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[kraidy1117]

Darht Jayder wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

justinnstuff wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

Morrigans romance subplot doesn't end after you sleep with her.

Well, that alone is one step above the ME relationships. After you hop in the sack, that's the end of it.

No it's not..... Casey has said your LI will play a big part in ME3. Do people even listen to interviews anymore.....

umm...yeah they say lot's of things in interviews. They also said the choices made in ME1 will greatly affect ME2.

Depends how you take that message. I took that has a couple of diffrences in conversations, how you are treated and so on. I was not disapointed. People who where disapointed thought that it was going to be huge! No, they are keeping it all for ME3.

[Sesshomaru47]

I always liked that Kaidan liked you right from the start. The only reason he would be flirting with you, or Ash would be, is because the play encouraged it.

[FlintlockJazz]

Ecael wrote...

Part of the reason may be that Dragon Age was in development since 2004, and was supposed to come out before Mass Effect 1:

http://www.1up.com/d...&cId=3155733&p=

Reading through that interview I noticed several points they made:

Behind every good hero stands his chums--and BioWare RPGs are nothing without followers. "Every character will have access to the full set of NPCs," says Greig. "They'll treat you differently depending on the origin story, and when you get them is dependent on origin story too."

but morally driven behavior is another--and Greig hints that NPCs might even go so far as refuse to fight if they feel you're way out of line.

every major area you enter has a "base camp" with activities that change depending on location,
and selecting the appropriate NPC for the location will be important.

"When you go into the city, it's probably not the best idea to bring the 9-foot-tall war golem with you," says Greig, pointing to a character modeler's monitor where a large rock creature is on display--an imposing, runecovered "dwarven war golem" named Shale. "This is one of the NPCs that joins you.... The dwarves used to make these guys for their wars, but the art of creating them has been lost. But you run into one of these guys and
he gets to join up with the party--and as the prime mover of the world, you have influence over how this guy turns out. You can explore his past and get into the details to make him a living, breathing person--as far as dwarven war golems go--or you can turn him into a blind follower who'll basically kill at your every whim." A Dragon Age analogue to Knights of the Old Republic's space-age HK-47, it seems. "You'll also be able to upgrade him--carve new dwarven runes into him to gain new powers. You'll be able to customize every one of the party members in some way."

What happened that stopped them from doing all this?  It would have been awesome.

Modifié par FlintlockJazz, 09 mars 2010 - 09:08 .

[DarthCaine]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Darht Jayder wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

No it's not..... Casey has said your LI will play a big part in ME3. Do people even listen to interviews anymore.....

umm...yeah they say lot's of things in interviews. They also said the choices made in ME1 will greatly affect ME2.

Depends how you take that message. I took that has a couple of diffrences in conversations, how you are treated and so on. I was not disapointed. People who where disapointed thought that it was going to be huge! No, they are keeping it all for ME3.

Keep telling yourself that.
Casey also said that ME1's LIs will play a big part in ME2

Modifié par DarthCaine, 09 mars 2010 - 09:05 .

[kraidy1117]

DarthCaine wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Darht Jayder wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

No it's not..... Casey has said your LI will play a big part in ME3. Do people even listen to interviews anymore.....

umm...yeah they say lot's of things in interviews. They also said the choices made in ME1 will greatly affect ME2.

Depends how you take that message. I took that has a couple of diffrences in conversations, how you are treated and so on. I was not disapointed. People who where disapointed thought that it was going to be huge! No, they are keeping it all for ME3.

Keep telling yourself that.
Casey also said that ME1's LIs will play a big part in ME2

It was thanks to Ashely/Kaidan where on Horrzine so we could battle the Collectors. Liara helped us get two squadmates. It was not BIG, but they still helped in the plot.

[kraidy1117]

Darht Jayder wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Darht Jayder wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

No it's not..... Casey has said your LI will play a big part in ME3. Do people even listen to interviews anymore.....

umm...yeah they say lot's of things in interviews. They also said the choices made in ME1 will greatly affect ME2.

Depends how you take that message. I took that has a couple of diffrences in conversations, how you are treated and so on. I was not disapointed. People who where disapointed thought that it was going to be huge! No, they are keeping it all for ME3.

Keep telling yourself that.
Casey also said that ME1's LIs will play a big part in ME2

It was thanks to Ashely/Kaidan where on Horrzine so we could battle the Collectors. Liara helped us get two squadmates. It was not BIG, but they still helped in the plot.

