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[_000Darkstar]

PiMD360 wrote...

Again, just because most of you are fanboys and have noting better to do than sit on Bioware's forums all day and pick peoples posts apart doesn't make you any authority on how I want to spend my money and why I feel I am being robbed. Just because you're not a fan of other game companies games or wouldn't spend money on other games expansions, episodes, or dlc, whatever you want to call it doesn't give you right to sit there and call people trolls and ridicule. You're as bad as the next person who thinks it is ok to bend over and take if from Bioware.  As soon as one company gets away charging $40 for this, every other company out there will get in line to charge way too much for thier crappy DLC as well.  I have my opinions, you have yours, this thread was created to share my outrage at the cost of the dlc. So if it bothers you or you don't have anything constructive to say, bugger off, and leave this post to people who want to call BS.

Bioware, please stop putting a gun to mine and PiMD360's heads and forcing us to buy your amazing games. Even thought I get WAY more than what I pay for, my wallet can't handle it anymore. So please, put the gun away.

Also:
This is an OUTRAGE!!! *clenches fist*

[Bann Duncan]

PiMD360 wrote...

Maviarab wrote...

Shivering Isles was not DLC...it was an expansion.

30+hours for a hell of a lot cheaper, oh and it was DLC since you could download the content.  Not to mention I could travel in and out of the area seamlessly while playing the main story.  Not some after the fact Expansion BS that won't allow me to bring items from the Expansion into my regular game...  BS, BS, BS.

If you're going to call DLC  by technicality on Awakening and Shivering Isles simply because they are downloadable - let me point out that, by your definition, Origins, ME, ME2 and Oblivion itself are all DLC because I bought all of them through a direct download service.

[Lady Jess]

Bann Duncan wrote...

PiMD360 wrote...

Maviarab wrote...

Shivering Isles was not DLC...it was an expansion.

30+hours for a hell of a lot cheaper, oh and it was DLC since you could download the content.  Not to mention I could travel in and out of the area seamlessly while playing the main story.  Not some after the fact Expansion BS that won't allow me to bring items from the Expansion into my regular game...  BS, BS, BS.

If you're going to call DLC  by technicality on Awakening and Shivering Isles simply because they are downloadable - let me point out that, by your definition, Origins, ME, ME2 and Oblivion itself are all DLC because I bought all of them through a direct download service.

don't forget that makes World of Warcraft's Burning Crusade+Wrath of the LIch King all DLC too, that sell for $40 each.

[Dichotomize]

I absolutely agree that $40 ($45 in Canada) is ridiculous for an expansion. When Awakening was announced, the only that gave me grounds for pause was the price point. Considering we paid $69.99 (CDN) for the full 40+ experience, plus X number of dollars for DLC, $45 just seems like a bit much to ask for, in my opinion. I think an MSRP of $30 would be a lot more reasonable, but that said, I'm itching for more Dragon Age: Origins content, so I will be purchasing Awakening on release date. I can justify the purchase to myself when I compare it to other recent game purchases. I'm getting 20 more hours of Dragon Age for $45, as opposed to say, Batman: Arkham Asylum which cost me $60 last year for a whopping 8 hours of gameplay.



As for the issue of all the Mass Effect DLC; all things considered, we're getting more Dragon Age content than Mass Effect content. For the most part, with the exception of Zaeed (whom I never use, anyway) and possibly the upcoming Firewalker DLC, most of the free content has been pretty incidental.

[_000Darkstar]

Eli-da-Mage wrote...

_000Darkstar wrote...

PiMD360 wrote...

Again, just because most of you are fanboys and have noting better to do than sit on Bioware's forums all day and pick peoples posts apart doesn't make you any authority on how I want to spend my money and why I feel I am being robbed. Just because you're not a fan of other game companies games or wouldn't spend money on other games expansions, episodes, or dlc, whatever you want to call it doesn't give you right to sit there and call people trolls and ridicule. You're as bad as the next person who thinks it is ok to bend over and take if from Bioware. outrage at the cost of the dlc. So if it bothers you or you don't have anything constructive to say, bugger off, and leave this post to people who want to call BS.

