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[bzombo]

Maviarab wrote...

If you have the momney to buy a dell...sorry I mean an alienware machine...
Then follow my advice carefully...

Either build something yourself for half the money and rent an escort for the night....or buy a car....or go on a bender....or buy anything really with the cash you will have left over

very true, but some people are no good at computer building (like me) and need other alternatives. $500 on a decent retail computer with a good graphics card can make for a low budget gaming computer that is also computer illiterate friendly. i don't know what the op is, but i hate assuming everyone can build a computer. i needed someone to help me install the graphics card and power supply.

[Loerwyn]

bzombo wrote...
very true, but some people are no good at computer building (like me) and need other alternatives. $500 on a decent retail computer with a good graphics card can make for a low budget gaming computer that is also computer illiterate friendly. i don't know what the op is, but i hate assuming everyone can build a computer. i needed someone to help me install the graphics card and power supply.

Once you know how to do it, basic computer maintenance/upkeep is incredibly simple. A lot of the time it's no more than a simple puzzle (that's expensive) - Components will only go in certain places and won't physically fit anywhere else. If you know where to touch, where not to touch and have an ounce of common sense then it's not "rocket science".  But at the $500 point (if it's anything like mass produced pre-builts at the equivalent price in the UK) you're generally getting a good deal. I've seen prebuilt systems that are more expensive to self-build if you bought the same parts.
What I did for my first system was a budget desktop and I bought myself a graphics card. Whacked it in and went on my way. I've since built a system (the one I'm using now) and it's doing alright. I don't play on the highest settings but I play on High-and-a-bit and I've no real problems aside from the odd stutter due to nVidia being unable to code drivers.

[CID-78]

it's usually fear of screwing up that stop people from upgrading or building their computers. all parts do have instruction manuals, and the motherboard has a detailed guide on how to build a whole computer more or less.

[J.D.C]

highest setting with Texture Mods freu freu for Dragon Age 2.



Setting up your PC for yourself is very easy, but somtimes a bit anoying especially the cpu cooler.

In germany its much cheaper than order an PC at an online shop, I've payed 800€ and build it for myself a friend has payed 1200€ for more worse components at xmx, which was prebuild.

[Pyroch]

Vengeful Nature wrote...

The thing about laptops is, they don't handle heat very well. I've never met anyone who had a laptop that survived past 1-2 years. even the ones that pretend to be 'gaming' laptops can't handle it. A tech-savvy friend of mine told me that it's the way all the components are crammed together to make it more laptop-y and small. Desktops'll last forever, though, and you can swap out the bits when they fail or become redundant. Plus, they're cheaper.

My old laptop is now almost 5 years old and still works quite good, I had to get it fixed two times because of wear and tear over the years, in that time I have broken three batteries and two power supplies.I also upgraded my hard disk to a bit bigger. However the next time it breaks down it may be the last since the connectors on the motherboard are really weak, I already lost my modem because the connector broke and the other ones might break too. The main problem with laptops is that they are difficult to repair and the only things you really can change is the RAM and hard disk.  When it comes to the cooling system I suspect that my constant habit of having something to put it on saved my system, now days I use a wooden sheet to put my laptop on .

Myself I am saving up for a new computer, I haven't yet decided on what kind yet or if I'm going to build it myself but one thing is certain, it is not going to be another laptop.

[Spitz6860]

for laptops, if you feel like a big spender go with Sager, if not, look for Asus or Gateway. anything between 1300-1500$ should be able to max out Dragon Age.

i can give you some links but i'll need more information, like your real name address phone number credit card number etc lol Just Kidding. just tell me your budget range, which country you live in and desireable screen size, some retailers are not international.

Modifié par Spitz6860, 10 mars 2010 - 09:03 .

[ClimaXo]

you could just go down to your neighborhood computer store and tell the computer geek there what you want and he will get you what you want. But if you buy the parts your self and install them or even have them install them you could get a better comp for cheaper.
My desk top runs it all out but i have a ASUS EAH5870 video card that just screams compared to the old card a EVGA GeForce 7800GTXT that would run it on the lowest setting for 15 minutes and shut down. If any one needs this GeForce card i will sell it to them cheep it works fine on any thing but the new games coming out now. I was going to try to find another one but then id need a new mother board. Yea just like the other man said you still are looking at a little screen. the smaller the screen the better they look you know not a 3" screen i mean like 14 to like 19 LCD  good graphics but small. Wow how much for the dual monitors if you don't mind me asking? I have one 27" monitor. I'm kinda new on here so sorry if i should have asked on another forum.

[ClimaXo]

CID-78 wrote... 


