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[Llandaryn]

Do you support Cerberus? Yes or No? Why?

No, they remind me too much of IRA, ETA, etc.

[Arhka]

I just can't trust TIM. Sure, he has resources, but he seems too conceited for me to take him on as an actual ally. I trust him as much or even less than the Shadow Broker. And I still think Kelly may turn on me in ME3. A psychologist on board seems she's TIM's eyes.

Modifié par Arhka, 09 mars 2010 - 09:42 .

[Aaren J]

mortons4ck wrote...

I work with Cerberus, I respect Cerberus, but I do not trust Cerberus.

Or their Sicilian messenger boy; Jonny Ola!....oh wait......

Agreed. Worked with them as long as their goals and mine were the same, ditched them afterwards. 

Modifié par Aaren J, 09 mars 2010 - 10:03 .

[FlintlockJazz]

Shandepared wrote...

Edit: As to the "genocide" of the Americas: no such thing took place in the United States. Interbreeding and then disease are primarily responsible for the disappearance of most native tribes; they were simply absorbed. Regardless, I do support the conquest of North America just as I support the repeated conquests of various parts of Europe that subdued countless cultures and eventually provided us with modern civilization.

First off, don't bull****.  The attempt at genocide on the native population did occur, in fact it was a very systematic and deliberate attempt, either you're very thick or you are just lying.  Second, the 'conquest' of North America nor of the 'countless cultures' was not a good thing, and does not prove that those events actually improved society at all, on the contrary the fall of Constantinople (a place of great learning and the largest library in the world) was a great loss to the advancement of Western society as a whole.  The Islamic countries used to be some of the most tolerant and learned countries in the world until 'conquest' turned them into what they are today.  So no, conquest is not a good thing, and your support of it shows your complete lack of knowledge and your ignorance (which is blatant from your genocide denials, gonna deny the holocaust next?) so please stop talking out your backside.

Modifié par FlintlockJazz, 09 mars 2010 - 10:37 .

[Zemore]

I prefer Fenrir as devil dogs go his one head owns all 3 of Cerbies

[Aaren J]

Shandepared wrote...

FlintlockJazz wrote...



First off, don't bull****.  The attempt at genocide on the native population did occur, in fact it was a very systematic and deliberate attempt, either you're very thick or you are just lying.

No, it didn't. I see I struck a nerve though. It must be frightening being forced to confront the realities of history against the Hollywood version.

FlintlockJazz wrote...

The Islamic countries used to be some of the most tolerant and learned countries in the world until 'conquest' turned them into what they are today.  So no, stop talking out your backside.

Indeed, they were very tolerant when they burned the Library of Alexandria to the ground. Truly, they've always been the noble defenders and uplifters of civilization. That's why they've been living in the dark ages for some 700 years.

I think somebody needs to go back to school. 

[FlintlockJazz]

Shandepared wrote...

FlintlockJazz wrote...



First off, don't bull****.  The attempt at genocide on the native population did occur, in fact it was a very systematic and deliberate attempt, either you're very thick or you are just lying.

No, it didn't. I see I struck a nerve though. It must be frightening being forced to confront the realities of history against the Hollywood version.

FlintlockJazz wrote...

The Islamic countries used to be some of the most tolerant and learned countries in the world until 'conquest' turned them into what they are today.  So no, stop talking out your backside.

Indeed, they were very tolerant when they burned the Library of Alexandria to the ground. Truly, they've always been the noble defenders and uplifters of civilization. That's why they've been living in the dark ages for some 700 years.

Cherry picking I see?  Instead of dealing with all the points you just take two out of context and leave the rest, completely ignoring my main point.  Nevermind, your bull**** only gets you so far mate (I don't base my facts on Hollywood, but on actually reading about things), you completely evaded the main argument so obviously you have nothing to refute me with, and your response proves that you have nothing worthwhile to discuss.  Keep up the trolling, because I'm not going to feed you anymore, have fun.

[RyrineaNara]

And Shandepred do you treat all Liberals with disrespect, because I consider myself a moderate, and I may disagree with what some right wingers have to say. But I still, don't treat them badly and call them stupid.



ON TOPIC: I still don't trust tim or Cerberus. For all the the things, they have have done in the game. Plus the fact that I romanced Kaidan, AND he might have been one of the kids in question that they study boticis on made me even angrier with them.

[Marilynn-22]

I support Cerberus, because the Illusive man has the right idea

[Terraneaux]

Shandepared has to be trolling. The odds of someone actually being that stupid and immoral simultaneously are astronomically low.

[Terraneaux]

Shandepared wrote...

Yes, I hate ignorant, short-sighted, self-loathing, seditious people.

If that's what you think of liberals, then you should probably go back to conservapedia, it's one of the few places on the internet where people like you are tolerated.

[Terraneaux]

Shandepared wrote...