Bioware, please stop putting a gun to mine and PiMD360's heads and forcing us to buy your amazing games. Even thought I get WAY more than what I pay for, my wallet can't handle it anymore. So please, put the gun away.

Also:
This is an OUTRAGE!!! *clenches fist*

Ok so you got one supporter but he isnt trolling hes being nice

My post was meant to be ironic. I am in no way supporting this misguided troll.

Modifié par _000Darkstar, 09 mars 2010 - 08:36 .

[Bryy_Miller]

[quote]Viglin wrote...

[quote]PiMD360 wrote...

[quote]Maviarab wrote...

Ok first.

How is DA better than ME2? I notice you dont have ME2 registered, so assume you dont own it, s do not make comparisons you cannot theorise on correctly. Also, they are totally different games, so comparing is pointless.
Secondly, they are made by different teams within Bioware, so again, free dlc/paid dlc is another non argument.
Thirdly, Do not assume all pc users hack/pirate stuff. We don't. And in actuality (thouygh its never heard because the publishers do not want to believe it) it is easier to copy/hack a console game than it is a pc game...and its more widespread than it is on the pc.
Fourth, Value in relation to content is another non argument. Do you never buy a pizza because for your 10 bucks it only lasts you 15 mins? Get real and grow up.

And lastly, your a troll.[/quote]

You sir can f*** yourself.  I am not a troll and have been on this community site for quite sometime.  If I wish to enact my freedom of speach, I will.  I also own ME2 and think compared to ME1 and DAO it sucks by comparison.  The story isn't even that captivating compared to DA:O.  Secondly I wouldn't waste my money on a pizza because I cook my own food.  $40 for this DLC is a awful lot, when you can buy a new game that will hold your time much longer for that price or less.

[/quote]

Why is this thread still open?

Modifié par Bryy_Miller, 09 mars 2010 - 08:37 .

[SinnerAngel]

buy it, don't buy, Idc

[Dichotomize]

Eli-da-Mage wrote...

SinnerAngel wrote...


buy it, don't buy, Idc

Feeding Trolls is fun. The way they argue back then dissapear and magically stop posting when they are beaten at the argument by everyone.

I'm not convinced the guy was "beaten" by anyone. None of you changed his mind, and his point about the expansion being overpriced is valid.

[MagicalSarai]

For all of the extra content, spells, abilities, specializations... 15 hours of gameplay, the ability to upload an origins character, continued storyline... new armor, new weapons, new enemy types... I think this isn't too bad of an asking price. I definitely don't mind. Would I like it to be cheaper? Yes, I'd like all games to be cheaper, but I'm not going to really mind paying 40 bucks. Bioware knows this, hence the reason I just say: HURRY UP MARCH 16!



Yay! for FFXIII in the meantime.

[Kohaku]

He wasn't beaten. My issue is not with him thinking the price is too high but getting upset because people don't agree.

[Crazy_Cat_Lady]

If I get 20 hours of new content $40 is reasonable. It took me 30 hours to get through my first play through in DA:O, which was a $60 game. So Awakening has 2/3 of the content for 2/3 of the price. Perfectly proportional in my view.

[Kimarous]

[durasteel]

Pubknight wrote...

Maviarab wrote...

 And in actuality (thouygh its never heard because the publishers do not want to believe it) it is easier to copy/hack a console game than it is a pc game...and its more widespread than it is on the pc.

Yeah... going to have to challenge that claim... especially the 'widespread' part.
Have any kind of credible source for that?

If anecdotal evidence is acceptable to you, then I can offer some.  I don't have a console myself, but my nephew has an XBox 360 - I don't know if it is modded at all.  He has, so far as I am aware, never acually purchased a game for it.  He downloads disk images that he burns to DVD, and has a library of games filling shelves and overflowing storage boxes.

He is a "member" of some pirate web site or other, part of a large community of game pirates.  He can pirate a console game in the time it takes me to purchase and install a game for the PC.  I'm not condoning his behavior, but it is obviously really easy for him to do it.

