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[Reptilian Rob]

I've got it all under control guys, I have beer.

[Darth_Griffin]

Jagri wrote...

Again have to stress the Thanix cannon. It allowed a damaged and worn frigate class vessel to destroy a Collecters vessel the size of a cruiser. The Thanix cannnon when mounted to a fighter or frigate gives it fire power surpassing a cruiser.

Now mounted to a fleet of inexpensive fighters and you got quite a surprise brewing and its the thinking outside of the box needed to defeat the Reapers. Remember humans introduce the idea and concept of fighters to the rest of the galaxy so appearently the Reapers would have no influence in there evolution. How would they know a single fighter is capable of hitting them with a beam of near equal destructive power as there own main cannons?

actually, we introduced the concept of fighter carriers. Single purpose fighter craft were already in use.

But I agree. if there were some way to mount a Thanix Cannon or something of similar power on fighter craft then we would have decisive advantage. even if the mounts were only temporary. I'm just not sure if the engineering would work, seeing how fighters are so small. it might be possible to mount the cannons on frigates. The Wolf packs would become much more deadly.

Then again, we know that the Collector ship took only a few shots to take out, but we don't know what it would do to a Reaper. Remember the Collector ships were partially organic and organic material is much more fragile than synthetic material so a Reaper hull would be able to take a lot more punishment.

what the council needs to do is to repeal the treaty that limits dreadnought construction so we then build as many as we can, because I can see that it is gonna come down to a slugging match. and in a slugging match, size and firepower is everything.

[screwoffreg]

Yeah, even if they started building Dreadnaughts, it would take years to have them online. To mobilize for full scale Galactic war would be a HUGE undertaking and considering the game seems to be moving fairly quickly, I imagine the Reapers would be in the galaxy within a year or two, somehow. Barely enough time to get started!

[Jaina Twoseas]

EDI programms a Virus which installs Windows on the Reapers... that should have devastating consequences.

[kmcd5722]

Reform the line. Meet them head-on. Spears, horses, and all.

[screwoffreg]

kmcd5722 wrote...

Reform the line. Meet them head-on. Spears, horses, and all.

I actually imagine a Lord of the Rings type ending.  There will probably be a large infantry battle as Shepard does not fly spaceships into combat.  With that said, maybe the Allied Fleets will provide cover for Shepard and his forces? A Battle of the Black Gate type of diversion?

[etonesmith1]

I was thinking more along the lines of "the battle of five armies" from the hobbit. council/cerberus fleet meets them head on with krogan and quarian assistance, when all seems lost, in ride the geth/rachni fleets to save the day.

[Canned Bullets]

Don't worry, the Council has the Floatilla to use as cannon fodder.

[carilynn46]

oh that's nothing... its just raining.... a little... you know a sprinkle....

[bdawg3103]

Darth_Griffin wrote...

lol

[kmcd5722]

Canned Bullets wrote...

Don't worry, the Council has the Floatilla to use as cannon fodder.

And with the combined forces of the geth re-united behind the quarians, "suicide mission" has a whole new meaning.

[Canned Bullets]

kmcd5722 wrote...

Canned Bullets wrote...

Don't worry, the Council has the Floatilla to use as cannon fodder.

And with the combined forces of the geth re-united behind the quarians, "suicide mission" has a whole new meaning.

So sending the Quarians and Geth to their deaths and having Shepard sneak through sounds like a plan, also, having EDI install Windows Vista into the Reapers sounds like a good way to confuse them.

Modifié par Canned Bullets, 09 mars 2010 - 12:58 .

[carilynn46]

don't forget about the krogan and rachni

[sinisternym]

The problem I forsee is that if the Reapers finally make contact with any mass relay I predict they will unleash the protocol that shuts off all the relays from everyone but them. They also shut down communications so you would probably need to rely on the geth to transmit data.



If the fleets (human, asari, turian, geth or rachni) are not at least 80% (fighters all) upgraded to thanix cannons I predict bad things. Keep in mind that the Thanix Cannon is only a first generation remake of Azara's main weapon. Perhaps the salvaging of the Collector ship or what you find on the collector station could lead to a Mod 2 or Mod 3. Fighters with thanix cannons may just be what creates the new form of Torpedo boat.





Also with that defensive strategy I posted earlier worked well when the British with only a fleet managed to take down the Spanish armada. Nor do I think that the Reapers will employ tactics that are superior to the spanish that day since their only strategy is the concept of cut off (comms and trans) then cleanse.

[screwoffreg]

Space combat doesn't work live ocean naval combat. Every impact is a killing shot, more than that fighters are probably useless as I can just imagine the Reapers have impressive anti fighter weapons.

[kraidy1117]

Harbinger is so sexy, I want to romance it.

[GuardianAngel470]

sinisternym wrote...

The problem I forsee is that if the Reapers finally make contact with any mass relay I predict they will unleash the protocol that shuts off all the relays from everyone but them. They also shut down communications so you would probably need to rely on the geth to transmit data.

If the fleets (human, asari, turian, geth or rachni) are not at least 80% (fighters all) upgraded to thanix cannons I predict bad things. Keep in mind that the Thanix Cannon is only a first generation remake of Azara's main weapon. Perhaps the salvaging of the Collector ship or what you find on the collector station could lead to a Mod 2 or Mod 3. Fighters with thanix cannons may just be what creates the new form of Torpedo boat.


