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[Tooneyman]

It all depends on the shepards I created. I've got six a few are bounded to support it.

[Terraneaux]

None of my characters do, my Renegade probably would but he's a Sole Survivor.



Out of game, I have a problem with how the organization was portrayed in ME2. It smacks of cheerleading for TIM's character at the expense of the main character and the play experience. In the best case scenerio it's bad writing, in the worst case scenario someone's trying to tell some sort of Libertarian fairy tale.

[Netzach]

I support him because he wants the Reapers as pets! I want one

[SerenityN0w]

I support Cerberus because if it wasn't for them Shepard would be dead the Alliance would still be slandering everything Shepard did and continue living in there fantasy world where reapers don't exist and doing something about the vanishing HUMAN colonies is just a waste of time. Also it's thanks to Cerberus that the Collectors are no longer a threat. I'm just saying if it wasn't for Cerberus the galaxy would be 100x's more ****ed than it is.

Modifié par SerenityN0w, 09 mars 2010 - 08:11 .

[Terraneaux]

SerenityN0w wrote...

I support Cerberus because if it wasn't for them Shepard would be dead the Alliance would still be slandering everything Shepard did and continue living in there fantasy world where reapers don't exist and doing something about the vanishing HUMAN colonies is just a waste of time. Also it's thanks to Cerberus that the Collectors are no longer a threat.

Taking the game literally, it was lucky that Cerberus did what it did (they're still ****s).  Taking a critical view, it was unrealistic that nobody else was doing anything about it.  

[Dualfinger]

They have this irritating tendancy to be douches. So no, I don't like them.

Modifié par Dualfinger, 09 mars 2010 - 08:10 .

[Alexandus]

While the Alliance and the Council sat making excuses, Cerberus acted.



While others cast blame at the Illusive Man, he made the hard choices the situation needed.



While all others let Shepard rot, Cerberus ressurected him.



While others doubted the Reaper threat, Cerberus recognized it as the threat it is.



Cerberus has my vote.

[swirlwind]

Cerberus is a terrorist organisation. I don't support terrorists. Most of my Shepards don't either, but my humans first Shepard likes them just fine. My evil Renegade Shepard doesn't care about them, but is happy to use them to get what she wants.

[enormousmoonboots]

Nope. Idiots in the first game with an undercurrent of 'evil for the sake of evil' (what possible benefit is there to injecting humans with thresher maw blood? Or feeding a unit to them?), dirty manipulating liars in the second game.



Also, responsible for getting me Husk-rushed four times. That's unforgivable.

[Terraneaux]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

enormousmoonboots wrote...

Nope. Idiots in the first game with an undercurrent of 'evil for the sake of evil' (what possible benefit is there to injecting humans with thresher maw blood? Or feeding a unit to them?), dirty manipulating liars in the second game.

Also, responsible for getting me Husk-rushed four times. That's unforgivable.

Yes, but what about the current situation.  Is it a necessary evil to cooperate with them because of the Alliance and the Council's inability to deal with the threat of the Reapers?

Maybe.  But the game stretches believability quite a bit to make Cerberus omnicompetent and everyone else terminally stupid.  

[Keltoris]

http://masseffect.wi...ony_of_the_Dead

http://masseffect.wi...Missing_Marines

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Akuze



No further questions your honour.

[SerenityN0w]

enormousmoonboots wrote...

Nope. Idiots in the first game with an undercurrent of 'evil for the sake of evil' (what possible benefit is there to injecting humans with thresher maw blood? Or feeding a unit to them?), dirty manipulating liars in the second game.

Also, responsible for getting me Husk-rushed four times. That's unforgivable.

Your right about the thresher maw thing that was ****ed up and unnecessary but them bringing Shep back to life and saving the galaxy from the Collectors as well as actually doing something about the coming Reaper threat should earn them some trust. The Alliance on the other hand wants to just sit there and hope these problems fix themselves or just pretend they don't exist at all.

Modifié par SerenityN0w, 09 mars 2010 - 08:26 .

[Alexandus]

Terraneaux wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

enormousmoonboots wrote...

Nope. Idiots in the first game with an undercurrent of 'evil for the sake of evil' (what possible benefit is there to injecting humans with thresher maw blood? Or feeding a unit to them?), dirty manipulating liars in the second game.

Also, responsible for getting me Husk-rushed four times. That's unforgivable.

Yes, but what about the current situation.  Is it a necessary evil to cooperate with them because of the Alliance and the Council's inability to deal with the threat of the Reapers?

Maybe.  But the game stretches believability quite a bit to make Cerberus omnicompetent and everyone else terminally stupid.  

Perhaps the omnicompetent bit was somewhat valid, but I'd argue that the alliance/council being in denial is extremely realistic.

