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[SurfaceBeneath]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

This is why i hate star wars, it is quickly becoming more and more like the ridiculous marvel and DC comics.

In fact its getting even more ridiculous with all the time travels and this new cosmic entity that may be far more powerful than both sidious and nihilus.
God i hope that ME3 doesn't go down the same path because if it does, i am going to **** a brick.

Well, Biotics seem to be fairly "low magic" as it were, so I don't envision anything like that happening in the near future...

...actually I take that back. Liara in the comic series goes DBZ on more than one occassion 

[Meglivorn]

It's a subjective decision but for me ME2 way better than ME1 was. Cleared up or simply eliminated some anoying elements, the story got more deatiled and definitey longer. Of course no game is perfect but it's definitely improved.

For me, KotOR 1 was great and KotOR 2 playable but didn't like it. I didn't had any great expectations on ME2 just wanted it to be as good as ME1 was. Well it proved to be WAY better. So the ME2 CE worth every dime I spent on it.

[SithLordExarKun]

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

SithLordExarKun wrote...

This is why i hate star wars, it is quickly becoming more and more like the ridiculous marvel and DC comics.

In fact its getting even more ridiculous with all the time travels and this new cosmic entity that may be far more powerful than both sidious and nihilus.
God i hope that ME3 doesn't go down the same path because if it does, i am going to **** a brick.

Well, Biotics seem to be fairly "low magic" as it were, so I don't envision anything like that happening in the near future...

...actually I take that back. Liara in the comic series goes DBZ on more than one occassion 

I honestly hated liara being the lead in the comic.

And now hearing her voice in FFXIII, ugh.

[voteDC]

Bennyjammin79 wrote...

voteDC wrote...

The story also feels far more disjointed than it did in the first game. You no longer have the sense of urgency that Saren and his Geth presented, instead you have an enemy that you rarely see or get to interact with.

I have to call you out here. Saren and the geth created ZERO sense of urgency. There were no penalties or reprocussions for taking your sweet ass time. ME2 creates that. ME1 simply didn't even come close.

I agree the Collectors are rarely seen but that's sort of the whole schtick with them anyways.

True there were no game penalties for taking your sweet time in 1 but then again neither are there in 2 as you can leave the trigger mission for as long as you want.

Also its the implied sense of urgency you get from the first game, for me at any rate, there is always the thought that Saren and the Geth are up to something and scheming in the background. Then of course there are those times you get to interact with Saren which give you a real insight into his thoughts and motivations.

Slip into game 2 and the Collectors might as well have been sitting down and having a cup of tea for all the urgency they presented. I never once had the concern that they might be up to something behind the scenes which is meant to be what they are best at.

Mass Effect 2 has great story elements but, again for me, they just don't blend well into an exciting whole.

I know I'm making Mass Effect 2 sound much worse than I actually think it is but so many, with a few exceptions,  are saying that the game is great and better than the first without spending any effort to say why they hold that opinion.

Modifié par voteDC, 09 mars 2010 - 03:45 .

[SurfaceBeneath]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

SithLordExarKun wrote...

This is why i hate star wars, it is quickly becoming more and more like the ridiculous marvel and DC comics.

In fact its getting even more ridiculous with all the time travels and this new cosmic entity that may be far more powerful than both sidious and nihilus.
God i hope that ME3 doesn't go down the same path because if it does, i am going to **** a brick.

Well, Biotics seem to be fairly "low magic" as it were, so I don't envision anything like that happening in the near future...

...actually I take that back. Liara in the comic series goes DBZ on more than one occassion 

I honestly hated liara being the lead in the comic.

And now hearing her voice in FFXIII, ugh.

I feel ya.

[Shadowwot]

I thought both were great.



Although I liked both KOTOR, I preferred the 2nd game despite the issues it had.

[jbadm04]

DarthCaine wrote...

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

KoTOR 1 was better than 2?

I disagree sir.

Yes, YOU disagree
But IMO KOTOR1 is faaaaaaaaar better than KOTOR2 (buggy unfinished game with a crap plot)
I've seen many discussions and polls on lots of different forums and KOTOR1 has always won

actualy who cares what the majority says? when it comes to tastes, its all about you and only you. I enjoyed playing KOTOR2 over KOTOR, I even sold my copy of kotor during my college days but kept kotor2.

