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[Group Theory]

So I decided to start another playthrough until FFXIII came out, so I decided to make a city Elf female rogue. After three or four levels I hadn't spent any talent points because I wasn't sure how I wanted to build my character. Once I got Allister in my party I equpied a cross bow on him just for some quick ranged dmage, and then I realized I've never had a warrior archer in my party. And then I thought of having a party based on four archers! Sounded pretty fun, so I went foward from there.
After I got to Lothering I realized four archers may not work so well, since I woul have such limited crowd control. So instead of speccing Sten for warrior archer, like I was planning, I just kept Morrigan in my party.
So now I've got PC (Rouge Archer), Leliana (Rouge Archer), Allister (Warrior Archer) and Morrigan (general mage stuff), and it's working pretty well. I'm about to get Arrow of Slaying with all my archers, so that should allow me to demolish lots of stuff.
Anyone else do a similar playthrough, or maybe a playthrough with only archers?

[Meliorist13]

Might want to try investing in Morrigan's shapeshifting line and use the Swarm Form. I would be interesting. The swarm would pull aggro and being that it is immune to physical damage, they'd swing/plink away at her while your archers turned them into pin cushions.  Just don't use Swarm when lots of fire is being thrown around.

Modifié par Meliorist13, 08 mars 2010 - 06:05 .

[Marso40]

The cardinal rule of medieval warfare after the invention of the longbow was that whoever had the most archers would win. In DA you have the longbow, with a vengeance.



I've never built an entire party as strictly archers, but I make sure every non-mage is equipped with as powerful a longbow as then can use, and sometimes I simply have them stand off and mass fire at a single enemy, with devastating results. I think you are going to find your party's damage-dealing ability to be pretty impressive on this playthrough.



Even without archer builds, I've had parties obliterate whole hordes of Darkspawn and other enemies (wolves, skeletons, spiders) without ever having to pull a melee weapon. Let the grey geese fly!!

[sajahVarel]

By the way if you have warrior archers, don't forget to pick the berserker spec, final blow doesn't work with a ranged weapon, but the berserk buff does and with a rapid fire longbow it's a killing machine.

[UberuceIAm]

There are two types of archers in Ferelden:

1) Those standing beside Shale in Rock Mastery mode
2) Bad ones.

Modifié par UberuceIAm, 08 mars 2010 - 08:30 .

[sajahVarel]

I must admit, the rock mastery aoes + buffs with 3 archers must be quite ground shaking... so to speak XD.

[rheed]

Limited crowd control with 4xscattershot? With 4 freaking bears/dogs? with bards singing and permastunning people? Is that a joke? XD

[droughs]

Can't u only have 1 pet out at a time?

[Nauthiz84]

droughs wrote...

Can't u only have 1 pet out at a time?

He's probably talking about a rogue group using ranger spec + bard, you'd only have 3 pets, but combining that with shale it might be rather intresting

[droughs]

Nauthiz84 wrote...

He's probably talking about a rogue group using ranger spec + bard, you'd only have 3 pets, but combining that with shale it might be rather intresting

When i tryed 2 Summon more then 1 Pet the other one would die. I think you can only have 1 summon Pet in the party pls tell me if im wrong

Modifié par droughs, 12 mars 2010 - 03:27 .

[JosieJ]

Each person with Ranger spec can have one pet active at a time. If you've got 3 rogue archers with Ranger spec, you can have 3 pets active.



Sounds like the TC's got 2 rogue archers and 1 warrior archer, though, so 2 pets (potentially).

[Loc'n'lol]

JosieJ wrote...

Each person with Ranger spec can have one pet active at a time. If you've got 3 rogue archers with Ranger spec, you can have 3 pets active.

Not on the console versions.

[100xp]

tbh, an all archer group seems rather squishy. For random encounters it works fine but when you're fighting elites and bosses they tend to resist most if not all the CC efffects that an archer spec dishes out. Archer by design is support, virtually all the good melee wpns have runestone slots making them far better implements of destruction...add to that cold, fire, and telekinetic wpn buffs + poison coatings and you got some serious swings. Is it possible? Sure, you might be spending a lot on arrows and bolts + a lot of trap settings but it would certainly be a different experience. How would the archers do against multiple elites and BBEG's? Probably reloading more often than you'd like to mention...there's always casual difficulty.

[Moogliepie]

_Loc_N_lol_ wrote...

JosieJ wrote...

Each person with Ranger spec can have one pet active at a time. If you've got 3 rogue archers with Ranger spec, you can have 3 pets active.

Not on the console versions.

<sigh> Had I known how gimped the console version was, I would have gone with the PC version. I know they made changes to fit the controller style of play, but the mechanics still require more tactical control. IMO, bad decisions. With the DLC for new copies, I can't even resell it for a decent price and go buy the PC version. ugh.

[Moogliepie]

Moogliepie wrote...

_Loc_N_lol_ wrote...

JosieJ wrote...

Each person with Ranger spec can have one pet active at a time. If you've got 3 rogue archers with Ranger spec, you can have 3 pets active.

Not on the console versions.

Had I known how gimped the console version was, I would have gone with the PC version. I know they made changes to fit the controller style of play, but the mechanics still require more tactical control. IMO, the result wasn't so great. With the DLC for new copies, I can't even resell it for a decent price and go buy the PC version. ugh.

[JosieJ]

_Loc_N_lol_ wrote...

JosieJ wrote...

Each person with Ranger spec can have one pet active at a time. If you've got 3 rogue archers with Ranger spec, you can have 3 pets active.

Not on the console versions.

Oops, sorry!   I always forget that there are numerous differences between the PC and console versions.

[Group Theory]

Thanks for all the tips! I was definitely going to make my PC a Bard for Song of Courage, but I haven't really set on a second specialization. Ranger seems like it may be a good idea, though. Me + Leliana summoning four animals while singing Songs of Courage sounds like a deadly combination
I also never knew that Stinging Swarm was resistant to physical attacks. I suppose it says it in the description, but I was too lazy to read it...
Also, Shale's Rock Mastery may be a good idea too. I could swap out Morrigan for Shale, and have Rock Mastery + 2x Songs of Courage buffing my archers. I bet that would give me some insane DPS!

Modifié par Group Theory, 13 mars 2010 - 02:18 .

[Vasiliii]

Do the songs stack? I was positive they didn't.... Awesome-o

[UberuceIAm]

I feel like a rank amateur now; I thought I had been doing well to get my PC archer to 65%, but as the article and video show, you can get to perma-crit.



http://dragonage.wik...icient_Approach

[Group Theory]

Vasiliii wrote...

Do the songs stack? I was positive they didn't.... Awesome-o

Now that you mention it, I don't know if they do or not. There seems to be a bug for Rally stacking, but I don't know about Song of Courage. I hope not... I kinda built this playthrough around two Courage Songs!

[mosspit]

Songs stack... In addition to many other buffs/debuffs. However, it is not an exploit like Rally. Rally is broken as BW forgot to reset rally upon zoning

[UberuceIAm]

Now that you mention it, I don't know if they do or not. There seems to be a bug for Rally stacking, but I don't know about Song of Courage. I hope not... I kinda built this playthrough around two Courage Songs!

According to Wikia, they do except for the Bard singing the second Song of Courage. That one only get his or her own song, but everyone else gets both.

I would predict that a third Bard would likewise scrub existing songs, so he or she would only get one while the first Bard gets three and the second Bard gets two. The fourth party member gets all three as well. I haven't tested any of this myself, mind.

Modifié par UberuceIAm, 16 mars 2010 - 08:30 .