Also, there is a guy who sells bootleg disks of movies and games out of the trunk of his car in front of my neighborhood corner store - I don't know if they work or not, of if they have some kind of PS3 virus, but they're cheap and he promotes current titles.

Console games are only ever going to be as difficult to pirate as the copy protection on the disks is to crack.  It seems like any time the industry comes out with new copy protection, the pirates have it cracked in a few days.

[5Warlocks]

I thought Dragon Age was the best overall game I had played since BG2, and I enjoyed ME2 a little bit more. ;x

Modifié par 5Warlocks, 09 mars 2010 - 09:04 .

[Dichotomize]

Eli-da-Mage wrote...

He hasnt posted in ages he is beaten. Slaying forum trolls is easy. Whether or not he will return is another question.
I dont think it was overpriced and Kerridan Kalba is right he wanted us all to agree and we said no your wrong, he got upset and started swearing at us all. Hes a troll, indefinately.

Whether Awakening is overpriced or not is purely subjective. It may not seem overpriced to you, but it clearly does for the OP. Franklyn it's overpriced to me as well, but not so grossly so that it becomes a deal breaker for me. Really no one here is right or wrong on the matter. Granted the OP is more hostile than he really should be, but it's not like people aren't throwing hostility at him as well.

Also I'm not entirely sure you know what "indefinitely" means.

[Valmy]

PiMD360 wrote...

Your cool spending $40 f****** dollars on DLC? It is officially the most expensive DLC today, and f-ing rediculous. I don't have $40 f***** dollars for this s***. That was a stupid move on their part. Lets see how well it sells compared to the rest of their precious DLC.

Yeah a new gun is totally comparable to an entire 20 hour+ expansion pack with a new party.

[Feraele]

_000Darkstar wrote...

PiMD360 wrote...

Again, just because most of you are fanboys and have noting better to do than sit on Bioware's forums all day and pick peoples posts apart doesn't make you any authority on how I want to spend my money and why I feel I am being robbed. Just because you're not a fan of other game companies games or wouldn't spend money on other games expansions, episodes, or dlc, whatever you want to call it doesn't give you right to sit there and call people trolls and ridicule. You're as bad as the next person who thinks it is ok to bend over and take if from Bioware.  As soon as one company gets away charging $40 for this, every other company out there will get in line to charge way too much for thier crappy DLC as well.  I have my opinions, you have yours, this thread was created to share my outrage at the cost of the dlc. So if it bothers you or you don't have anything constructive to say, bugger off, and leave this post to people who want to call BS.

Bioware, please stop putting a gun to mine and PiMD360's heads and forcing us to buy your amazing games. Even thought I get WAY more than what I pay for, my wallet can't handle it anymore. So please, put the gun away.

Also:
This is an OUTRAGE!!! *clenches fist*

Yeah dang it..quit twisting my rubber arm to buy more dlcs and expansions...*falls over laughing*

[Fishy]

Dichotomize wrote...

I absolutely agree that $40 ($45 in Canada) is ridiculous for an expansion. When Awakening was announced, the only that gave me grounds for pause was the price point. Considering we paid $69.99 (CDN) for the full 40+ experience, plus X number of dollars for DLC, $45 just seems like a bit much to ask for, in my opinion. I think an MSRP of $30 would be a lot more reasonable, but that said, I'm itching for more Dragon Age: Origins content, so I will be purchasing Awakening on release date. I can justify the purchase to myself when I compare it to other recent game purchases. I'm getting 20 more hours of Dragon Age for $45, as opposed to say, Batman: Arkham Asylum which cost me $60 last year for a whopping 8 hours of gameplay.

As for the issue of all the Mass Effect DLC; all things considered, we're getting more Dragon Age content than Mass Effect content. For the most part, with the exception of Zaeed (whom I never use, anyway) and possibly the upcoming Firewalker DLC, most of the free content has been pretty incidental.

Hmm
Now now now...

I purchased god of war 3 for a whooping  70.00 and the game's 13 hours long.But let me tell you that i expect  those 13 hours to be the most bad ass , immersive , freak , massive and orgasmic crap i will  play for a long time.

