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[Andorfiend]

Ok. I'm playing a Dwarf Noble (2-H warrior.) I celebrated my first command with a night with a noble hunter and now that I'm back in Orzammar I find I have a son. Well that's fine and dandy, but as far as I can tell I've only been gone a few weeks. And that's with leaving Orzammar for last. Just how short a gestation period do Dwarves have anyway? Are they marsupials maybe?

Oh and on the topic of dwarf breeding I was just thinking about Dagna (the adorable dwarf girl who wants to study with the circle.) There is no way she's not going to be dating while at the tower. What if she starts bringing magical potential to the dwarves? Could be cool in some future game.

[xzxzxz701]

Dwarves take the same amount of time as Humans do to have a child, it just that Orzammar was meant to be one of the last places for you to go so the game asumes that you have been gone at least a year. EDIT:And If a Dwarf and a Human have a child it will be a human so I don't think Danga will be bringing back any magic Dwarves any time soon.

Modifié par xzxzxz701, 08 mars 2010 - 08:12 .

[Wotannanow]

I think the plot fits best when you do Orzammar as your last quest. By then plenty of time has passed and the plot makes sense.

[SteoanK]

Andorfiend said right in his post he left Orzammar for last. Trying reading!



When I played a Human Mage I talked to Wynne quite a bit and she mentions at one point that I'd been gone for over a year and it was a surprise to me. But take into account virtual world travel time, rests, etc. And it made sense. It was a little surprising for me at first but the whole story I think takes place between the span of about 2 years.

[DalishRanger]

xzxzxz701 wrote...
EDIT:And If a Dwarf and a Human have a child it will be a human so I don't think Danga will be bringing back any magic Dwarves any time soon.

Incorrect. There are half-dwarves, they're just really, really rare.

[Creature 1]

Andorfiend wrote...
Well that's fine and dandy, but as far as I can tell I've only been gone a few weeks. And that's with leaving Orzammar for last.

The game is supposed to occur over somewhere around a year or more.  Traveling from Orzammar to Denerim probably takes nearly a month on its own, traveling from Lothering to Redcliffe to the Tower to Redcliffe to Denerim to the Tower to Haven to the Brecilian Forest to Orzammar to the Dead Roads to Orzammar to Denerim . . . well you get the point.  A lot of walking over a lot of time. 

[ejoslin]

Ugh, try not to think about the timeline too hard. Or else the City Elves have been locked down for a REALLY long time.

[Nonvita]

If you left Orzammar for last then you've definitely been gone for a year. It can take weeks just to travel across Ferelden, so add in the amount of travel you've done and voila, things took a lot longer than they seemed. Now, for those who go back to Orzammar first, there's definitely a big time discrepancy... The best thing to do is just not think about it. XD

Edit: Annnnd I'm slow. Rassafrassin ninjas. <_<

Modifié par Nonvita, 08 mars 2010 - 08:39 .

[Andorfiend]

Wait... that's ... But that raises MORE questions. ;_;



It only takes a day to get from Redcliff to the Tower according to Bann Teagan, and that looks to be about 1/2 to 1/3rd the distance from the Redcliff to Dennerim. Granting that land travel is slower than sea travel (and if I was travelling by boat why did the map show me walking around the lake and give me a land fighting encounter?) the journey to Dennerim shouldn't take that long. I mean from what I could tell dealing with both Redcliff and the Tower took a week, tops. And then the search for the Grail *ahem* I mean Urn took less time than it took the Arl to starve to death in his coma.



If I'm spending a year or two trucking around the countryside building up my forces while the darkspawn are apparently content to sit back in Lothering playing mubblety-peg then the whole plot justification for not having other Wardens on hand goes right out the window. I could have had a runner doing laps between me and the Orlesian Wardens in that timeframe!

[Nonvita]

It's been noted by the devs that the map is significantly off in scale. It needed to fit nicely onto the screen, and with all the little icons being spaced pleasingly, so it does not accurately portray distance. For example, Redcliffe is supposed to be on the west side of Lake Callenhad but was moved to the south side to spread the icons out better. It does, however, take several weeks or even over a month to traverse Ferelden, despite the inconsistencies that suggest otherwise...

[ejoslin]

It's the City Elf/Howe as Arl of Denerim that throws everything off for me. If you do CE origin, you find out that things have been really bad since you left. The new Arl of Denerim lead a purge and then there were the slavers. BUT . . . In Fort Drakon they joke about how short a time Howe was actually Arl. So was there a long period of time between when you left, the purge, and then the slavers? The purge couldn't have been THAT long before because, well, the guard refers to it being a huge mess in there.



Gah, I must be missing something, because this just makes the timeline seem completely off for me.

[Nonvita]

Maybe by "short time" they meant "only a year"? I can believe that the purge on the elves was happening for quite some time, as the Alienage seems to be in quite worse condition than it was in the origin. That does, however, imply that Vaughan and Soris were both imprisoned for a year, and plenty of other strange things.



It really is best to just ignore it. XD

[ejoslin]

Nonvita wrote...

Maybe by "short time" they meant "only a year"? I can believe that the purge on the elves was happening for quite some time, as the Alienage seems to be in quite worse condition than it was in the origin. That does, however, imply that Vaughan and Soris were both imprisoned for a year, and plenty of other strange things.

It really is best to just ignore it. XD

The joke made at the fort is, "He was Arl for what, 10 days?"  Obviously that's an exaggeration.

Yes, I try not to think about it too much!

[Andorfiend]

It makes me sad when people who are capable of quality produce something that works best when not thought about.

[Andorfiend]

I will say however that the 'You're a daddy' thing was very cool. It completely changed my characters approach to and goals in Orzammar. Now my son has a future and I even named him after Gorim. I'd just better have a dialogue option to tell him about it!



... and I really wish I had some way to kill that uppity bastard Vortag. I really want to let Shale squish his pointy little head.

[Andorfiend]

Gah! I was just leaving Orzammar and one of the gossips said "I heard there was I riot in Dennerim last night. I just spoke to a merchant who came from there."



So apparently going from Dennerim to Orzammar is a day trip. *pinches bridge of nose*



I'm forming the opinion that they forgot to include travel times in the technical bible for Ferelden.

[Malanek]

The timeline does seem a bit screwed up. How long the entire game takes seems to vary a bit. In human nobel games when you meet Fergus at the end it basically says the entire game is only a couple of weeks.

[Andorfiend]

Andorfiend wrote...
I'd just better have a dialogue option to tell him about it!

I don't! What kind of nug molesting writer puts in an option to name a child after a friend and then fails to put in a way to tell him about it?!? *headdesk*