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[yoshibb]

Dragon Age's romance was WAY better. We had a ton of dialogue conversations, a general feeling of a growing relationship, and even in the end, it felt like who we romanced effected the choices we made.



Mass Effect 2 was just two conversations at most, then 'Oh, well, I guess I love you now." Then let's have sex before the final mission (taken from ME before Ilos) and that's it. Even ME had that emotional scene before where the LI tries to talk you down and then the almost kiss. I didn't feel connected to those characters at all. I might have if the dialogue wasn't so awful, but that part of the game felt really weak.

[Sesshomaru47]

DA. Alistair always wanted to talk or something. No stinking calibrations and more than two conversations. But you can't really compare them.

[kraidy1117]

yoshibb wrote...

Dragon Age's romance was WAY better. We had a ton of dialogue conversations, a general feeling of a growing relationship, and even in the end, it felt like who we romanced effected the choices we made.

Mass Effect 2 was just two conversations at most, then 'Oh, well, I guess I love you now." Then let's have sex before the final mission (taken from ME before Ilos) and that's it. Even ME had that emotional scene before where the LI tries to talk you down and then the almost kiss. I didn't feel connected to those characters at all. I might have if the dialogue wasn't so awful, but that part of the game felt really weak.

Wrong, Miri was not two then sex. It was five and only the last two conversations was when she slipped her feelings for you. I love how people say Miri is only about sex because of her sex scene but if you did her romance you would know it's not. Also ME was worse, Liara wanted to screw you right away but wanted to waittill after the battle, Ashley/Kaidan start flirting with you after Edan prime. Ya thats great build-up >_> go back to the DAO boards.

[DarthCaine]

The worst thing about DAO's romances was the approval system, since I did every dialogue options in one sitting and never spoke to my LI again except for their quest (I romanced Morrigan, then dumped her for Leliana). They had absolutely no build up for me since I got their approval very fast and did all dialogue in one sitting.

The good thing about ME2's romances was that they were gradual

Though I still say ME2's LIs==DAO's LIs>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ME1's LIs

Modifié par DarthCaine, 09 mars 2010 - 08:50 .

[kraidy1117]

DarthCaine wrote...

The worst thing about DAO's romances, was the approval system, since I did every dialogue options in one sitting and never spoke to my LI again except for their quest (I romanced Morrigan, then dumped her for Leliana). They had absolutely no build up for me since I got their approval very fast and did all dialogue in one sitting.

The good thing about ME2's romances was that they were gradual

Though I still say ME2's LIs==DAO's LIs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
ME1's LIs

Cains right, you can have sex with Morrigan first time you get to camp. Thats not realy good build-up.....

[brain_damage]

The Dragon Age characters are better fleshed out and the romance has more depth. The only characters in ME and ME2 that are on par with the DA ones in terms of depth are Jack and maybe Ashley.  Oh, and the ME romances have almost no build-up.

Modifié par brain_damage, 09 mars 2010 - 08:54 .

[Barquiel]

Morrigans romance subplot doesn't end after you sleep with her.

[kraidy1117]

Barquiel wrote...

Morrigans romance subplot doesn't end after you sleep with her.

Not the point, theres no build-up until after you have sex. Even then it only happens after you deal with her mother. Sorry but while they might have been fleshed out and longer, the build-up was very weak in DAO.

[Occams Razor 17]

Barquiel wrote...

Morrigans romance subplot doesn't end after you sleep with her.

Yeah, it doesn't really begin until after you sleep with her.

[kraidy1117]

brain_damage wrote...

The Dragon Age characters are better fleshed out and the romance has more depth. The only romances in ME and ME2 that are on par with the DA ones in terms of quality are Jack's and maybe Ashley's.

Sorry but if you think Ashley is more fleshed out then Thane, Miri or Tali then you realy need to get help.

[WilliamShatner]

ME1 > DA:O > ME2.

[Ray Joel Oh]

WilliamShatner wrote...

ME1 > DA:O > ME2.

Now you're really talking crazy.

[Blansten]

Just my opinion but, DAO > ME1 > ME2



The best ME2 romance was Jack she was the only one that was on par with ME1 for me.

[kraidy1117]

justinnstuff wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

Morrigans romance subplot doesn't end after you sleep with her.

Well, that alone is one step above the ME relationships. After you hop in the sack, that's the end of it.

No it's not..... Casey has said your LI will play a big part in ME3. Do people even listen to interviews anymore.....

[KillaKow]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Wrong, Miri was not two then sex. It was five and only the last two conversations was when she slipped her feelings for you. I love how people say Miri is only about sex because of her sex scene but if you did her romance you would know it's not. Also ME was worse, Liara wanted to screw you right away but wanted to waittill after the battle, Ashley/Kaidan start flirting with you after Edan prime. Ya thats great build-up >_> go back to the DAO boards.

I think you have Liara and Miranda's names reversed in that post. And you may want to go back and replay ME, because that is not how the Ashley/Kaidan romance works at all.  (They only start flirting with you one mission after Eden Prime:whistle:)

Defending the LI of your choice up to a point is understandable, but eventually you're going to have to accept that other people have other opinions, and not everyone thinks Miranda is the best character ever.

