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[wowpwnslol]

Please make dragon fights in Awakenings (if any) a lot harder than we had in Origins. Dragons are supposed to be powerful and hard to kill, especially in a game called "Dragon Age" and yet they are all easily soloable. Dragons should get cool abilities instead of basic grab/tail swipe and fire breath shouldn't be trivialized by fire potions. Dragon battles looked so promising in DA, but ended in a sad whimper as any decent character can own them.

[LoneFullmetal]

What is this, I don't.



I'm having trouble beating the high dragon, I can get her down to 1/4 her health but then usually either my tank or healer dies and it's game over...

[wowpwnslol]

LoneFullmetal wrote...

What is this, I don't.

I'm having trouble beating the high dragon, I can get her down to 1/4 her health but then usually either my tank or healer dies and it's game over...

That's because you're bad.

Nightmare Mode:

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Modifié par wowpwnslol, 08 mars 2010 - 01:14 .

[Nhadalie]

Not everyone is a hardcore gamer. Besides. That's what the difficulty settings are for. The game is already completely made. So I don't see why you're asking for this other than to put people down who don't work as hard at building extreme characters, and using different fighting tactics.



There is only one dragon in Awakening from what we have seen so far. The Spectral dragon/Queen of the black marshes. And in all the demos, it kicks their asses. So either the people playing the demos don't know how to play fight scenes, or the fight is really difficult.

[Cuthlan]

I found them to be pretty well balanced. If you aren't prepared and/or take them on too early, you'll lose. If not, they're beatable.



And it's not "Dragon Age" because we're supposed to fight a bunch of dragons. It is the name of the time period.

[wowpwnslol]

Nhadalie wrote...

Not everyone is a hardcore gamer. Besides. That's what the difficulty settings are for. The game is already completely made. So I don't see why you're asking for this other than to put people down who don't work as hard at building extreme characters, and using different fighting tactics.

It's called optional fights. That way a decent player can enjoy a challenge a bad role player can have his easy mode. By the way High Dragon fight was 100% optional and yet Bioware managed to make it pathetic when it could have been actually challenging. I blame self-entitled console crowd who think they should breeze through every encounter by facerolling on their keyboard.

There is only one dragon in Awakening from what we have seen so far. The Spectral dragon/Queen of the black marshes. And in all the demos, it kicks their asses. So either the people playing the demos don't know how to play fight scenes, or the fight is really difficult.

I hope it's the latter.

[wowpwnslol]

Cuthlan wrote...

I found them to be pretty well balanced. If you aren't prepared and/or take them on too early, you'll lose. If not, they're beatable.

1) Why would you go against a dragon without preparation

2) Why would you fight against a dragon at low level


Honestly, such things shouldn't even be mentioned because they're obvious. The point I am trying to make is that Dragons should actually be challenging for well prepared and well geared parties. And they certainly shouldn't be soloable.

[Ken555]

Well Nighmare mode is fun but I wish all the Dragons were harder because with a mage its just cold spells, cold spells and dragons dead. the only dragons that were actually a little bit challenging was Flemeth and the High dragon, compared to the normal dragons (Elven ruins, Orzammar)

[Ken555]

And the dragons die when you use Yusaris.

[Ken555]

wowpwnslol wrote...

LoneFullmetal wrote...

What is this, I don't.

I'm having trouble beating the high dragon, I can get her down to 1/4 her health but then usually either my tank or healer dies and it's game over...

That's because you're bad.

Nightmare Mode:

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Nice! that looks as though you killed it pretty quick.

[ExistsAlready]

Someone else wanting a harder game...



If it means that much to you, don't play Awakening until the first Nightmare Plus mod is out.

[wowpwnslol]

Ken555 wrote...

Well Nighmare mode is fun but I wish all the Dragons were harder because with a mage its just cold spells, cold spells and dragons dead. the only dragons that were actually a little bit challenging was Flemeth and the High dragon, compared to the normal dragons (Elven ruins, Orzammar)

Flemeth is actually really easy because she can't move. High Dragon... well you actually have to move a little. Personally I found their hitpoints a bit lacking also. It's frightening how fast a mage with 100++ spellpower can kill one - especially with vulnerabilities up.

[Ken555]

LoneFullmetal wrote...

What is this, I don't.

I'm having trouble beating the high dragon, I can get her down to 1/4 her health but then usually either my tank or healer dies and it's game over...

If you really can't then just use Health poultices and set your tank to heal in tactics when his health is below a certain amount.

[Ken555]

And Yusaris and Cold Spells pack a powerful punch.

[Ken555]

wowpwnslol wrote...

Ken555 wrote...

Well Nighmare mode is fun but I wish all the Dragons were harder because with a mage its just cold spells, cold spells and dragons dead. the only dragons that were actually a little bit challenging was Flemeth and the High dragon, compared to the normal dragons (Elven ruins, Orzammar)

Flemeth is actually really easy because she can't move. High Dragon... well you actually have to move a little. Personally I found their hitpoints a bit lacking also. It's frightening how fast a mage with 100++ spellpower can kill one - especially with vulnerabilities up.

