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[Darth-Mandalore]

I know this is old news but I was just wondering what everyones thoughts are on Crysis 2 being released on all platforms and no longer being a PC exclusive. I was really looking forward to Crysis 2 until it was announced at E3 09 that it would no longer be a PC exclusive and instead it will be gimped by the limitations of the consoles.

Crysis was a brilliant game, one of the best FPS games released in years and this is because it wasnt hindered by the limitations of the consoles and was allowed to reach its potential, but now with Crysis 2 in development instead of taking a step forward and expanding on what was already a great game the game developers decided to take a few steps back and restrict their game to the limitations of the consoles (I suspect EA had a big part to play in this).

So what is your opinion on this, will Crysis 2 still manage to be a good game with all the restrictions in place? Will it even manage to be anywhere near as good as its predecessor? Or will it be a colossal flop and another nail in the PC gaming coffin?

[Endurium]

The control system sort of lends itself to a console controller so I don't see a problem there; if they replace save-anywhere with save points, that might be annoying.



Crysis is a good game until the latter half. Once I get to the Korean boss I like to start over. The Koreans are fun; the machines are not.

[Panderfringe]

Darth-Mandalore wrote...

I know this is old news but I was just wondering what everyones thoughts are on Crysis 2 being released on all platforms and no longer being a PC exclusive. I was really looking forward to Crysis 2 until it was announced at E3 09 that it would no longer be a PC exclusive and instead it will be gimped by the limitations of the consoles.

ALL GLORY TO THE PC MASTER RACE!!!

Christ, do you people read what you type?

[Chained_Creator]

I like the assumption that a game that started on the PC can only be good if it stays on the PC.

Must be nice to live in that dream world.

[Darth-Mandalore]

Endurium wrote...

The control system sort of lends itself to a console controller so I don't see a problem there; if they replace save-anywhere with save points, that might be annoying.

Crysis is a good game until the latter half. Once I get to the Korean boss I like to start over. The Koreans are fun; the machines are not.

The controls will have to be simplified a fair bit for the game to work on a console controller and some things may need to be left out all together.

While the aliens arent that bad to fight against I do agree with you that the Koreans are so much more fun to fight against. Considering it looks like at this point that our main enemy in Crysis 2 seems to be the aliens the development team will have to improve and add more variety to the aliens to make them more fun to fight against.

[Darth-Mandalore]

Chained_Creator wrote...

I like the assumption that a game that started on the PC can only be good if it stays on the PC.

Must be nice to live in that dream world.

Fact is that Crysis 2 will have to be simplified a lot from its predecessor to work on a console, I am not saying that a game cant be good if it is released on a console, what I am saying is that it is highly unlikely that Crysis 2 will be anywhere near as good as the first game due to the fact that for it to actually work on a console it will need to be simplified a lot.

It isnt just the graphics that will suffer but the gameplay too.

But hell your not convinced so lets have a look at the F.E.A.R series. The first game was great because it was originally developed and released for PC. After how well it did on PC the devs decided to port it to consoles and in the end the result was bad, because the game was developed for the PC the control scheme diddnt adapt well to the console controler and the end result was clunky simplified controls and due to the high hardware requirements the game diddnt run anywhere near as good as it did on PC.

Then the development team decided to release a sequel and decided to release it on the consoles from start so the whole game was designed to be simple and work well on consoles at the expense of the PC. In the end the game was nowhere near as good as the first and is now widely regarded as a dissapointment.

As you can see my fears are well founded. A game that is designed and released for PC only will almost always be better than a game that is nerfed by the restrictions of the consoles. You may be skeptical now but just wait until Crysis 2 is released and you will see I am right.

[Rubbish Hero]

Consoles will ruin it.

[Sloth Of Doom]

Shooters are absolute **** on consoles. When the game designers have to start gimping their ideas to FIT console limitations it is even worse.

[Panderfringe]

Darth-Mandalore wrote...


Fact is that Crysis 2 will have to be simplified a lot from its predecessor to work on a console, I am not saying that a game cant be good if it is released on a console, what I am saying is that it is highly unlikely that Crysis 2 will be anywhere near as good as the first game due to the fact that for it to actually work on a console it will need to be simplified a lot.

What do you mean "simplified?" It was literally point cursor at dude, push button. Also you tapped a few keys. THat is pretty much the literal definition of "simplified" as applied to video games. Crysis was simple already, it cannot be simpler.

Coincidentally, just like you.

[Big_Choppa]

PC's are superior to consoles. Consoles invite the Collector General to control them.



ASSUMING CONTROL OF THIS CONSOLE!!!

[amrose2]

Depends on how much effort they put into the PC version. It could turn out like ME2, which is the best multi-platform game I've played before.



We'll see - Crysis had alot of innovations for FPS games, I hope they keep up the trend.

[Big_Choppa]

For some reason I didn't get much into the first Crysis, so I'm not really looking forward to the 2nd.

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

Panderfringe wrote...

Darth-Mandalore wrote...


Fact is that Crysis 2 will have to be simplified a lot from its predecessor to work on a console, I am not saying that a game cant be good if it is released on a console, what I am saying is that it is highly unlikely that Crysis 2 will be anywhere near as good as the first game due to the fact that for it to actually work on a console it will need to be simplified a lot.