Modifié par KillaKow, 09 mars 2010 - 08:59 .

[Ray Joel Oh]

kraidy1117 wrote...

justinnstuff wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

Morrigans romance subplot doesn't end after you sleep with her.

Well, that alone is one step above the ME relationships. After you hop in the sack, that's the end of it.

No it's not..... Casey has said your LI will play a big part in ME3. Do people even listen to interviews anymore.....

Where did you read this?  Link?

[yoshibb]

kraidy1117 wrote...

yoshibb wrote...

Dragon Age's romance was WAY better. We had a ton of dialogue conversations, a general feeling of a growing relationship, and even in the end, it felt like who we romanced effected the choices we made.

Mass Effect 2 was just two conversations at most, then 'Oh, well, I guess I love you now." Then let's have sex before the final mission (taken from ME before Ilos) and that's it. Even ME had that emotional scene before where the LI tries to talk you down and then the almost kiss. I didn't feel connected to those characters at all. I might have if the dialogue wasn't so awful, but that part of the game felt really weak.

Wrong, Miri was not two then sex. It was five and only the last two conversations was when she slipped her feelings for you. I love how people say Miri is only about sex because of her sex scene but if you did her romance you would know it's not. Also ME was worse, Liara wanted to screw you right away but wanted to waittill after the battle, Ashley/Kaidan start flirting with you after Edan prime. Ya thats great build-up >_> go back to the DAO boards.

So two conversations based on your feelings right? And three that were background conversations. I romanced Alistair in DA and got over ten conversations that I can think of from flirting all the way up to the sex scene. Then there were three instances (the rose, the kiss, sex scene) that took place as the romance went on. Also, not to mention the scenes at the end, where it's possible for one of us to die, the ritual with morrigan, him being king or not all relating back to the romance. Not to mention the dialogue that goes on between your other companions about your romance.

Specific romance dialogue in ME2 is mostly two conversations and sex before the final mission. You seem to think I'm insulting Miranda as a character. Her character was fine, the problem is the system. The reason people think she's all about sex is because you don't have enough dialogue before it goes straight into something serious. What if on the loyalty mission there was different dialogue if you were in a relationship? What if at the end you specifically saved Miranda instead of it just being random?  

And you'll note I said 'even' as in the ME system wasn't great either. However, Dragon Age's system was really good with pretty interesting characters and if we are comparing the two, Mass Effect 2 just doesn't come close. 

[DarthCaine]

kraidy1117 wrote...

No it's not..... Casey has said your LI will play a big part in ME3. Do people even listen to interviews anymore.....

That's exactly what they said about ME1's LIs in ME2

Modifié par DarthCaine, 09 mars 2010 - 09:00 .

[Bartlebyfinch]

Barquiel wrote...

Morrigans romance subplot doesn't end after you sleep with her.

Indeed.  It really hasn't even gotten good at that point.   You can get sex from Morrigan very early in the game, (in fact, that's the only time you can get it since she won't sleep with you if she's in love with you) but your relationship with her continues to evolve until the very end of the game.  

With the possible exception of Zevran, who is mostly just a fling, DAO's romances are much much better than ME's.  The romances impact the story, they are noticed and commented on by the other characters, and they are much more involved. 

And they are more accomodating for sexual diversity.

[ian528]

Ahem.... Tali as LI in ME2 had the best overall because the conversation spans so much more then any other single character. So for me Tali >DA:O>ME1>ME2

[Haasth]

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

I like the Mass Effect characters and setting better but I think the length and depth of the romances in Dragon Age was the best I've seen in a game.

I more or less agree with this statement. 
The Mass Effect characters have my interest more, but it was better in Dragon Age where it felt more like a real building relationship. Probably also why I liked Tali's so much as all her dialogue points toward a relationship if you go that route. 

[Llandaryn]

LadyPaine wrote...

Just wanted to let people know what I thought, let them know what you think

"Wubble"

[kraidy1117]

KillaKow wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Wrong, Miri was not two then sex. It was five and only the last two conversations was when she slipped her feelings for you. I love how people say Miri is only about sex because of her sex scene but if you did her romance you would know it's not. Also ME was worse, Liara wanted to screw you right away but wanted to waittill after the battle, Ashley/Kaidan start flirting with you after Edan prime. Ya thats great build-up >_> go back to the DAO boards.

I think you have Liara and Miranda's names reversed in that post. And you may want to go back and replay ME, because that is not how the Ashley/Kaidan romance works at all.

Defending the LI of your choice up to a point is understandable, but eventually you're going to have to accept that other people have other opinions, and not everyone thinks Miranda is the best character ever.

Um for one I don't think she ist he best character ever, Legion is IMO. Second replay ME and talk to Liara. She starts flirting with you right when you get her on your ship, same as Kaidan/Ashley. Yes thats great build-up. It takes time with Miri and Jack to do get what Kaidan/Ashely and Liara did in one to two conversations.