Yes but compared to the other tiny dragons flemeth is a teeny bit better.

[wowpwnslol]

Ken555 wrote...


Nice! that looks as though you killed it pretty quick.

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Spell power stacking, probably killed him in less than a minute.  Of course, that's what I had at the end of game... when I fought the High Dragon, I *only* had around 90-95 spell power....

[Axekix]

The AI needs improvements, yes. People shouldn't be able to dex stack to the point that they become unhittable by mobs... templars shouldn't be able to have 100% spell immunity via gear... Dragons shouldn't just stay in 1 spot while you pelt at them.



But it's too late to ask for changes now, the game's gone gold!

[Ken555]

Cuthlan wrote...

I found them to be pretty well balanced. If you aren't prepared and/or take them on too early, you'll lose. If not, they're beatable.

And it's not "Dragon Age" because we're supposed to fight a bunch of dragons. It is the name of the time period.

Yes but what is the point of having a time period called "Dragon Age" if there are hardly any dragons.

[Nhadalie]

wowpwnslol wrote...

Nhadalie wrote...

Not everyone is a hardcore gamer. Besides. That's what the difficulty settings are for. The game is already completely made. So I don't see why you're asking for this other than to put people down who don't work as hard at building extreme characters, and using different fighting tactics.

It's called optional fights. That way a decent player can enjoy a challenge a bad role player can have his easy mode. By the way High Dragon fight was 100% optional and yet Bioware managed to make it pathetic when it could have been actually challenging. I blame self-entitled console crowd who think they should breeze through every encounter by facerolling on their keyboard.

There is only one dragon in Awakening from what we have seen so far. The Spectral dragon/Queen of the black marshes. And in all the demos, it kicks their asses. So either the people playing the demos don't know how to play fight scenes, or the fight is really difficult.

I hope it's the latter.

Then do it on a character it would be more difficult on. Honestly, you're in control of the situation. If you want it to be more challenging, go back and fight them earlier than usual.

If you want to rant about people sucking at combat in video games being the cause of it, take it somewhere else. That rant has almost nothing to do with Awakening.


I found the fights with the dragons to both be very challenging. But then I probably went to them too early on.

[Nhadalie]

Ken555 wrote...

Cuthlan wrote...

I found them to be pretty well balanced. If you aren't prepared and/or take them on too early, you'll lose. If not, they're beatable.

And it's not "Dragon Age" because we're supposed to fight a bunch of dragons. It is the name of the time period.

Yes but what is the point of having a time period called "Dragon Age" if there are hardly any dragons.

It's called the "Dragon age" because dragons, which were previously thought to have died off reappeared. Not because there is a ****load of them everywhere you turn.

[Cuthlan]

wowpwnslol wrote...

Cuthlan wrote...

I found them to be pretty well balanced. If you aren't prepared and/or take them on too early, you'll lose. If not, they're beatable.

1) Why would you go against a dragon without preparation

2) Why would you fight against a dragon at low level


Honestly, such things shouldn't even be mentioned because they're obvious. The point I am trying to make is that Dragons should actually be challenging for well prepared and well geared parties. And they certainly shouldn't be soloable.

I get the point you're trying to make. And who are you to dictate what should or shouldn't be mentioned? I gave my opinion. Don't wanna hear opinions? Don't make posts.

Some people do the Ashes questline early. And take the dragon on when they find it. It makes it a challenge, in some cases unbeatable. And it is a lot more fun than coming back later just because you know you've reached the power level to roll the dragon.

Modifié par Cuthlan, 08 mars 2010 - 01:40 .

[mosspit]

Hmmm kinda feels like a bragging thread...

[Cuthlan]

Ken555 wrote...

Cuthlan wrote...

I found them to be pretty well balanced. If you aren't prepared and/or take them on too early, you'll lose. If not, they're beatable.

And it's not "Dragon Age" because we're supposed to fight a bunch of dragons. It is the name of the time period.

Yes but what is the point of having a time period called "Dragon Age" if there are hardly any dragons.

The point is that the time periods are named by the Chantry just before the century starts, and just 30 years before Origins took place, they discovered that dragons weren't actually extinct, which was the sign which they named the age for. That and they predicted it to be a century of war and change, which dragon's symbolized.

If Dragons were thought to be extinct as recently as 30some years ago, it stands to reason that they'd still be fairly uncommon.

[wowpwnslol]

Cuthlan wrote...

Some people do the Ashes questline early. And take the dragon on when they find it. It makes it a challenge, in some cases unbeatable. And it is a lot more fun than coming back later just because you know you've reached the power level to roll the dragon.

Fair enough. I can see it being hard if you're low level. However, it also begs a question of why isn't there a fight where it's challenging at HIGH levels?

[Cuthlan]

I imagine the Archdemon was intended to be just that, but it turned out to be pretty easy in the end. I've never tried it without killing the generals in the market and alienage first, maybe that makes it harder.