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#1201
Gnaeus.Silvanus

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Eurypterid wrote...

Desasosiego wrote...

-Try out ME2 on a friends pc.

-Game crashes.

-Read ME2 forums.

-It's not even being considered (as it was not a single core machine).

-Latest post on ME2 crash thread is a bot selling viagra.


And here I was expecting Bioware not to have gone THAT bad. I actually was expecting like... a patch.

Guess not.

I guess they are trolling their customers...


You might be interested in This Thread.


:sick: This thread is for the xbox. Please read properly next time. :sick:

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You might take note of the last line in the thread:

"Currently this patch is only for the 360, but a patch for the PC version of Mass Effect 2 is in the works and we will have details as soon as they are ready"

Thanks for the tip on reading properly though. <_<

Modifié par Eurypterid, 18 mai 2010 - 12:33 .


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Fortunately with ME2 there seems to be a light on the end of the tunnel. ME2 patched or not is still very stable and doesn't tax or crash my system at all.



But if you remind me of DA, @#!@!##@#@#!#!, this is my answer. Haven't touched the game since finishing Awakening in March, 2010. DA 1.03 is pissing me off terribly, figuratively and literally.

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Eurypterid wrote...

You might take note of the last line in the thread:

"Currently this patch is only for the 360, but a patch for the PC version of Mass Effect 2 is in the works and we will have details as soon as they are ready"

Thanks for the tip on reading properly though. <_<


You are correct. My bad.

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OK, Not to sound like a Azzhat Or even if I do (I am a Azzhat after all) But what the Hairy F#$K does ME2 that based on a Different Engine got to do with Dragon Age Patch 1.03 ?!?!??!



Get on your own threads or Stay on TOPIC on this thread !



Fixing Dragon Age Patch 1.03!




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You're right. It's off topic. I just pointed it out to the person that was whining about how BioWare was going downhill because of no PC patch for ME2. Apologies, dragonsouce.

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Eurypterid wrote...

You're right. It's off topic. I just pointed it out to the person that was whining about how BioWare was going downhill because of no PC patch for ME2. Apologies, dragonsouce.


With patches coming out for other games and other platforms of DA is there any news at all regarding a patch for the problems many of us are having with 1.03?

It's getting irritating to have to keep dusting my Awakening box, not to mention not being able to install Feastday, or even have the chance to play the Darkspawn Chronicles. It gets even more irritating when we see announcements about these other patches while we are waiting to hear ANY comments from Bioware about unplayable PC content.

Any little carrot would do - even an acknowledgement that a patch is under development. Please?????

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Nathan already stated in this thread that a patch is being worked on, and Victor said as much in a thread on the Awakening forums. Granted, that was some days ago. Other than that I have no information (I'm not a BioWare employee, so don't have any inside information).



Believe me, I'd like to see a patch as well. I do think it's being worked on, and am encouraged to see the PS3 got one just yesterday. I'm hopeful that means something may happen soon. But that's just me.

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Hmm... I wish I'd seen them. I keep looking for news in the wrong places it seems.



So who do we petition so that you DO get insider information? It would be most useful to have an active person here who knows what's going on ;)

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I doubt that would happen. I'd love to be able to give you guys some news. Hell, I'd love to have some news myself. But since I'm not an employee of BioWare or EA, the chances of me getting inside info is pretty much nil.

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Seems to me they wouldn't need so many patches if they got it right the first time. Maybe they should try testing their **** before they release it? Then maybe they wouldn't need half a million patches to fix the original patch. :o

OMG, I'VE SPOKEN BLASPHEMY!!!


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Xx_Belzak_xX wrote...

Seems to me they wouldn't need so many patches if they got it right the first time. Maybe they should try testing their **** before they release it? Then maybe they wouldn't need half a million patches to fix the original patch. :o
OMG, I'VE SPOKEN BLASPHEMY!!!

Amen
I Think the trouble is they have all this Downloadable content ready to sell and released the game ,And forgot that Windows 7 and DX11 evolved/updated since the game was made.

In other words they wear testing the DCL instead of the game and spead them selfs to thin.

Personaly I Like DCL and would pay for it but obviously EA and Bioware are not set up to do both and bit off to much make both suffer.

Just bad Management. They should of waited on the patch till they KNEW it was good but all there focus was on Awakened DLC and testing that.


PS

If they released a Install log ; A List of files it up dated and Regchanges it makes and 3rd party stuff it installs I know we could fix it are selfs any chance that might happen?

Plain Pure stupid Greed what else is there to say.