Also with that defensive strategy I posted earlier worked well when the British with only a fleet managed to take down the Spanish armada. Nor do I think that the Reapers will employ tactics that are superior to the spanish that day since their only strategy is the concept of cut off (comms and trans) then cleanse.

Didn't that fleet have pirate support?  I thought I remember pirates.

[tdb023]

I don't think that Thanix Canons will be enough to take the Reapers down. One thing you may have forgotten is that EDI may have scans of the Reaper technology from the Reaper Base. She brought up a scan of the whole ship before Sheppard and crew enter the base, so it kind of makes since that she may have some aspect of their technology in her memory banks, if you chose to blow up the Station.

[sinisternym]

A reaper dreadnought would have definitely used point defense weapons on those "lesser" alliance cruisers. From what I saw, it either rams or killed ships one by one with it's quite frankly awesome magnetic gun.



Back in the early 20th century, before they started making torpedoes it would be a battle of attrition, whittling down other ships armor until one sank. This is pretty much almost all european style fighting.



Fast forward to the battle of the citadel this was what the 5th fleet and turian/asari fleets were doing with Azara before it's shields were brought down by our respective shepards.



I honestly think the reapers never had to deal with any race capable of removing their uber shield advantage that they enjoy. Fighters that have that weapon equiped have the capablity of overwhelming those things especially if you are dealing with fighters by the dozen. Even in WW2 many torpedoes were needed to take down the super battleships that the axis powers built.



The main premise of the battle between the Spanish Armada and the Brit fleet is that the Brit fleet were in a formation where they were able to target the Spanish Ships as they came into range (picking them off 3 or 4 at a time this was aided because the location of the battle was where the spanish had to come through, this denied a numerical advantage.



These questions remains though.



What is the difference in strength between Azara's Magnetic Gun and the 1st Generation of the Thanix cannon?



What is the difference between the collector ships shield and the Reaper "Ship of the line"?



Where do you want the battle to take place? Where will it happen otherwise?

[notphrog]

Don't worry. We'll use an emp.

[notphrog]

Darth_Griffin wrote...

Jagri wrote...

Again have to stress the Thanix cannon. It allowed a damaged and worn frigate class vessel to destroy a Collecters vessel the size of a cruiser. The Thanix cannnon when mounted to a fighter or frigate gives it fire power surpassing a cruiser.

Now mounted to a fleet of inexpensive fighters and you got quite a surprise brewing and its the thinking outside of the box needed to defeat the Reapers. Remember humans introduce the idea and concept of fighters to the rest of the galaxy so appearently the Reapers would have no influence in there evolution. How would they know a single fighter is capable of hitting them with a beam of near equal destructive power as there own main cannons?

actually, we introduced the concept of fighter carriers. Single purpose fighter craft were already in use.

But I agree. if there were some way to mount a Thanix Cannon or something of similar power on fighter craft then we would have decisive advantage. even if the mounts were only temporary. I'm just not sure if the engineering would work, seeing how fighters are so small. it might be possible to mount the cannons on frigates. The Wolf packs would become much more deadly.

Then again, we know that the Collector ship took only a few shots to take out, but we don't know what it would do to a Reaper. Remember the Collector ships were partially organic and organic material is much more fragile than synthetic material so a Reaper hull would be able to take a lot more punishment.

what the council needs to do is to repeal the treaty that limits dreadnought construction so we then build as many as we can, because I can see that it is gonna come down to a slugging match. and in a slugging match, size and firepower is everything.

Repealing the treaty is meaningless. The Turian Hierarchy is already ignoring the treaty and building all the dreadnoughts they wants. And how many dreadnoughts can we build in two years? Especially considering how everyone still thinks we're crazy and ignores our warnings.

[trigger2kill1]

sinisternym wrote...


Fast forward to the battle of the citadel this was what the 5th fleet and turian/asari fleets were doing with Azara before it's shields were brought down by our respective shepards.



These questions remains though.

What is the difference in strength between Azara's Magnetic Gun and the 1st Generation of the Thanix cannon

Dude its Nazara

Sovereign[/b], also known as Nazara, is the flagship of the rogue Spectre Saren Arterius. An enormous dreadnought larger than any other ship in any known fleet, Sovereign is crewed with both geth and krogan. At two kilometers long, its spinal-mounted main gun is likely capable of penetrating another dreadnought's kinetic barriers with a single shot.
The prevailing opinion is that Sovereign is a geth construct, while others believe it is a Prothean relic. Its design, however, hints at a more alien and mysterious origin. The attack on Eden Prime demonstrated Sovereign's ability to generate mass effect fields powerful enough to land on a planetary surface. This implies it has a massive element zero core, and the ability to generate staggering amounts of power

[sinisternym]

It's Nazara

I stand corrected.

Modifié par sinisternym, 09 mars 2010 - 04:16 .

[Highdragonslayer]

Heres how it will go down Shepard will wear a trench coat all bad ass like and slow mo walk to the reapers, then he will open his trench coat and he has a bunch of guns and he shoots them at the reapers, the reapers try to shoot back but Shepard is dodging them all because he knows it's all fake.

[xGimpyx]

There's nothing that says we can't pull an Independence Day and upload a virus to each Reaper to disable their shields.  Granted, it would be stupid as hell, but it would still get the job done.