We tend to shy away from things which are frightening or unpleasant, as a species.

[Mnemnosyne]

I support Cerberus as a concept and as an organization. Such organizations are, I think, necessary, and Cerberus is, at least as far as what they do with Shepard, effective.



I am more on the fence about the Illusive Man himself. I marginally support him at least on the basis of what he says he supports and does, but I feel like there's too much I don't know about him, his goals, and his methods to be certain he is being honest about his intentions with Cerberus.



Essentially, like a large number of things, I support the idea and the principle of Cerberus, although some of the execution I may have issues with.

[Terraneaux]

Alexandus wrote...

Perhaps the omnicompetent bit was somewhat valid, but I'd argue that the alliance/council being in denial is extremely realistic.

We tend to shy away from things which are frightening or unpleasant, as a species.

First of all, that says nothing about aliens, and in any case humans definitely have a spectrum of appreciation for the other, from xenophobes to xenophiles.  

Also, at the end of the first game the council agrees that the reapers are a threat, and seem ready to gear up for the war effort.  Somewhere in between they change their mind for no reason.  This is so egregious a plot hole that people have been coming up with theories like the council being indoctrinated to explain this.  

[enormousmoonboots]

SerenityN0w wrote...

enormousmoonboots wrote...

Nope. Idiots in the first game with an undercurrent of 'evil for the sake of evil' (what possible benefit is there to injecting humans with thresher maw blood? Or feeding a unit to them?), dirty manipulating liars in the second game.

Also, responsible for getting me Husk-rushed four times. That's unforgivable.

Your right about the thresher maw thing that was ****ed up and unnecessary but them bringing Shep back to life and saving the galaxy from the Collectors as well as actually doing something about the coming Reaper threat should earn them some trust. The Alliance on the other hand wants to just sit there and hope these problems fix themselves or just pretend they don't exist at all.

Are you seriously implying TIM wanting to build a human Reaper is a good thing? You really think that could possibly end well? (if you're a devotee of the God-Emperor, you need not answer this question)

[SerenityN0w]

Terraneaux wrote...

Alexandus wrote...

Perhaps the omnicompetent bit was somewhat valid, but I'd argue that the alliance/council being in denial is extremely realistic.

We tend to shy away from things which are frightening or unpleasant, as a species.

First of all, that says nothing about aliens, and in any case humans definitely have a spectrum of appreciation for the other, from xenophobes to xenophiles.  

Also, at the end of the first game the council agrees that the reapers are a threat, and seem ready to gear up for the war effort.  Somewhere in between they change their mind for no reason.  This is so egregious a plot hole that people have been coming up with theories like the council being indoctrinated to explain this.  

I wouldn't say that its a plot hole the council clearly felt there wasn't enough evidence to support the claims and like alexandus wrote "we tend to shy away from things which are frightening or unpleasant." This can be another reason the council changed its mind and now refuses to believe in the reaper threat. I think they are complete morons for ignoring their top specter again but there are reasons for not believing.

Modifié par SerenityN0w, 09 mars 2010 - 09:01 .

[SerenityN0w]

enormousmoonboots wrote...

SerenityN0w wrote...

enormousmoonboots wrote...

Nope. Idiots in the first game with an undercurrent of 'evil for the sake of evil' (what possible benefit is there to injecting humans with thresher maw blood? Or feeding a unit to them?), dirty manipulating liars in the second game.

Also, responsible for getting me Husk-rushed four times. That's unforgivable.

Your right about the thresher maw thing that was ****ed up and unnecessary but them bringing Shep back to life and saving the galaxy from the Collectors as well as actually doing something about the coming Reaper threat should earn them some trust. The Alliance on the other hand wants to just sit there and hope these problems fix themselves or just pretend they don't exist at all.

Are you seriously implying TIM wanting to build a human Reaper is a good thing? You really think that could possibly end well? (if you're a devotee of the God-Emperor, you need not answer this question)

Who said he wanted to build a human reaper for all we know he is just going to study their technology and implement it in the same way the turians did with the thanix cannons. Or get a better understanding of it to find a potential weak spot. Also from what we know about making reapers it would take millions maybe more human lives to make a human reaper. Someone who is trying to advance humanity would never sacrifice millions of human lives for one potential weapon when theres thousands possible more of the same thing coming our way.

Modifié par SerenityN0w, 09 mars 2010 - 09:13 .

[LeoInterVir]

I support Humanity and the great Terran Empire...

On the more serious note, I support humanity, galactic defence, galactic stability, and galactic peace.

I don't trust Cerberus in the long run but I like to have all the cards in place for the final battle, than not have an ace in the whole. I let TIM have his special base, since I can always take care of TIM when the bigger problem is over with.