So what you're saying that 20 hours of gameplay = the mean to purchase a video game for 40.00 bucks?
It's bioware and i love the game so much it's dangerous so yes i will buy it.But the longevity of a game don't mean everything.

I rather watch a 1:30 hours movie that i like for 20.00 bucks .. Than a boring fest of 10 hours for 5.00 $
Bioware expansion might not be very long .. But most of their expansion always been very well done and worth the price tag.

Has for DLC .. you can purchase new skin model for 19.99 (SFIV) .. Now that a DLC ... That what i would call stealing people who have too much money .

DA:O it's one if not my favorite game right now.But there's a lot of useless stuff that increase the lenght of the game.

Modifié par Suprez30, 09 mars 2010 - 09:18 .

[Dichotomize]

durasteel wrote...
If anecdotal evidence is acceptable to you, then I can offer some.  I don't have a console myself, but my nephew has an XBox 360 - I don't know if it is modded at all.  He has, so far as I am aware, never acually purchased a game for it.  He downloads disk images that he burns to DVD, and has a library of games filling shelves and overflowing storage boxes.

He is a "member" of some pirate web site or other, part of a large community of game pirates.  He can pirate a console game in the time it takes me to purchase and install a game for the PC.  I'm not condoning his behavior, but it is obviously really easy for him to do it.

Also, there is a guy who sells bootleg disks of movies and games out of the trunk of his car in front of my neighborhood corner store - I don't know if they work or not, of if they have some kind of PS3 virus, but they're cheap and he promotes current titles.

Console games are only ever going to be as difficult to pirate as the copy protection on the disks is to crack.  It seems like any time the industry comes out with new copy protection, the pirates have it cracked in a few days.

If your nephew is playing pirated games on his Xbox 360 then yes, it is most definitely modded. But just because you know someone who seems to be knee-deep in console piracy, doesn't mean it's "widespread" or occurs moreso than PC piracy. Generally console piracy is a pain in the ass, since you have to do some fairly significant hardware modification (save for the Dreamcast, which is what killed it) to your game console to achieve it. Then there's also the fact that your console (these days) will eventually get caught on Xbox LIVE/PSN/Whatever, and be permanently banned.

On the PC though, piracy is a matter of going to a bittorrent site and downloading the (probably already cracked) game. No hardware modding, no banning from gaming networks, nothing. The ease and frequency of PC game piracy is the reason for much of the ridiculous DRM measures some publishers (like Ubisoft) are taking. It's also one of the reasons PC game sales, and thus PC game development, are on a serious decline.

[Dichotomize]

Suprez30 wrote...
So what you're saying that 20 hours of gameplay = the mean to purchase a video game for 40.00 bucks?
It's bioware and i love the game so much it's dangerous so yes i will buy it.But the longevity of a game don't mean everything.

Oh absolutely, longevity isn't everything in a video game. But for a cash-strapped Blockbuster employee like myself, longevity goes a long way in helping me decide whether to shell out precious dollars to buy a game, or wait two months after the street date and simply rent it for free.

[joey_mork84]

PiMD360 wrote...

Again, just because most of you are fanboys and have noting better to do than sit on Bioware's forums all day and pick peoples posts apart doesn't make you any authority on how I want to spend my money and why I feel I am being robbed.

Being robbed is against your own will. Buying a DLC (reguardless of the price) is COMPLETELY OPTIONAL. I'm not a "fanboy" but I have to say, I pretty much agree with everyone on this issue.

To answer your title, I do call BS on this topic, as well as the hundreds of others just like it. If you don't want to pay the amount offered for content, DLC or otherwise, at the time of release, then wait for it to go down. If you still aren't happy with that price, then simply don't buy it. Many others on this thread have said it before but it obviously hasn't sunk in, yet.

P.S. Throwing insults and telling ppl to stick things in obscene places isn't going to help anything, ever.

I'm surprised the Mods haven't come to put a stop to these topics because they always end up just like this one.