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[ZMJ10]

Okay anyone elese get this feeling with in the first mission of ME2 i mean my Engineer in ME1 kicked some serious ass and in ME2 he has a drone.......And overload no longer is explosion damage and i dont have sabatoge...... 

What class did you play in ME1 and tell me if bioware raped it for you too!

[GM23]

I think all classes are powerful, once you get used to them. I have an engineer and I played through the game on insanity with it. It can kick some serious ass. Drones are perfect for diversions, Incinerate and Overload give you nice weapons against armor and shield. You can AI hack any syntethic enemy, making those fights a cakewalk. You can also take reave if you want, so you could take down barriers too, or simply take dominate and control organic enemies too. Engineer is one of the most powerful classes in this game IMO... It just take some time to learn to play with them effectively, as it is with almost all the classes.

[Rodriguer2000]

i played soldier me 1 they changed it for the better in mass effect 2 the vanguard and adept are much funner too infiltrator idk cause i just started playing that one engineer is always last for me

[Grand_Commander13]

You thought Engineer was powerful in ME1? Let me guess, thought Adept stunk back then too, eh? ;-)

I played every class but Sentinel back in ME1, but I like the class balance a lot better in ME2.

[ZMJ10]

Grand_Commander13 wrote...

You thought Engineer was powerful in ME1? Let me guess, thought Adept stunk back then too, eh? ;-)
I played every class but Sentinel back in ME1, but I like the class balance a lot better in ME2.

Actually i enjoyed the adept alot in ME1 he is one of my 3 imports. And may i add my second fav class. Soo u guessed wrong but i played most classes in ME1 as well but some didnt appeal to me to get them past lvl 20 ( i mean past the moon mission). And yes engineer is prob the strongest class in ME1 u have overload sabotoge marksman for the pistol hacking extra sheilds via electronics neurol shock and a few other talents i cant remeber cuz its been awhile but yea, if i had liara and ashley as squad memebrs we pwn through insanity. i only died once on matrich benezia, when i died alot more on my other 2 imports.

[SpockLives]

Sorry, but Engineer is the only class in ME1 that doesn't have either Barrier or Immunity. It just doesn't have the same survivability that the other classes did. With my Infiltrator I can spam Immunity and Marksman and cakewalk through Insanity. Engineer requires that you actually take cover. I feel like Engineer got a huge boost in ME2, while Soldier took a huge hit (no more Immunity).

[Grand_Commander13]

It wasn't so much a "guess" as a jab at you for considering what was widely considered the weakest class in the original to be strong (and unlike ME2, back in ME1 there were clearly strong and weak classes).

[Captain Crash]

I had a lvl60 Engineer which I imported for my second ME2 playthrough.



After already using the novelty of combat drone with Tali i knew I was going to get bored very quickly. So I restarted and changed my character to an Infiltrator.



I will give Engineer a go at some point but not for a while.

[ZMJ10]

Grand_Commander13 wrote...

It wasn't so much a "guess" as a jab at you for considering what was widely considered the weakest class in the original to be strong (and unlike ME2, back in ME1 there were clearly strong and weak classes).

mind you its only your opinion  against mine so we cold go back and forth about this. This thread was ment for me to see if bioware changed "your" class a bit to make it a lil less enjoyable.

[Grand_Commander13]

No it is not my opinion, it is the consensus that was established before ME2 news was even coming out. SpockLives got the most basic part, but missed the fact that biotics can disable large groups and works against nearly everything, while tech can only ho-hum disable enemies and there are large swathes of multiple levels which are immune to it.

[Tlazolteotl]

In ME1 my infiltrator could keep immunity on perpetually ... and could just walk up to just about anything and bop it upside the head.

Yes, ME2 infiltrators are a lot weaker, but it's also a lot more fun than having a near god mode.

[ZMJ10]

Grand_Commander13 wrote...

No it is not my opinion, it is the consensus that was established before ME2 news was even coming out. SpockLives got the most basic part, but missed the fact that biotics can disable large groups and works against nearly everything, while tech can only ho-hum disable enemies and there are large swathes of multiple levels which are immune to it.

i guess SpockLives is your god on which you have no true opinion on games you ask your SpockLives and they will tell you what they think.

What i was trying to tell you soo you wouldnt waste another post is no matter what you write Engineer will always be the best class in ME1, Period. Good day Sir

[GM23]

yeah, immunity was basically a god mode... I really didn't like that I could just breeze through insanity, constantly keeping immunity up and just run into the biggest crowd of enemies.... They couldn't even touch me... Was kind of pathetic. I really like all the changes they made to all the classes...