What do you mean "simplified?" It was literally point cursor at dude, push button. Also you tapped a few keys. THat is pretty much the literal definition of "simplified" as applied to video games. Crysis was simple already, it cannot be simpler.

Coincidentally, just like you.

Please that has to be the stupidest thing I have ever heard, let me guess Dragon Age was just select dude then select dude for him to attack then sit back and watch the show?

I think the point OP is trying to make is there are too many functions to control in crysis to be successfully able to map all of the functions to a controller and thus the controls will have to be simplified and even have some functions removed for the game to be able to work on a console.

Anyway why the hell are you arguing? Are you a troll or are you just an idiot? It is obvious that you have never actually played the original Crysis and know nothing about the FPS genre so whether or not Crysis 2 is released on consoles should not concern you.

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

jynthor wrote...

Sloth Of Doom wrote...

Shooters are absolute **** on consoles. When the game designers have to start gimping their ideas to FIT console limitations it is even worse.

I don't even know where to begin saying that isn't true...

That is because there are no arguments to say that it isnt true, Crysis 2 will be nowhere near as good as it could have been if it had been release for PC only, hell I would be surprised if it even manages to be anywhere near as good as the first game.

[Chained_Creator]

Darth-Mandalore wrote...
You may be skeptical now but just wait until Crysis 2 is released and you will see I am right.

I'll take your word on it, seeing as I'm not buying it and didn't buy the first one.

[Dr Metzger]

Well with the first game they didn't want to port to consoles because they said they would have to essentially make the port into a corridor shooter due to hardware restrictions, I just hope they figured out a way around that with the new engine.

[FlameChucks]

I can agree to what this guy is saying to some degree. I mean, let's face it. The one thing that Crysis really had going for it in terms of a revolution was the graphics engine.



From the trees to terrain to the water and islands, all of it had a majestic feel to it. And let's face it, the engine was just not optimized to truly support the hardware that it required, or in that fact still requires.



Either way, i do agree to some degree on the simplicity on the way the game will feel now. I mean let's face it, any game ported from PC to console is always going to feel inferior to it's previous self. Even now, when games are made for consoles and the ported over, and this is for anyone who game's on PC's will tell you.........that yes, there is something missing.



Personally, i loved the first crysis, however it did kill my graphics to the max but dammit it still looked great



Crysis 2 has some high expectations in terms of what they can output towards consoles and that's pretty much how far that goes.



Either way, i'm gonna call it a fail now. That way when it comes out and is somewhat decent i won't be too disappointed

[boomgosthedino]

It will suck.. It's been dumb down cause its going to consoles.

[Karlojey]

I played the first installment and the second (expansion?) one. I just hope they make it longer. The graphics and story was great but damn were they short

[Panderfringe]

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

Please that has to be the stupidest thing I have ever heard, let me guess Dragon Age was just select dude then select dude for him to attack then sit back and watch the show?

I dunno, but I hear it has a more than adequate console version.

I think the point OP is trying to make is there are too many functions to control in crysis to be successfully able to map all of the functions to a controller and thus the controls will have to be simplified and even have some functions removed for the game to be able to work on a console.

Well, for one, that's not at all the point he's making. Even if it were, it would be wrong. Because it is stupid.

Anyway why the hell are you arguing? Are you a troll or are you just an idiot? It is obvious that you have never actually played the original Crysis and know nothing about the FPS genre so whether or not Crysis 2 is released on consoles should not concern you.

HA HA HA HA.

Oh, wow.

[Darth-Mandalore]

Panderfringe wrote...

I think the point OP is trying to make is there are too many functions to control in crysis to be successfully able to map all of the functions to a controller and thus the controls will have to be simplified and even have some functions removed for the game to be able to work on a console.

Well, for one, that's not at all the point he's making. Even if it were, it would be wrong. Because it is stupid.

Actually that is part of why Crysis 2 will not be as good as the first and was part of the point I was trying to make, but anyway you say that this is wrong and "stupid", care to elaborate?

Panderfringe wrote...

Anyway why the hell are you arguing? Are you a troll or are you just an idiot? It is obvious that you have never actually played the original Crysis and know nothing about the FPS genre so whether or not Crysis 2 is released on consoles should not concern you.

HA HA HA HA.

Oh, wow.

He is right though isnt he? Judging by your posts you dont seem to know much about Crysis, the FPS genre or anything really for that matter, none of your posts show any sign of intelligence and you have nothing of value to say in this conversation or any other.

[Ragnadaam]

Just for you op some brand new crysis 2 on consoles gameplay,from GDC.
http://gamevideos.1u.../video/id/28333
I admit I don't know much about Crysis(don't really pc game outside of mmos and rts's)but it's looking good graphic wise,also has the sandbox editor thingy.l also remember reading an article(that was quoting the official playstation magazine) that the developers stated they didn't "comprise anything" to bring the game to consoles.So if ya could help me out what exactly is the fear among pc gamers?
Dumbing down isn't all that telling .

Modifié par Ragnadaam, 12 mars 2010 - 12:56 .