411 wrote...

In the Penny Arcade comic the guy doesn't refer to Howe as "father" or anything. This makes me doubt highly that he is Rendon Howe's son... biologically, anyhow. I think there's a good possibility that Nathaniel might then be an adopted son or a ward of sorts, given the Howe name by Rendon. Perhaps he was orphaned or had some such bad past/childhood and Howe saved him from whatever it was. That might explain his loyalty.

Just a thought, but no matter what I want this guy in my HNM's party, if only to see how their relationship may grow and what we may learn if this infiltrator's real character.


He also mentions that his grandfather was a grey warden, might be on the mother's side that though.

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i bet he's a bastard like alistair, i mean who would really want rendon howe lol, some~ones been cheating~

#41
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I really can't wait to get my hands on this new Howe and make him taste my blade of truthiness like Rendon Howe did to my character's family

#42
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I'm going with the bastard theory as well.



As to having him in my party *rubs hands evilly* I truly cant wait!

Theres little I love more than compelling conflict, makes for a great story - so I really hope this guy has a complex and interesting background & personality - the only things that'll keep me from smashing his face in.

Either way, whether he manages to win my HN over or winds up losing a head - I'm gonna love the interaction.



THIS is the reason I've gotten excited about Awakening all over again :D

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wonder what ever happend to Morrigan.... :(

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First your all wrong Rendon isnt dead cos hes Duncan in disguise and duncans beard healing power ressurected him!



Second Howe doesnt have a wife and children. Nathaniel Howe is adopted an ran away from Howe cos hes such a boring loner.

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I'm going to give the poor sod a chance. I wanted to force him to become a Gray Warden but that might be a tad bit irrational for my characters.

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Oh interesting... so that doofus with the goatee in the PA comic is a Howe?

My human noble won't hold his ignorance against him. But he just might be the first eligible Companion that I'll put to the sword without feeling like I'm breaking the roleplay. Time to trim the fat off this party..!

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Mlai00 wrote...

Oh interesting... so that doofus with the goatee in the PA comic is a Howe?
My human noble won't hold his ignorance against him. But he just might be the first eligible Companion that I'll put to the sword without feeling like I'm breaking the roleplay. Time to trim the fat off this party..!

Do you have something against us goatee ninjas? We are more deadly than the Antivan crows i warn you.

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My actions will depend on what he says. If he says anything out of the way I will always be happy to kill another Howe.

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By Looking at what we've got so far which is very little. My opinon is that this Nathaniel isn't directly related to Rendon Howe judging on appearance. He seem's to has respect for the Wardens. Yes Respect the Wardens, his grandfarther was a warden yes? Does anyone recall Arl Howe mentioning that his farther was a Grey warden when Duncan showed up at the castle nor did Duncan start a conversation with the Arl about said Warden grandparent.

As I said before he holds respects for the wardens in general, but due to his hatred of the orlaisian empire and seeing as most wardens are infact Orlaisian, he sterotypes them and judges them as one.

We'll see what he has to say to a Fereldan born warden, most likely he'll be less "Hostile".

By the way he moves, he's obviously been trained in Antiva. Almost Crow like. A Master Crow? Seeing as Arl howe was the man who got ahold of zevran, he must have had some connection to the Crows.

;) hehe it's amazing what you can see between the lines.

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Howie: "You did WHAT to my father?!"
PC: "I killed him. Severed his head. Then gave it to my dog as a toy."

. . . . .

PC: "Still want to be friends?"

Modifié par thegreateski, 08 mars 2010 - 06:03 .