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[LordGarm]

So basically they wrote a hands-on preview with already known information, added a score and called it a review.

[Feraele]

Nic-V wrote...

What's happening with you people? 7.75 is GOOD not bad!

It's not great considering the reviews DA:O has had so far, and...numbers mean nothing without some sort of breakdown as to why.

[Feraele]

LordGarm wrote...

So basically they wrote a hands-on preview with already known information, added a score and called it a review.

I am thinking they "possibly" had to be careful about spoilers.....heh but Bioware has given out more spoilers than any reviewer thus far methinks.

Oh and 8 days to go.....we'll see how it measures up to the main campaign.

[Thaddeus Mynor]

tsk.. for a $40 expansion, i feel like they should have worked on it a bit more. maybe i'm being pessimistic, but part of me is scared this game is going to feel more like an overpriced DLC than anything else. (It should be 2/3 of a real game given the price, right? I'd rather hold this game to higher standards than to say that its okay to get a rough score because its an expansion.)

[Baconmonster723]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

An expansion isn't meant to improve the basics, but expand on them. His only valid comment is about the upgrading and the political sidequests being short. It's an expansion, so I didn't expect them to be really deep and long, but not too short either. But it's not a major source of dissapointment. If this was a full game, I would have been, but it's not. Perhaps in DA2, these mechanics and political intrigues can be upgraded and expanded upon much more.

This.  I think the reviewer has failed to grasp the concept of an expansion.  I agree with your assessment wholefartedly.

[Feraele]

Thaddeus Mynor wrote...

tsk.. for a $40 expansion, i feel like they should have worked on it a bit more. maybe i'm being pessimistic, but part of me is scared this game is going to feel more like an overpriced DLC than anything else. (It should be 2/3 of a real game given the price, right? I'd rather hold this game to higher standards than to say that its okay to get a rough score because its an expansion.)

I think that is currently Bioware's problem..they create quality and the fans expect quality (me included).   So their feet are being held to the fire ..really.  

So budget constraints,  "whatever orders from headquarters (EA) happen to be" technical difficulties...etc I guess is the norm. 

Voice actors too expensive or not available,  time limited as to how long they had to work on this expac.   All the behind the scenes things that affect the eventual quality of the product put out there.

I've pre-ordered...but that was before I discovered there are some things I don't like about this expac.

Still will give it the benefit of the doubt for now...I guess.

[Mr.Skar]

I do not understand all this complaining about the game being $40. The average console game that comes out, regardless of length, is $60. A new PC game, also regardless of length is usually $50. Awakening is gonna be what, 12-15 (maybe 20) hours long? How is this not a steal?



Complain about DA:A missing things you want to see, like returning characters or romances. Complain about the story or whatever else you feel like. The price should be a highlight, not a complaint.

[Brockololly]

Meh, so long as Awakening delivers a great gaming experience the price really doesn't bother me too much. $40 is fine for the console version but I don't get why the PC version is also $40 and not $30- back when full expansions were common, they often ran about $30 or so with the full game going for $50 on PC. I think when Awakening first went on pre-order on EA and Gamestop the PC price was $30 but quickly switched to $40. Why?

I just hope that Awakening delivers some solid content that substantially expands and develops the DA universe and doesn't just feel like filler or one big setup for whatever Bioware has planned next.

Modifié par Brockololly, 09 mars 2010 - 04:59 .

[Harcken]

A review is a review, your reviewing a game, and that's it. You can't make up excuses, "bu bu bu, he can't mark it down for that, it's an expansion!" "Bu bu bu, this is dlc! You can't give it a 5 because it's only 30 minutes long, look at the label!" I think lots of us expected this, and I hope other reviewers don't echo this "rushed" feeling, that many of us were afraid of. It's just laughable that many of these posts are "Bu bu bu... but your not allowed to ding points for this, this and this, because the game belongs in this, ______, category."

[Taiyama]

You know, it's a testament to how much loyalty to Dragon Age Bioware built up in me with the first game that I wouldn't care i GI gave it a score of 1, and I'm a longtime reader of Game Informer.



That said, the score on its own is nothing. Plus, my last "favorite game of all time" Tales of the Abyss (which Dragon Age: Origins supplanted) only got, like a seven or so in GI. I just have far different standards on what constitutes a good game than most people, mainly because I place an extremely high value on story and a lower value on gameplay, graphics, etc. TOA was my favorite for two years because even though the gameplay, graphics, etc. were par the story was AMAZING. Dragon Age: Origins mainly supplanted it by matching the quality of TOA's story and then giving me a protagonist of my own to control and letting me make choices rather than forcing me down a static narrative.



And that's my long-winded way of saying I love you, Bioware, and I'm with the Dragon Age franchise until the end no matter what others say.