I can not make heads ortails why that dammed patch crashes on some PC (like mine) but not others nor will I or the comunity come up with a Answear as it's just to Screwed up for a real consistant description as to what's wrong. AS IT JUST TO WRONG.

I still think it's registry install issue but no clue what it is failing to install or installing wrong.

They should of used real Beta Tester's with real systems not perfectly clean pure Newly installed virgin Desktops.But again it comes down to the same thing.Incompetent  Management that got gready.
This is Not just 20 20 hindsight on my part but standard Industry Practice to test a Beta Patch wait 4 months then release the real patch and about a month later release the expantion.
Again it was all rushed becouse of pure greed. All wanting there Executive Bonuse Shame big Bissnesses bo not bo  Executive FINES along with Executive Bonuses.


EA BIOWARE NEXT TIME TWO WORDS" BETA TESTING"!!!!!!!!

A 100 man test group and this would never of happened.

Modifié par dragonsouce, 18 mai 2010 - 04:31 .


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Cloud Windfoot Omega wrote...

Nieseln wrote...

I'd just like to add my name to the list of people suddenly suffering from random crashes with DA Awakenings.
 
I never had any problems with DAO; now I'm playing DA Awakening with 1.03 patch and it's crashed to black screen 3 times in between the first fight with the First and the fight with the Baroness. This in my view makes the game unplayable - I really do not like my machine crashing like that since goodness knows what state it leaves my machine in. Judging by the huge amount of postings, I would like to add my voice asking for a bug fix to address this problem.

Also of note, I had similar problems with Mass Effect 2 (though no such problems with Mass Effect) - The only way I got around the ME2 problem was to lower the resolution right down and switch off the fancy graphics options. This made it playable but not the way it was surely meant to be played.

For what it's worth my systems specs are:

XP Home Edition (32 Bit) SP3 Intel Core2 6600 @ 2.4Ghz, 2G RAM, Geforce 8800 GT, DirectX 9.0, 512M Driver version 196.21.

... though judging from the wider variety of other posters on this and related threads, I'd be highly surprised if it was my spec.

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actually your mass effect crashes seem like overheat problems. try cleaning your case for dust.


Many thanks for the suggestion. I think it is unlikely to be dust however since I cleaned out my case a few weeks back when replacing my old PSU (which had died on me). If overheating is the problem, then it's likely some other cause. And why would it only just start to crash in this particular section of the Blackmarsh when I had about a week worth of playing it problem free elsewhere in other areas like in the Wending Woods and Kal'Hirol? I agree I could be wrong but this thread would tend to indicate there are perhaps other causes than overheating than crashes. As I say though, thanks for the suggestion.

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Multi cores seem to be a common thread in the memory problem and crashes but dose not accout for the missing Messes and broken quests that some suffer and others do not.

XP uses why not immuned do seem to have less problems. guess your just lucky Nieseln sorry.

All I can suggest is to do a compete reinstall including games and mods (I read this did work for some XP uses)and if that fails use a cr*ck exe some reported that fixed there problem were all else failed.

you can also try the steem vertion using your Cd Key to actorvate.

Modifié par dragonsouce, 18 mai 2010 - 10:17 .


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Nieseln wrote...

Cloud Windfoot Omega wrote...

Nieseln wrote...

I'd just like to add my name to the list of people suddenly suffering from random crashes with DA Awakenings.
 
I never had any problems with DAO; now I'm playing DA Awakening with 1.03 patch and it's crashed to black screen 3 times in between the first fight with the First and the fight with the Baroness. This in my view makes the game unplayable - I really do not like my machine crashing like that since goodness knows what state it leaves my machine in. Judging by the huge amount of postings, I would like to add my voice asking for a bug fix to address this problem.

Also of note, I had similar problems with Mass Effect 2 (though no such problems with Mass Effect) - The only way I got around the ME2 problem was to lower the resolution right down and switch off the fancy graphics options. This made it playable but not the way it was surely meant to be played.

For what it's worth my systems specs are:

XP Home Edition (32 Bit) SP3 Intel Core2 6600 @ 2.4Ghz, 2G RAM, Geforce 8800 GT, DirectX 9.0, 512M Driver version 196.21.

... though judging from the wider variety of other posters on this and related threads, I'd be highly surprised if it was my spec.

Nieseln Image IPB

actually your mass effect crashes seem like overheat problems. try cleaning your case for dust.


