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[Randy1012]

Pauravi wrote...

GenericPlayer2 wrote...

If you don't see your racial group in ME you should count your blessings. I'm Arab and I am stuck with Khalisah Al-Jilani and Zaeed to represent, and they both can be punched by Shep.

Oh man... sorry, but I had to LOL at that.
That's pretty harsh, though, hehe.  At least it was a memorable part..?

That said.... I'm Mexican, and I don't honestly even remember whether there were any "Sanchez"'s or "Garcia"'s or any other hispanic names floating around.  That is, any other than Vido Santiago, the murderous (and possibly dead) merc leader who only shows up in DLC.

Ah well, whatever.  Nothing to get sensitive over.

Ashley has been described as being of partial Latin descent.

Must be on her mother's side.

[Chuvvy]

Darkstar87uk wrote...

I think Samesh Bhatia is indian asian.. if that counts.


Sulu for Me3!

[Bann Duncan]

monkeycamoran wrote...

Bann Duncan wrote...
Yeah because all Southeast Asians are Filipino... Give me a break. I grew up in Southeast Asia and there are people of all sorts of names - including names that don't seem too far from Kahoku.

Nguyen is a Vietnamese name, buddy. <_<

And the guy's has a relatively heavy build. We're not a bulky people. Probably you are, but I don't care.

If you can give me an Asian guy who's named is Kahoku, fine by me. But it's pretty easy to see that people's first thoughts that Kahoku is Asian just because it sounds Japanese. The first I thought was Hawaiian (unless he's half-Japanese or Ilocano or some **** like that).

I know Nguyen is a Vietnamese name - I was referring to Macapagal, which is the name of a former Filipino president. As for the build, that is irrelevant as all male humans in ME have the same shape.

Kahoku does sound Japanese, I agree. But I've met a fair few people of some degree of Japanese descent in SE Asia in my time.

[Tlazolteotl]

so ... the op wants emily wong for ME3?

Hmm .. actually not a bad idea, 'cos having the press along is like, "this is a reaper, yo."

[Sigma Tauri]

Modifié par monkeycamoran, 03 mars 2011 - 07:34 .

[luk3us]

There are no Asians in the future, just like there are no fat people.

[GenericPlayer2]

luk3us wrote...

There are no Asians in the future, just like there are no fat people.

Haven't played ME1 in ages, but that dude Samesh, he was chubby iirc.

[Tlazolteotl]

luk3us wrote...

There are no Asians in the future, just like there are no fat people.

That's a lie. The fat people are just not allowed to leave Earth.

[Louis deGuerre]

Mass Effect. Get it



I feel Dutch are underrepresented in the game. You loved us in District 9 ! We deserve a De Vries in the game !

[Sigma Tauri]

Modifié par monkeycamoran, 03 mars 2011 - 07:34 .

[rumblefv]

Randy1083 wrote...

Pauravi wrote...

GenericPlayer2 wrote...

If you don't see your racial group in ME you should count your blessings. I'm Arab and I am stuck with Khalisah Al-Jilani and Zaeed to represent, and they both can be punched by Shep.

Oh man... sorry, but I had to LOL at that.
That's pretty harsh, though, hehe.  At least it was a memorable part..?

That said.... I'm Mexican, and I don't honestly even remember whether there were any "Sanchez"'s or "Garcia"'s or any other hispanic names floating around.  That is, any other than Vido Santiago, the murderous (and possibly dead) merc leader who only shows up in DLC.

Ah well, whatever.  Nothing to get sensitive over.

Ashley has been described as being of partial Latin descent.

So that's where she got her fine booty from.

[GenericPlayer2]

Pauravi wrote...

GenericPlayer2 wrote...

If you don't see your racial group in ME you should count your blessings. I'm Arab and I am stuck with Khalisah Al-Jilani and Zaeed to represent, and they both can be punched by Shep.

Oh man... sorry, but I had to LOL at that.
That's pretty harsh, though, hehe.  At least it was a memorable part..?

That said.... I'm Mexican, and I don't honestly even remember whether there were any "Sanchez"'s or "Garcia"'s or any other hispanic names floating around.  That is, any other than Vido Santiago, the murderous (and possibly dead) merc leader who only shows up in DLC.

Ah well, whatever.  Nothing to get sensitive over.

Oh I wasn't really complaining, just pointing out you should be careful what you wish for 

If anything I would like to see more punchable Salarians/Quarians in ME3 as opposed to more humans.