If your satisfied with that then good on you....but it's pretty weak.

I expected less then that and I was surprised. The thing is, it was your fault if you where disapointed with ME2 and how the choices where handled. If you acted like some of us and did not expect alot then it was ok, if you thought it was going to be huge where alkiens would try to kill you on the Citidal if you killed the Council, then thats your dam fault.

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

I dont even like DAO, yet I still think from the time I forced myself to play it that the LIs are far superior to ME2 LIs. But then I think the ME2 LIs sucked, and the romantic content was next to nothing.



I hope ME3 follows ME1s example, since the romances in that, both in terms of character and content completely blow the crappy ME2 LIs out of the water.

[Ray Joel Oh]

kraidy1117 wrote...
I expected less then that and I was surprised. The thing is, it was your fault if you where disapointed with ME2 and how the choices where handled. If you acted like some of us and did not expect alot then it was ok, if you thought it was going to be huge where alkiens would try to kill you on the Citidal if you killed the Council, then thats your dam fault.

Well I know I'll be damned disappointed if my faves from ME2 get the Liara/Kaiden/Ashley treatment in ME3.

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

I hope ME3 follows ME1s
example, since the romances in that, both in terms of character and
content completely blow the crappy ME2 LIs out of the water.

UH UH.  :takes off earings: Somebody hold my purse.

Modifié par Ray Joel Oh, 09 mars 2010 - 09:19 .

[Booglarize]

Occams Razor 17 wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

casedawgz wrote...

it's all about Viconia.

this:wub:

Agree.  Bittersweet ending though.

Definitely. The saddest, but also the best-written romance in the game (or in any Bioware game, for that matter). Incidentally, I started replaying BG2 once I got tired of ME2 (about a third of the way in so far), in large part because I wanted to relive the Viconia experience. It's kind of odd - I know it'll end badly, and yet the "happy" bits in the middle are so compelling and so exceptionally well-written that I'm almost convinced that it'll somehow turn out differently this time.

Morrigan probably comes the closest as far as DA:O is concerned (particularly if you adopted a 'good guy' approach to the relationship), and I think Jack from ME2 would've been a decent contender if the game was sufficiently long to develop the other squadmates a bit more. Neither of them were bad efforts, but Viconia is still what I measure all others again as far as video game romances are concerned. 

[kraidy1117]

Darht Jayder wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Darht Jayder wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Darht Jayder wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

No it's not..... Casey has said your LI will play a big part in ME3. Do people even listen to interviews anymore.....

umm...yeah they say lot's of things in interviews. They also said the choices made in ME1 will greatly affect ME2.

Depends how you take that message. I took that has a couple of diffrences in conversations, how you are treated and so on. I was not disapointed. People who where disapointed thought that it was going to be huge! No, they are keeping it all for ME3.

Keep telling yourself that.
Casey also said that ME1's LIs will play a big part in ME2

It was thanks to Ashely/Kaidan where on Horrzine so we could battle the Collectors. Liara helped us get two squadmates. It was not BIG, but they still helped in the plot.

If your satisfied with that then good on you....but it's pretty weak.

I expected less then that and I was surprised. The thing is, it was your fault if you where disapointed with ME2 and how the choices where handled. If you acted like some of us and did not expect alot then it was ok, if you thought it was going to be huge where alkiens would try to kill you on the Citidal if you killed the Council, then thats your dam fault.

No.  Bioware has a history of upselling the choices they give you in their games and then failing in that regard.  True I should have learned my lesson and not expected anything then I can be a fanboy/girl like you and be happy with whatever they spoon fed me.

Wow, now we go with the fanboy argument. I was not expecting alot and I got more then I thought, so I was happy. How does that make me a fanboy? Just because I like the game and you don't?

[Nozybidaj]

tehprincessJ wrote...

There's no compairing the two.

[Nozybidaj]

Darht Jayder wrote...
No.  Bioware has a history of upselling the choices they give you in their games and then failing in that regard.  True I should have learned my lesson and not expected anything then I can be a fanboy/girl like you and be happy with whatever they spoon fed me.

/shrug   My expectations were rather low coming in.  They failed to meet even those.  Rather impressive in and of itself if you think about it.

[kraidy1117]

Nozybidaj wrote...

