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[Ollympian]

Which one is better, as they seem to be opposites almost (one long range, stealthy and tech and the other close range, obvious and biotic) which one would you say is better? Also which one would you say is better for suing on insanity difficulty?

Or provided you can get training with any weapon on the collector ship would you say the sentinel is better for insanity difficulty?

[Arde5643]

Both are really good for insanity regardless.

Some fights are easier for the infiltrators (mostly the early stages of the game when the vanguard's charge and passive skill aren't maxxed out yet), after that I find some of the middle and end game stages to be very easy as a vanguard with heavy charge, champion, and squad cyro.



Tip: For early stages as a vanguard, sometimes it's better to stay at long range and spam shockwave lvl 2 than charging in.

[sandman7431]

The vanguard is hard to use early on in the game. You basically find yourself cover sniping with the hand cannon a lot because charge can get you killed. Once you've maxed out to champion/destroyer and heavy charge, it becomes much easier to fight the way this class is meant to. The biggest challenge with infiltrators is the ammo available. Early in the game the infiltrator is easier than the vanguard and once you get the widow, this class really shines.

[ScroguBlitzen]

Both.

[AlphaJarmel]

Infiltrator.

[JaegerBane]

Ollympian wrote...

Which one is better, as they seem to be opposites almost (one long range, stealthy and tech and the other close range, obvious and biotic) which one would you say is better? Also which one would you say is better for suing on insanity difficulty?

Or provided you can get training with any weapon on the collector ship would you say the sentinel is better for insanity difficulty?

To be honest I would say they're equally matched at insanity. You just have to play to their strengths 100% of the time.

Frankly I found the Sentinel complete trash on three different difficulties. On the lower difficulties it was like a wannabe Adept with lots of shielding and wing-clipped attacks, and on the higher difficulties you have to adopt a really weird quasi-kamikaze playstyle of intentionally getting your tech armour blown off, as you don't have anything that does the job properly.

[Ollympian]

Yeah they both sound cool I am thinking of going with the Vanguard and then training with Assault Rifles when I get to the collector ship? Seeing as I have an Adept now and they are so good...

[Ollympian]

I have decided to go with infiltrator as they have areally cool skill and I can always train with Assault Rifles for that extra edge, Also I can get hold of a really good Sniper quickly in the game (wish I have collector edition now!!!)

[Occams Razor 17]

Ollympian wrote...

I have decided to go with infiltrator as they have areally cool skill and I can always train with Assault Rifles for that extra edge, Also I can get hold of a really good Sniper quickly in the game (wish I have collector edition now!!!)

I would recommend going with picking up the Widow instead.  On insanity, it's important to spend as little time as possible exposed to fire, so the drawback of the Widow's bolt-action essentially goes away, as you'd want to duck behind cover after one or two shots anyway.  

Besides, it's the Widow, it does more damage per shot than the Missile Launcher.  What more could ya want?

[Ollympian]

is the widow the first sniper you get? Because all I have is the semi-automatic sniper and the one you start off with...

[Arde5643]

Ollympian wrote...

I have decided to go with infiltrator as they have areally cool skill and I can always train with Assault Rifles for that extra edge, Also I can get hold of a really good Sniper quickly in the game (wish I have collector edition now!!!)

I suggest going with either Widow infiltrator or shotgun infiltrator for a totally different infiltrator approach.

With shotgun approach, you won't have trouble one-shotting enemies since you can cloak and walk up their faces.
Combined with 2x shotgun damage at melee range with cloak bonus damage plus headshot damage and melee -> one shot kill.

After that, you get 2 seconds to go back to cover before you get shot to death.

Widow infiltrator obviously is the optimal default infiltrator build and should be the first build people try as an infiltrator.

Assault rifle is boring on the infiltrator - skip it - you do a better job with viper and SMG than an infiltrator with vindicator or avenger.

[Ollympian]

Okay, thanks for they advice

can you tell me where about do I get the Widow sniper Rifle? is it on disc 1 or disc 2 (how far through the storyline?)

[Occams Razor 17]

Ollympian wrote...

is the widow the first sniper you get? Because all I have is the semi-automatic sniper and the one you start off with...

The Widow is the weapon you can pick instead of either assault rifle or shotgun training on the Collector Ship.

[ScroguBlitzen]

Disc 2, on disabled Collector Vessel. It's impossible to miss.

[Ollympian]

what difficulty do you have to be one because I am past that bit and I only got a semi automatic sniper. Or is it only available for soldiers and Infiltrators?

[Occams Razor 17]

Ollympian wrote...

Is it only available for soldiers and Infiltrators?

Yes

[Ollympian]

woooo



Well I better get recruiting my team them so I can get it...

Thank you all for your help!

[R-F]

played both, infiltrator is more fun for me, gotta love the cloak and headshot combo.

[Ollympian]

R-F wrote...

played both, infiltrator is more fun for me, gotta love the cloak and headshot combo.

yeah that does sound very appealing...

[sandman7431]

These are my two favorite classes although the widow soldier is awesome too.

[OneBadAssMother]

Widow soldier is great, especially after you get that +50% headshot upgrade. It practically replaces heavy weapons for tougher foes (I used them for husks heh - only annoyance in my insanity run).

[Arde5643]

The widow is definitely more efficient than heavy weapons for most missions.

[Ollympian]

So as I already have sniper rifle trainign iget the widow on the collector ship and I assume you can do the same for soldiers with AR's and vanguard with shotguns?

[thisisme8]

Ollympian wrote...

So as I already have sniper rifle trainign iget the widow on the collector ship and I assume you can do the same for soldiers with AR's and vanguard with shotguns?

Infiltrators get the option of picking the Widow, or weapons training for the shotgun or assault rifle.
Vanguards get the option of picking the Claymore, or weapons training for the assault rifle or sniper rifle.
Adept/Engineer/Sentinel get to pick assault rifle, sniper rifle, or shotgun weapons training.
Soldiers get to pick from the Widow, Claymore, or the Revenent (sometimes call the Reverend, since it sends people to heaven).
:innocent:

[Ollympian]

Oh okay that sound good, I might just go for the widow seeing as I am a sniper character?