Back on topic. We have a lot of thinks that got cut, revamped or improved. ME2 is still ME but a bit different, I suggest you go check the millions of "disappointment with me2" threads to see the differences. Overall ME2 is as enjoyable and good as ME, but it lacks its epic story. It is still good, but not as epic as ME.

[Pepper4]

Mass Effect 2 easily wins on combat and graphics.

Story is kinda even

I do miss the more complicated inventory of ME1, which was horrible to manage but had more customization options.

ME2's DLC rate and quality is also much better.

I think that ME2 is still as much RPG as the first one was. The interrupt system is a major improvment.

I think that ME1 side missions were better. Instead of "kill people and sprint to the finish" (like many of the N7 missions) they actually had some story, with decisions and multiple possible outcomes.

Another tweaks, like the play after end option, bigger & better Normandy with space hamsters, gear customization and no more mountain climbing, help ME2 be a better game overall.

Actually when I think about it, I liked mountain climbing better than mineral salvaging.

[Impala]

idk for me mass effect 1 had a lot more replay value than ME2. I like the gameplay more in ME2 though, but I do miss the talent system from ME1. I can't really point to anything that specifically put ME1 over ME2 for me but it is just a better game IMO.

[Acero Azul]

I like both games, but find myself playing ME2 more because the gameplay is better

[EnciZion]

Ok, so bottom line is its still worth it i assume?

[Impala]

yes it's still worth it, especially since you've already played the second one. I played ME2 first and then ME1 and it cleared up a lot of the original story for me. Not to mention Wrex is in ME1 and he is probably one of the best characters in the series.

[adembroski11]

EnciZion wrote...

Ok, so bottom line is its still worth it i assume?

Absolutely. Any complaints I have about either come with the disclaimer "I love this friggin' game" regardless:P

[EnciZion]

Impala wrote...

yes it's still worth it, especially since you've already played the second one. I played ME2 first and then ME1 and it cleared up a lot of the original story for me. Not to mention Wrex is in ME1 and he is probably one of the best characters in the series.

Well i am still playing one, half way through, haven't played 2. Sorry if i was vague

[WildH3artless]

Michel1986 wrote...

WildH3artless wrote...
QFT

Means ?

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

KoTOR 1 was better than 2?

I
disagree sir.

KOTOR 1 whas
much better then 2 so i agree with him, KOTOR 2
didnt even had a good story like KOTOR 1.
KOTOR 2 had unfinished stuff (droid factory
etc) and alot of bugs (with my old ati 9800 card it crashed every 15-20
minutes)

QFT = Quoted For Truth

Basically means I agree 100%

[Mak89]

ME2 is more fun, maybe not better but atleast almost as good. That being said you should know if you want it or not, just play it and make your own opinion on it.

[Mak89]

Also Kotor 2 was by Obsidion so of course it was different and not as good. I do like the dark feel of Kotor 2 but it was unpolished and boring at times.

[Elvis_Mazur]

Almost everything is better in Mass Effect 2. The Scanner is worst than the Mako and the history are in the same level in both games. Gameplay,graphics, OST are better in Mass Effect 2.



Buy it, you won't regret

[Misterza]

Ginnerben wrote...

ME2 is ME1 but streamlined. Personally, loving it.

Ditto.

[voteDC]

Bennyjammin79 wrote...
The story might personally engage you in way that makes you feel this sense of urgency but it's not a game design. It's just a personal thing

That being said ME2 could use a little more exploration.

I think you are right, it is a person thing.

The reason I enjoy both games is because of the story but I simply find the story in the first game more engaging.
A definite case of agree to disagree happening here.

I'll leave commenting on the other stuff I posted because because I could go on about those for ages.

[Mr_Steph]

PetrySilva wrote...

Almost everything is better in Mass Effect 2. The Scanner is worst than the Mako and the history are in the same level in both games. Gameplay,graphics, OST are better in Mass Effect 2.

Buy it, you won't regret

This sums up my thoughts perfectly really.