Many thanks for the suggestion. I think it is unlikely to be dust however since I cleaned out my case a few weeks back when replacing my old PSU (which had died on me). If overheating is the problem, then it's likely some other cause. And why would it only just start to crash in this particular section of the Blackmarsh when I had about a week worth of playing it problem free elsewhere in other areas like in the Wending Woods and Kal'Hirol? I agree I could be wrong but this thread would tend to indicate there are perhaps other causes than overheating than crashes. As I say though, thanks for the suggestion.

like i said, only mass effect only. the dragon age crashes are memory overflow and leaks

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dragonsouce wrote...

Multi cores seem to be a common thread in the memory problem and crashes but dose not accout for the missing Messes and broken quests that some suffer and others do not.

XP uses why not immuned do seem to have less problems. guess your just lucky Nieseln sorry.

All I can suggest is to do a compete reinstall including games and mods (I read this did work for some XP uses)and if that fails use a cr*ck exe some reported that fixed there problem were all else failed.

you can also try the steem vertion using your Cd Key to actorvate.


Not at all, my rig is still XP and there are sporadic crashes all the time. If I play let's say four hours, the average crash would be more than ten (10), can I include the grinding FPS? That would be more than fifty (50) instances specially if there are spells performed. That almost didn't happen when it was version 1.00 but when the patches came along, gradually there was performance hit, and that made worst by patch 1.03.

Oh well, my preoccupation with DA will probably die down finally because its no longer interesting. All I can remember about the game now is the constant crashes and unstable performance.

:devil:

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dragonsouce wrote...

OK, Not to sound like a Azzhat Or even if I do (I am a Azzhat after all) But what the Hairy F#$K does ME2 that based on a Different Engine got to do with Dragon Age Patch 1.03 ?!?!??!

Get on your own threads or Stay on TOPIC on this thread !

Fixing Dragon Age Patch 1.03!


A bit, same company, same problem (not sure if on my rig, but happens on a friends rig -wich has minimal hw differences with mine, being his cheaper-) and same solution: "there might be a patch soon that might fix it".

In other words: Same problems, same company, same "fixes". Keep your hopes up if you wish, but as Gnaeus, the only thing I remember about DA now is the crashing. And I will remember it for a loooooong time, Bioware's lifespan or mine, wichever is shorter, to be more precise.

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I say again,

EA BIOWARE NEXT TIME TWO WORDS" BETA TESTING"!!!!!!!!



A 100 man test group and this would never of happened.

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dragonsouce wrote...

I say again,
EA BIOWARE NEXT TIME TWO WORDS" BETA TESTING"!!!!!!!!

A 100 man test group and this would never of happened.

...I think we are EA's beta test group -.-.  And if that's the case then I want to get paid! :whistle:

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dragonsouce wrote...

I say again,
EA BIOWARE NEXT TIME TWO WORDS" BETA TESTING"!!!!!!!!

A 100 man test group and this would never of happened.


Can you guarantee 100% that a 100 man test group would have meant this wouldn't have happened? Would you stake all of your possessions to back it up? Your life maybe? No? Ok then.

Do you have any idea the monetary costs of having 100 professional testers sit down and bug hunt? Oh, you say, they could have the community do it for free! Yeah... that works out well. Take a look at the MMO's out there that have Beta programs for updates/launches - many bugs get missed because too many folks are in it for the free 'trial', or they find a bug that allows them to exploit the system and keep it mum for their own benefit.

There is no way to guarantee 100% 'clean' bug free code in software design when working with a product as complex as this. You could have tons of folks stress testing the heck out of a product... only to have a bug pop up out of nowhere (it seems at times) that completely destroys the experience [in the case of games] or breaks functionality [in the case of games and other software applications].

I am one of the many affected by the crash issues with patch 1.03, and I am very annoyed at it and have stopped playing the game until I see a fix.

It does not help BioWare, nor the community, to go and say stuff like I quoted though. End users always know everything about how to fix a problem with the code. It is always simple, easy to implement, etc. That is because many times they are not coders themselves, and they are not working for BioWare[or whatever company the rant flavour of the week is]. Get it through your heads... unless you are in control of the source code and are one of the main coders on a project you have no frikkin idea whether or not something is easy to do, could have been avoided w/ more testing, etc.

It is a pet peeve of mine when I see people say stuff like that, sorry for the rant.

Now.. wheres patch 1.04? It has been ~3 months now since my game got broken.

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carlosjuero wrote...

dragonsouce wrote...

I say again,
EA BIOWARE NEXT TIME TWO WORDS" BETA TESTING"!!!!!!!!

A 100 man test group and this would never of happened.


Can you guarantee 100% that a 100 man test group would have meant this wouldn't have happened? Would you stake all of your possessions to back it up? Your life maybe? No? Ok then.