Yea all the parts come with instructions some are pretty detailed too for just pluging in a vido card or setting jumpers its easy theres alittle more than that though.But i didnt build mine ether for i might brake some thing and if they break the part ill never know it and they back it. ok your right i was scared maby next time!


it's usually fear of screwing up that stop people from upgrading or building their computers. all parts do have instruction manuals, and the motherboard has a detailed guide on how to build a whole computer more or less.

[Chakku Sama]

I play on the xbox, lcd tv, highest settings I think im going to get.

[Pen Dragon]

SayaSe wrote...

Pen Dragon wrote...

I'm saving for an I7 and ATI 5970 setup. It's taking me blinking ages I'd like to see my games maxed out. All new hardware will be out by the time I can afford my upgrade.

I can max it out on an i5 and a 4870.

And Alienwares are overpriced.

Who said anything about Alienware?  I build my own PCs like every PC gamer should.

[harrykim306]

I play on the highest settings on a 30" monitor at a resolution of 2560*1600 and it runs like a dream with no lagging or slowdown whats so ever.

[Vengeful Nature]

You don't need to make your own. You don't save much when what you could do is buy one of Dells cheaper models for around 500 quid, swap out the GPU for a something non-budget and bish bash bosh, you've got yourself something that can play Dragon Age very well without breaking a sweat, none of the hastle of building it yourself required.

[Gill Kaiser]

You know that Alienware is just an offshoot of Dell now, right? They got bought up a few years ago, and quality suffered. The sky-high prices didn't change, though.

I think the Alienware founders have a new PC building company now, but I can't remember its name.

[Vengeful Nature]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

You know that Alienware is just an offshoot of Dell now, right? They got bought up a few years ago, and quality suffered. The sky-high prices didn't change, though.
I think the Alienware founders have a new PC building company now, but I can't remember its name.

Yes indeed I did. I'm just saying, Dell also do budget ranges that can manage DA fine.

The main purpose of having an Alienware just seems to be bragging ammo. Half their advertising even implies this. If I had 2000 benjies to fritter away, I would probably get one, just to say I have one. But for no other purpose are they a better choice than other options.

[Loerwyn]

If I had that much money to "fritter away", I'd strip this PoS and rebuild it. Hell, I'd probably just build a new system.

I help out on another forum and someone asked about gaming laptops, and Alienware aren't too bad around the £1000 mark but there's much better systems out there.

[Andari_Surana]

If your going to go liquid cooling, let me just warn that those do-it-yourself kits, where you install the pump, tubes, etc aren't easy.



First, the tubes can be a pain to get on. Swiftech sent me "undersized" tubes and told me hobbyists OC'ers prefer to use one size to small.... I guess that means if u get them on, a leak is impossible. I had to boil them in water, use pliars to stretch them out, and used more strength then i'd dare say 90% of people posses to force them on the pump.



Then their resevoir had a leak issue. Had to get sillicone caulk and seal it up where the chrome plug fits into the bottom of the base. Which reminds me, you have to do things like short your powersupply, tricking it to provide power to only the pump (using a paper clip, or a seperate purchased product), so you can test the whole thing for leaks without risking shorting your motherboard.



I guess i'd just say, people say do it yourself and save a bundle, but doing it yourself isn't going to be for everyone....

[Ruiizu_]

you guys are awesome, thanks for your help



soooo... *throws plans for laptop out the window* ... building a desktop it is then



I've never opened up a computer in my life so i'll probs just buy the parts and find someone else to assemble it, unless it isn't too hard??? i'm pretty good at working things out and i'd like to learn... though Andari_Surana sound like you had a **** of a time





Thanks CID-78 i'll keep that in mind



anyone got any tips to help me build a one??? i was thinking of buying a cheep computer to begin with and just adding in the parts that i would need since i'm a novice at this sorta thing?? do you guys think that's the best way to go about it??

[k9medusa]

What I like to do is to look at Dell (other computer companies) system specs, then go to newegg.com and get the parts myself and based it off the blue prints from Dell and may be change the vid card or get a bigger hard drive, etc -- depends my on by budget... Build one is not hard, just be careful of the CPU and motherboard -- only parts that still scare me (I built over 5 in my history thus far....)

[Zannaa]

Heyas, i'm getting bad lags on my laptop. Is the following enough to be able to run the game smoothly?

ASUS

Pentium dualcore T4400 @2,2Ghz
Geforce GT 220M 1,00GB
4G RAM
DX10

[lionalio87]

Oops, I guess it is too weak, unfortunately. So if you cannot run well the game, so be it. The only thing you could do to upgrade the quality of the game is...buy a brand new laptop!!!