[Grand_Commander13]

SpockLives wrote...

Sorry, but Engineer is the only class in ME1 that doesn't have either Barrier or Immunity. It just doesn't have the same survivability that the other classes did. With my Infiltrator I can spam Immunity and Marksman and cakewalk through Insanity. Engineer requires that you actually take cover. I feel like Engineer got a huge boost in ME2, while Soldier took a huge hit (no more Immunity).

Grand_Commander13 wrote...

SpockLives got the most basic part, but missed the fact that biotics can disable large groups and works against nearly everything, while tech can only ho-hum disable enemies and there are large swathes of multiple levels which are immune to it.

ZMJ10 wrote...

od on which you have no true opinion on games you ask your SpockLives and they will tell you what they think.

You really need to pay attention before you fly off the handle Dr. Ball.  I mean ZMJ. 

[Cross1280]

Some classes, like the Engi, and the sentinal I think are way better now than they were in ME1, yes they lost a few of there gimmick abilities, but on a whole they are alot stronger class now than they were then.

[Tlazolteotl]

But but but ... in ME1 anyone can use a spectre X sniper rifle, + scram rail X, + scram rail X, + high explosive rounds, and use it for the silliest CC ever.

Now that's a gimmick.

[tonnactus]

SpockLives wrote...

Sorry, but Engineer is the only class in ME1 that doesn't have either Barrier or Immunity

It doesnt need it when enemy weapons were permanently overloaded.Only problems were charging enemies like krogans or rachni.Neural shock works on them,but the duration wasnt great.But liara and/or kaidan solves such problems.

[RighteousRage]

What the fudge? Engineer sucked ass in ME 1, haha. How dare you sir, how dare you?

[Grand_Commander13]

tonnactus wrote...

It doesnt need it when enemy weapons were permanently overloaded.Only problems were charging enemies like krogans or rachni.Neural shock works on them,but the duration wasnt great.But liara and/or kaidan solves such problems.

It's true that Engineer's weakness was highly overrated but which do you think would have an easier time: Engineer/Tali/Garrus or Adept/Liara/Wrex?  Or better yet instead of Garrus/Wrex put in Kaidan but he only spends points in either biotics or tech.  Ignore the dang crates, they're Conrad's jurisdiction. 

[tonnactus]

Grand_Commander13 wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

It doesnt need it when enemy weapons were permanently overloaded.Only problems were charging enemies like krogans or rachni.Neural shock works on them,but the duration wasnt great.

I tried out the medic.(that improves neural shock and improves healing)
Was great against rachni spit(healing) and combined with damping quite good crowd control.Nothing compared with drone,thats true.

But liara and/or kaidan solves such problems.

It's true that Engineer's weakness was highly overrated but which do you think would have an easier time: Engineer/Tali/Garrus or Adept/Liara/Wrex?  Or better yet instead of Garrus/Wrex put in Kaidan but he only spends points in either biotics or tech.  Ignore the dang crates, they're Conrad's jurisdiction. 

Against a geth colossus on foot it would be even.The worst thing would be a pure combat team with wrex that dont have warp or barrier.At least when the insanity playtrough isnt a new game plus.

[OniGanon]

Engineer was the most fragile class in ME1, simply because it had no Barrier or Immunity. I had a successful Insanity run using a Shotgun Medic though. A shotgun with weapon force mods and a bit of aggressive playing is surprisingly good CC, capable of keeping the average Krogan from ever recovering from that opening Neural Shock.



That being said, Insanity in ME1 was a lot easier than ME2 in my opinion.

[tonnactus]

OniGanon wrote...


That being said, Insanity in ME1 was a lot easier than ME2 in my opinion.

First time i played insanity in Mass Effect 2 i think this too.But not yet.Thorian creepers in combination with a good biotic behind them,that throws you to the floor and use warp.Instant dead.Husks were more dangerous in Mass Effect 1
with their electric blast,also krogans and there are smaller rooms so you couldnt escape that easy.Especially starting at level one on insanity was harder in Mass Effect 1 then now.The room with the rocket turrets...
A lot people(including me) just forget about it.

Modifié par tonnactus, 08 mars 2010 - 06:41 .

[RighteousRage]

At least there are no insanity thorian creepers in ME 2

[tonnactus]

RighteousRage wrote...

At least there are no insanity thorian creepers in ME 2

Just imagine Mass Effect One husks on the reaper ship mission with their electric blast...
Wouldnt that be awesome?

[Ollympian]

I played as a Infiltrator and they just stripped it down and built it back up (for the better) also the Vanguard has probably gone throught the biggest and best chnage IMO