[Hulk Hsieh]

Baconmonster723 wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

An expansion isn't meant to improve the basics, but expand on them. His only valid comment is about the upgrading and the political sidequests being short. It's an expansion, so I didn't expect them to be really deep and long, but not too short either. But it's not a major source of dissapointment. If this was a full game, I would have been, but it's not. Perhaps in DA2, these mechanics and political intrigues can be upgraded and expanded upon much more.

This.  I think the reviewer has failed to grasp the concept of an expansion.  I agree with your assessment wholefartedly.

Bioware made an expansion called ToB before.
I think it is fair to expect maybe half the content of it.

[Wyndham711]

Most of his complaints either don't make sense to me, or I feel are non-issues. I got the feeling he tried to approach this as a sequel. I don't like the sound of the political quests being short/simple - but thinking positively, I wasn't sure we were even going to get any political quests whatsoever. And what matters most to me, when roleplaying, is that those quests are there to begin with, to me it's not so important how long or involving they are. So in this sense, I feel we are already on the plus side.

[nuculars]

Seems it'll be a bit risky to fork out $40 for first-day purchase then. Although I'm a Bioware fan, gonna wait for more reviews/community consensus to see whether it's worth the full price..

[Densha82]

If the game really only clocks in at 15 hours I'm going to be exceedingly disappointed. That review might have pushed Awakening from a first-day buy to a wait-and-see for me. I don't spend $40 for a 15 hour expansion, sorry .

[Default137]

I still have one thing to say.

I GET TO UPGRADE A KEEP?

FUUUUUUCK YEAH.

Literally, Bioware could just make a game about building and maintaining a Keep, and taking care of the nearby lands, and it could last like 2 hours, and I'd still spend $50 and enjoy every minute of it, I love Keeps to death, and the whole economical/political aspects of them, even when done wrong I still manage to find absurd amounts of enjoyment from them.

/has 2 NWN2 saves during every stage of Crossroads Keep >_>

As for length, I just beat GoW3, it took me 7 hours, and I felt it was worth it, if Awakening can provide me with a good solid story, and interesting characters, I think 15 hours is a decent price, if it was a full game THIS IS AN OUTRAGE, but its not, its an expansion, even Throne of Bhaal only lasted 23ish hours for me. I'd much rather have a damn good 15 hour game then a ****ty Oblivion ripoff that lasts me 25.

Modifié par Default137, 09 mars 2010 - 07:52 .

[Borschtbeet]

This review proves one thing...



That Game Informer are a bunch of retards.

[Spitz6860]

at this age anything higher than a 6 is worth-playing, people like different things, almost every big titles on the market right now has a solid fan base

Modifié par Spitz6860, 09 mars 2010 - 10:44 .

[Evolution33]

He seemed to take off for the gameplay not doing anything different. That doesn't seem like much of a bad thing to me. It is an expansion of Dragon Age so shouldn't it play just like Dragon Age. i don't understand why reviewers want every game to be something new and exciting.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Hmm...no real origin for the Orlesian Warden Commander? Bummer. I was looking forward to being a frilly, ridiculous Orlesian XD

[Case]

I'll be really happy with 15 hours, especially since I'm going to play it at least twice. I've made characters, beaten it 3 times so far. I've never played a game back to back like that. I usually always give a great game like this a year or so to make the story fresh. Would have I liked

to see $30? Of course, but that's not going to stop

me from buying it. Unfortunately it shows that I'm willing to pay more for

less content but Ive gotten so much play time out of DA:O that I don't

mind this time.

[Muddle]

It looks as though $40 is going to be the price for expansions (not just from Bioware). It’s time to start getting used to it or stop buying.

[Count Viceroy]

$40? That's basically nothing. It's from bioware and it's more dragon age, that'senough to warrant a purchase from me. I've not been disapointed once and doubt i'll be this time either.

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 09 mars 2010 - 04:15 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Harcken wrote...

A review is a review, your reviewing a game, and that's it. You can't make up excuses, "bu bu bu, he can't mark it down for that, it's an expansion!" "Bu bu bu, this is dlc! You can't give it a 5 because it's only 30 minutes long, look at the label!" I think lots of us expected this, and I hope other reviewers don't echo this "rushed" feeling, that many of us were afraid of. It's just laughable that many of these posts are "Bu bu bu... but your not allowed to ding points for this, this and this, because the game belongs in this, ______, category."

That's like a professor removing points for a 5 pages essay, because he wanted 10 pages. Of course it matters what kind of game you review.
When reviewing an expansion, one must take into account:
- A limited budget
- Less development time.

With that in mind, I wonder how anyone could have possibly expected Awakening to revolutionise the gameplay mechanics. It's an expansion (as in not a full game), not a sequel. To judge it as a sequel, with expectations you would normally have for a sequel, is quite frankly idiotic.

 

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 09 mars 2010 - 04:21 .