[DuffyMJ]

monkeycamoran wrote...

sedrikhcain wrote...
Well, no, you keep mentioning that you're Southeast Asian or East Asian but hadn't said that Asians from other parts of Asia didn't count in your tally.
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Is it necessary to even say other parts of Asia? This thread practically implies Asians from the Orient. If this thread explicitly said every ethnic group in Asia, people would be listing Samesh Bhatia, Khalisah Al-Jilani, David Al-Talaqani, and Zaeed Massani also. And you have an argument that Kahoku could be from other parts of Asia, fine by me.

Now, I'm just tired of this. The guy's an Alliance officer foremost, and shows no peculiar behavior or speech to indicate culture. He could've born on Elysium for all I care. It's just Bioware's way of saying the human universe is more cosmopolitan now than ever.

The Orient?  The Orient is Asia Minor dude as in like Turkey, Armenia, etc... hence 'Orient Express' being in eastern Europe

[Sigma Tauri]

Modifié par monkeycamoran, 03 mars 2011 - 07:34 .

[DuffyMJ]

monkeycamoran wrote...

DuffyMJ wrote...
The Orient?  The Orient is Asia Minor dude as in like Turkey, Armenia, etc... hence 'Orient Express' being in eastern Europe

Dude, you're embarrasing yourself.

Orient means "east' in Latin, referring to the rising sun. When people refer to Orientals, they refer to the East Asians. What you're referring to is the Near East. East Asians are from the Far East.

I'm embarassing myself?

Hysterically, if you look up what you refer to as "the near east" (which I'm pretty sure is normally called the middle east and hasn't been called 'near east' in regular usage for several decades...) you will find this:

http://www.britannic...07449/Near-East

usually the lands around the eastern shores of the Mediterranean Sea, including northeastern Africa, southwestern Asia, and, occasionally, theBalkan Peninsula. The term Near East was used by the first modern Western geographers to refer to the nearer part of the Orient, a region roughly coextensive with the Ottoman Empire. Since World War II, the name has been largely supplanted by Middle East, though frequently they are used interchangeably.

The Ottoman Empire, by the way was a "Former empire centred in Anatolia."  And Anatolia, by the way, is an archaic term for what is commonly known as Asia Minor today -- in other words, exactly what I said earlier...

Thanks for helping my argument. 

Modifié par DuffyMJ, 10 mars 2010 - 03:13 .

[Sigma Tauri]

Modifié par monkeycamoran, 03 mars 2011 - 07:35 .

[Gabey5]

Tlazolteotl wrote...

luk3us wrote...

There are no Asians in the future, just like there are no fat people.

That's a lie. The fat people are just not allowed to leave Earth.

no everyone has been genetic engineered for years...so no fat people, no people with glasses etc

[Digital Supremacy]

Didn't you know? Asians were all turned into computer code, creating the system that we know as AI. that's not artificial intelligence, that's Asian Intelligence!

Or We just released an Asian genophage upon them that was covered up by the Government?

Modifié par Digital Supremacy, 10 mars 2010 - 03:37 .

[Amethyst Deceiver]

monkeycamoran wrote...

You want to assert the Orient officially as the Near East including the Ottoman Empire.

he cant because it isnt true. in the same article he linked (and conveniently left out in his quote) it says this:

The term Near East was used by the first modern Western geographers to refer to the nearer part of the Orient


"nearer part of the Orient" suggests that "the orient" is farther east.


for what its worth theres also this:

The Orient is a term which means "the East". It is a traditional designation for anything belonging to the Orient or Far East. In English it is a metonym describing Eastern Asia. It was also used to indicate the eastern direction in historical astronomy as the adjective Oriental.

Modifié par Amethyst Deceiver, 10 mars 2010 - 03:36 .

[DuffyMJ]

Amethyst Deceiver wrote...

monkeycamoran wrote...

You want to assert the Orient officially as the Near East including the Ottoman Empire.

he cant because it isnt true. in the same article he linked (and conveniently left out in his quote) it says this:

The term Near East was used by the first modern Western geographers to refer to the nearer part of the Orient


"nearer part of the Orient" suggests that "the orient" is farther east.


for what its worth theres also this:

The Orient is a term which means "the East". It is a traditional designation for anything belonging to the Orient or Far East. In English it is a metonym describing Eastern Asia. It was also used to indicate the eastern direction in historical astronomy as the adjective Oriental.