I did
not evade anything. In the United States genocide was never perpetuated
on the Indian tribes. Many were killed in wars and a few massacres. The
forced removal of the Cherokee was a violation of American law. However
the fact is most Indian tribes interbred with white settlers and many
others died as a result of disease, the vast majority of infections not
intentional. Even in South America the vast majority of natives killed
died from disease as a result of contact with Eurpeans, not because of
systematic genocide. You claim to have read books but I doubt it.

This entire statement is wrong.  Bring me some facts that support it.  

[Bigdoser]

FlintlockJazz wrote...

Shandepared wrote...

Edit: As to the "genocide" of the Americas: no such thing took place in the United States. Interbreeding and then disease are primarily responsible for the disappearance of most native tribes; they were simply absorbed. Regardless, I do support the conquest of North America just as I support the repeated conquests of various parts of Europe that subdued countless cultures and eventually provided us with modern civilization.

First off, don't bull****.  The attempt at genocide on the native population did occur, in fact it was a very systematic and deliberate attempt, either you're very thick or you are just lying.  Second, the 'conquest' of North America nor of the 'countless cultures' was not a good thing, and does not prove that those events actually improved society at all, on the contrary the fall of Constantinople (a place of great learning and the largest library in the world) was a great loss to the advancement of Western society as a whole.  The Islamic countries used to be some of the most tolerant and learned countries in the world until 'conquest' turned them into what they are today.  So no, conquest is not a good thing, and your support of it shows your complete lack of knowledge and your ignorance (which is blatant from your genocide denials, gonna deny the holocaust next?) so please stop talking out your backside.

So true.

[ObserverStatus]

I support Cerberus, because the Alliance and the Council don't give two s***s about stopping the Reapers. If TIM makes himself Emperor of Outer Space, in the same fashion as Arcturus Mengsk from Starcraft, that would still be preferable to being liquefied by an industrial-sized toaster with a God complex.

[jklinders]

Terraneaux wrote...

Multifarious Algorithm wrote...

Your obsession that you should've somehow had a way to not work with Cerberus is well...obsessive. The way you played the game speaks directly to what a paragon Shepard would do in the situation, but I find the notion that you shouldn't work with them at all somewhat ridiculous. It's not like Shepard has a lot of other options - and certainly not the case that any other power would bring him back to life at the expense they did.

No, a Paragon Shep would have hijacked the shuttle out of the first station and head straight to council space to turn Miranda and Jacob in.  The REASON Shepard doesn't have that option is the same reason that the council has decided not to believe in the Reapers for no good reason - bad writing and railroading.

Shepard was out of action for 2 years and had no idea how the galaxy was set up. Thus he/she needed more information. What became clear to me through my playthroughs is that TIM worked very hard during the time Shep's lights were out isolating him/her from former allies.

I keep feeling drawn to TIM's comment that he had let loose carefully disguised rumors that Shep was alive and working for Cerberus. This comes out after Horizon. Ashley/Kaidan have already been dispatched to Horizon by the time Shep wakes up. Ashley/Kaidan are investigating possible Cerberus involvement in the abductions. TIM needed Shep's willing involvement. to get that he needed Shep to feel as if there was no where else to go. Call me crazy but it seems like TIM sicced the Alliance on himself as a way to make the Alliance not trust Shep.

Shepard had no choice, not until the normandy's crew, assault team and EDI were loyal to him.

[hawat333]

I do.

As long as they are attacking the Reapers and not someone else. As long as this statement is true, I commit my every single action in the support of Cerberus.

Still, I'm prepeared to kick the doors in when the this changes.

[RyrineaNara]

Terraneaux wrote...

Shandepared wrote...

Yes, I hate ignorant, short-sighted, self-loathing, seditious people.

If that's what you think of liberals, then you should probably go back to conservapedia, it's one of the few places on the internet where people like you are tolerated.

Yeap! Then I tell my mother you hate her because she suposedly a seditious. I gues she is, because she married a republcain.

[RyrineaNara]

Double post darn computres

Modifié par RyrineaNara, 10 mars 2010 - 12:39 .

[Goodwood]

I trust the Illusive Martin Sheen Man as far as I can throw him. Which, considering he's only ever seen as a hologram, means that I don't trust him at all...

Modifié par Goodwood, 10 mars 2010 - 12:43 .

[mortons4ck]

hawat333 wrote...

I do.
As long as they are attacking the Reapers and not someone else. As long as this statement is true, I commit my every single action in the support of Cerberus.
Still, I'm prepeared to kick the doors in when the this changes.

Lesser evils have always teamed up to fight the greater evils.

Just look at world war 2: US/ USSR teamed up to fight Germany/Japan

Each side cooperated with the other to take the hated enemy down, but would have turned against eachother once the greater threat is eliminated (like with US and USSR).

I will work with Cerberus, I don't have to trust them.

Modifié par mortons4ck, 10 mars 2010 - 12:44 .