Darht Jayder wrote...
No.  Bioware has a history of upselling the choices they give you in their games and then failing in that regard.  True I should have learned my lesson and not expected anything then I can be a fanboy/girl like you and be happy with whatever they spoon fed me.

/shrug   My expectations were rather low coming in.  They failed to meet even those.  Rather impressive in and of itself if you think about it.

Did you even read the comics? If you did then you would understand why Liara changed, because haven forbid after two years people stay the same >_> people in this place make me laugh.

[InvaderErl]

Dragon Age > Mass Effect 2 > Mass Effect 1.



All there is to it, really.

[WilliamShatner]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Darht Jayder wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Darht Jayder wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

No it's not..... Casey has said your LI will play a big part in ME3. Do people even listen to interviews anymore.....

umm...yeah they say lot's of things in interviews. They also said the choices made in ME1 will greatly affect ME2.

Depends how you take that message. I took that has a couple of diffrences in conversations, how you are treated and so on. I was not disapointed. People who where disapointed thought that it was going to be huge! No, they are keeping it all for ME3.

Keep telling yourself that.
Casey also said that ME1's LIs will play a big part in ME2

It was thanks to Ashely/Kaidan where on Horrzine so we could battle the Collectors. Liara helped us get two squadmates. It was not BIG, but they still helped in the plot.

If your satisfied with that then good on you....but it's pretty weak.

I expected less then that and I was surprised. The thing is, it was your fault if you where disapointed with ME2 and how the choices where handled. If you acted like some of us and did not expect alot then it was ok, if you thought it was going to be huge where alkiens would try to kill you on the Citidal if you killed the Council, then thats your dam fault.

Expecting a logical continuation of ME1 and your choices was too much to expect?

[DarthCaine]

Great, freakin' pyramids

[InvaderErl]

The pyramids are the final tool of the Reapers.

[Nozybidaj]

WilliamShatner wrote...

Expecting a logical continuation of ME1 and your choices was too much to expect?

Apparently the answer is yes. 

You see second chapters of trilogies are haaaarrrd,so you know, just throw out all the stuff from before and start over. :happy:

Only real story tellers like Lucas and Tolkien can do actual progression in their trilogies.  You don't actually expect BW to try and live up to that do you?

[kraidy1117]

WilliamShatner wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Darht Jayder wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Darht Jayder wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

No it's not..... Casey has said your LI will play a big part in ME3. Do people even listen to interviews anymore.....

umm...yeah they say lot's of things in interviews. They also said the choices made in ME1 will greatly affect ME2.

Depends how you take that message. I took that has a couple of diffrences in conversations, how you are treated and so on. I was not disapointed. People who where disapointed thought that it was going to be huge! No, they are keeping it all for ME3.

Keep telling yourself that.
Casey also said that ME1's LIs will play a big part in ME2

It was thanks to Ashely/Kaidan where on Horrzine so we could battle the Collectors. Liara helped us get two squadmates. It was not BIG, but they still helped in the plot.

If your satisfied with that then good on you....but it's pretty weak.

I expected less then that and I was surprised. The thing is, it was your fault if you where disapointed with ME2 and how the choices where handled. If you acted like some of us and did not expect alot then it was ok, if you thought it was going to be huge where alkiens would try to kill you on the Citidal if you killed the Council, then thats your dam fault.

Expecting a logical continuation of ME1 and your choices was too much to expect?

Thats what we got, what the hell did you guys want! The game takes place two years after the events of ME. The council changes on how that descion was handled. If Wrex survived, the Korgans are getting reformed, if you had certain characters survive, they where in ME2 and gave you a quest, inforamtion and even flirted, if you did not kill Balak you have him running around killing people, if you left the Rachni it is comfirmed that the war was caused by the reapers and they will help you out in ME3.  Like what did you guys want?

[RobbertDewulf]

The Mass Effect 2 char's for me, were more deep in comparison with the Dragon Age's, and well... When you've got a relationship going on on Dragon Age it's not that there are a lot of dialogs after then "(Kiss Her", "Bang Her"... ok "Lets go to Bed".

Modifié par RobbertDewulf, 09 mars 2010 - 09:30 .

[MarginalBeast]

DA:O had much better romance progression. Then again, it is also a much longer game.



I'll wait and see how they handle the romance in ME3 before I make any complete judgements, though. If the romantic interests in the ME series get 2 games to develop the relationship, I may change my mind.