Do you have any idea the monetary costs of having 100 professional testers sit down and bug hunt? Oh, you say, they could have the community do it for free! Yeah... that works out well. Take a look at the MMO's out there that have Beta programs for updates/launches - many bugs get missed because too many folks are in it for the free 'trial', or they find a bug that allows them to exploit the system and keep it mum for their own benefit.

There is no way to guarantee 100% 'clean' bug free code in software design when working with a product as complex as this. You could have tons of folks stress testing the heck out of a product... only to have a bug pop up out of nowhere (it seems at times) that completely destroys the experience [in the case of games] or breaks functionality [in the case of games and other software applications].

I am one of the many affected by the crash issues with patch 1.03, and I am very annoyed at it and have stopped playing the game until I see a fix.

It does not help BioWare, nor the community, to go and say stuff like I quoted though. End users always know everything about how to fix a problem with the code. It is always simple, easy to implement, etc. That is because many times they are not coders themselves, and they are not working for BioWare[or whatever company the rant flavour of the week is]. Get it through your heads... unless you are in control of the source code and are one of the main coders on a project you have no frikkin idea whether or not something is easy to do, could have been avoided w/ more testing, etc.

It is a pet peeve of mine when I see people say stuff like that, sorry for the rant.

Now.. wheres patch 1.04? It has been ~3 months now since my game got broken.


Gee I can say out 100 random people they would had the chance to of seen that the beta would of broke there game and they would of waited. Monetary costs of beta testas would of been zero as they could used a free copy of the Awakening as pay or even just ask for people to be Volentears Nicely.

Would I bet all I own? No becouse I am not retarded but they could of checked it and tested it by marking it as a Un tested Beta.
But I would Bet all that I own that  patch 1.03 was not tested enough And needed Beta Testing as it broke are game and dose not work. That called a shore thing. As there was never any BETA  RELEASE of anykind. I think it could been tested a little bit more in the BETA REALEASE.


It is a pet peeve of mine when I see people say stuff like that, sorry
for the rant.:whistle:

P.S. I Have been a beta tester and worked as a Beta tester for pay and  DO KNOW what I am talking about.

PPS I like you carlosjuero your funny!:D

Your saying that the patch did not need Beta testing before release but complaining it dose not work? HHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAH HAHAHHAHHHHHHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHHAHAHHAHHAH
HAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Gods I needed a good laugh!

Modifié par Eurypterid, 19 mai 2010 - 10:55 .


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It seems that all my crashes brought by 1.03 has to do with sound issues. When the game CTD, there are still some game sounds in the background playing, broken sounds, not sure what's the English word for that but they're not clear crystalline sounds as they play during the game, before the crashes of course.

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Back in the NWN days an issue like this would have been acknowledged and fixed within a week of it being reported. Since this patch was released Bioware have shipped a full expansion AND a new DLC package. Since my game is now UNPLAYABLE cause it crashes to desktop every 5 minutes I wont be buying either of them. If they care more about rushing out new content more than fixing errors in what we already have then I'm not sure I can be arsed to buy their s**t anymore.



I own every game, expansion pack and DLC package Bioware have made (even sonic chronicles lol) and support for the games post release has been slipping downhill ever since Mass Effect (maybe its EA's fault) If this keeps up ill lose all faith in them.

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The-Crack-Fox wrote...

Back in the NWN days an issue like this would have been acknowledged and fixed within a week of it being reported. Since this patch was released Bioware have shipped a full expansion AND a new DLC package. Since my game is now UNPLAYABLE cause it crashes to desktop every 5 minutes I wont be buying either of them. If they care more about rushing out new content more than fixing errors in what we already have then I'm not sure I can be arsed to buy their s**t anymore.

I own every game, expansion pack and DLC package Bioware have made (even sonic chronicles lol) and support for the games post release has been slipping downhill ever since Mass Effect (maybe its EA's fault) If this keeps up ill lose all faith in them.


I just hope there isn't a repeat of the Mass Effect PC problem - I think there was something like a year (give or take) between their second and final patch. I had no problems with ME PC but god damn, I pity the poor people who did. It becomes more of a worry now because I actually have problems with this game, and really, waiting a year for the next patch is... a nightmare.

Probably not going to happen though since ME PC was ported by a third party and that had a lot to do with it, I think. Got to agree with you though, the days of patching like they did with NWN are a thing of the past.

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yeah not really expecting patches all the way up to 1.69 lol. be nice though. By the end NWN must have had maybe 3 people working on bugfixes? Wonder if Bioware still employs them...