Please show me where I "conveniently" left out the quote "The term Near East was used by the first modern Western geographers to refer to the nearer part of the Orient..."  I may be partly color blind, but I'm pretty sure my eyes see -- looking at my post above -- that not only did I not "leave out" that part, but I in fact HIGHLIGHTED IT with bold face print!! And -- also conveniently for me -- it seems that it is you who are manipulating the textual facts by omitting the entirety of that sentence, which in fact reads as follows:

"The term Near East was used by the first modern Western geographers to refer to the nearer part of the Orient, a region roughly coextensive with the Ottoman Empire."

Perhaps you should look up the definition of coextensive.  Actually, on second-thought, I should hold your hand through that as well.  It is: "equal or coincident in space, time, or scope."  In what universe does such a sentence -- as you put it -- "suggest" that there is further land eastward encompassing "the orient"?

Seriously, go back to grammar school, ****g idiots...

[DuffyMJ]

monkeycamoran wrote...

DuffyMJ wrote...

monkeycamoran wrote...

DuffyMJ wrote...
The Orient?  The Orient is Asia Minor dude as in like Turkey, Armenia, etc... hence 'Orient Express' being in eastern Europe

Dude, you're embarrasing yourself.

Orient means "east' in Latin, referring to the rising sun. When people refer to Orientals, they refer to the East Asians. What you're referring to is the Near East. East Asians are from the Far East.

I'm embarassing myself?

Hysterically, if you look up what you refer to as "the near east" (which I'm pretty sure is normally called the middle east and hasn't been called 'near east' in regular usage for several decades...) you will find this:

http://www.britannic...07449/Near-East

usually the lands around the eastern shores of the Mediterranean Sea, including northeastern Africa, southwestern Asia, and, occasionally, theBalkan Peninsula. The term Near East was used by the first modern Western geographers to refer to the nearer part of the Orient, a region roughly coextensive with the Ottoman Empire. Since World War II, the name has been largely supplanted by Middle East, though frequently they are used interchangeably.

The Ottoman Empire, by the way was a "Former empire centred in Anatolia."  And Anatolia, by the way, is an archaic term for what is commonly known as Asia Minor today -- in other words, exactly what I said earlier...

Thanks for helping my argument. 

You don't have much of an argument. Just being pedantic, actually. You want to assert the Orient officially as the Near East including the Ottoman Empire. I'm referring to the more general usage of the Orient, which belongs to the Latin word, oriens, the rising sun as opposed to occidens, the setting sun. Otherwise, you'll be confused when Spanish people refer to a place as "oriental o occidental" When people used Orientals in colloquial usage, they don't refer to Turkish or Armenians. They mean East Asians, though somehow people don't use it openly because it took on an insulting speech.

So not only are you wrong, but you are also clinging to the fact that the adjective is a racial slur used by some to ignorantly refer to eastern peoples'  as "orientals" (likely by ignorant racists who also had little basic knowledge of geography).

It's also hysterical that you're clinging to the etymology of the word itself to "prove" your point.  I hate to break it to you, but the Roman Empire (where Latin was the lingua franca) considered Constantinople the capitol of "the east" as they were ignorant of Han China, Japan, and what you irrationally refer to as "the orient".  The Roman/Latin orient was Asia Minor.  Period.  End of story.  Thank you, come again.

[Halmiriliath]

DuffyMJ wrote...

So not only are you wrong, but you are also clinging to the fact that the adjective is a racial slur used by some to ignorantly refer to eastern peoples'  as "orientals" (likely by ignorant racists who also had little basic knowledge of geography).

It's also hysterical that you're clinging to the etymology of the word itself to "prove" your point.  I hate to break it to you, but the Roman Empire (where Latin was the lingua franca) considered Constantinople the capitol of "the east" as they were ignorant of Han China, Japan, and what you irrationally refer to as "the orient".  The Roman/Latin orient was Asia Minor.  Period.  End of story.  Thank you, come again.

This is a subjective argument. The Oxford Dictionary of English defines the 'orient'  as:

1. ( the Orient ) (literary) the countries of the East, especially east Asia.
2. [mass noun] the special lustre of a pearl of the finest quality (with reference to fine pearls from the East).

Note, 'especially' denotes its subjectivity.

And just another quick point, Latin was not just the lingua franca of the Roman Empire, but of diplomacy  and intellectual and religious works until well into the 'modern' period in Europe, when numerous contacts - and in some cases, colonies - existed in China, Japan and other parts of the Far East.

Sorry for going off topic, but I get pedantic when it comes to history and language. 

Modifié par Halmiriliath, 10 mars 2010 - 08:30 .